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Apr 22, 2019 12:25:21   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I suppose we'll just have to have Russians sneaking in across the border before you take it seriously. I'm curious, why is your username jimpack123? Can you really not count to four, or was that all you could come up when you couldn't figure out how to spell penis envy?


Yawn is that the best that you can do. do you even have a penis lol

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Apr 22, 2019 12:34:18   #
Liberty Tree
 
jimpack123 wrote:
yawn border security is needed but needed to be done legally. though Congress and the courts and the POTUS signing a bill into law not by declaring f**e emergency to bypass the house and Senate now go back to preschool and learn to count to five LITTLEBOY OR LITTLE GIRL LOL


Homeland Security is under the Executive Branch and if we wait for Democrats in Congress to address the real issues it will never happen.

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Apr 22, 2019 12:55:32   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Kevyn wrote:
Our nation faces a very genuine threat, and it is being ignored as the White House feigns concern about refugee families legally requesting political asylum.


(ominous background music and scenes of starving children plastered against a huge, unclimbable WALL)

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The main thing that the Mueller report showed is that the Russian government through a multitude of mechanisms from manipulation of social media to hacking into American v**er databases interfered in the 2016 e******n


Page? Subsection? Just print it up and highlight what you're talking about.

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and that the Russians pushed for Trump to be elected over Hillary Clinton.


They really wanted Trump, did they?

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These facts are now beyond reasonable dispute.


There are people disputing them, nonetheless. A lot of folks are saying Mewler purposely left out quite a bit of things that are relevant.

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Why would the Trump organization fail to immediately contact the FBI when they were approached by the Russians offering dirt on Clinton and help with the campaign.


Why would they?

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Putin lied to Trumps face in Helsinki


So, the media lies all day every day to you and you lap it up.

Besides, Putin lies to everyone and a wise warrior knows when to fight...and for YOUR benefit in front of news cameras is NOT the place...Trump is fighting a very effective battle right this moment.

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and Trump humiliated himself by publicly acknowledging his acceptance of Putins veracity.


What did Putin say?

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Why hasn’t Trump expressed outrage for this humiliation and publicly chastised the Russian dictator?


Only a stupid person would do what you suggest. The dopey media does NOT set foreign policy, diplomacy or anything else and neither do YOU.

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The Russian attack on our government and e******n


...is nothing new. Obama didn't seem to think it was that big a deal. They screw with everyone's e******ns and as a matter of FACT, Obama did too.

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is an act of aggression verging on an act of war


Sign of for the military or join a merc group, then. War over FB ads! How stupid.

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why isn't Trump expressing outrage and doing everything in his power to punish the Russian regime?


Because it pisses you off. He's doing plenty. The propaganda media just doesn't report on it so you don't know anything.

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If nothing else, the optics of Trumps business dealings with Russians


Yeah...I heard he made a cool half mil just for speaking in Moscow while Melania was signing off on some uranium deal as Secretary of State. What a fkn crook!

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not only looks highly suspect]


Everything looks highly suspect because you listen to propaganda.

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but enriches people who are effectively enemy’s of our nation, why hasn’t Trump entirely divested from his russian investments and insisted his cabinet and staff do the same?


Because the Russians interference with our e******n is NOTHING compared with FVEY interference in our e******n and this is the real world...not some silly, posturing, idealistic thing.

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This attack on our nation is both reprehensible and incredibly destructive to our most cherished institutions and directed at the core of who we are as a people; why is Trump ignoring this very real threat to our national security and not developed an aggressive plan to stop this behavior in current and future e******ns?


You and Sici have something in common. Because you don't see what YOU think you should be seeing you're assuming nothing is being done. Quite the opposite.

Bottom line...no matter how much noise the propaganda media makes. Russian "collusion" is dead.

As to the House...bring it on chumps!

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Apr 22, 2019 12:57:30   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
jimpack123 wrote:
you won't get a answer from the hard righties here on OPP some of the central leaning ones will give a honest answer but the rest will be like Trump deflect ,deflect and pour more lies' like Mexico will pay for the wall etc.ect.ect.


Hogwash limpjack! Read on!

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Apr 22, 2019 13:02:32   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Mueller's report also showed that Obama was aware of this as early as 2014 and didn't do s**t except impose some tiny sanctions that had zero effect. I notice you left that part out.


Bravo! Thank you for pointing that out! Unfortunately, some l*****ts are so rabid that they do not wish to either see or acknowledge any wrong doing among the Progressives.

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Apr 22, 2019 13:04:14   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
jimpack123 wrote:
yawn border security is needed but needed to be done legally. though Congress and the courts and the POTUS signing a bill into law not by declaring f**e emergency to bypass the house and Senate now go back to preschool and learn to count to five LITTLEBOY OR LITTLE GIRL LOL


Yaya...same bulls**t we've heard for 40 years.

Naw...we're gonna do something about it this time and we are going to put the appeals courts in their places too. Everyone in the government is driving outside their assigned lanes and so stupid people don't know who is supposed to do what and what the limits of their authority is. It's a big mess. It didn't happen overnight and it won't get fixed right away...

The barrier is being constructed even now...

Catch and release will go away...

We're going to crush this Sanctuary City crap...

...and v**er ID will be the end result.

Thanks dudes. Not!

V**er ID is a slippery slope for reasons not pertinent to this thread.

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Apr 22, 2019 13:10:11   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
Our nation faces a very genuine threat, and it is being ignored as the White House feigns concern about refugee families legally requesting political asylum.

The main thing that the Mueller report showed is that the Russian government through a multitude of mechanisms from manipulation of social media to hacking into American v**er databases interfered in the 2016 e******n and that the Russians pushed for Trump to be elected over Hillary Clinton. These facts are now beyond reasonable dispute.

Why would the Trump organization fail to immediately contact the FBI when they were approached by the Russians offering dirt on Clinton and help with the campaign.

Putin lied to Trumps face in Helsinki and Trump humiliated himself by publicly acknowledging his acceptance of Putins veracity. Why hasn’t Trump expressed outrage for this humiliation and publicly chastised the Russian dictator?

The Russian attack on our government and e******n is an act of aggression verging on an act of war why isn't Trump expressing outrage and doing everything in his power to punish the Russian regime?

If nothing else, the optics of Trumps business dealings with Russians not only looks highly suspect but enriches people who are effectively enemy’s of our nation, why hasn’t Trump entirely divested from his russian investments and insisted his cabinet and staff do the same?

This attack on our nation is both reprehensible and incredibly destructive to our most cherished institutions and directed at the core of who we are as a people; why is Trump ignoring this very real threat to our national security and not developed an aggressive plan to stop this behavior in current and future e******ns?
Our nation faces a very genuine threat, and it is ... (show quote)
We know that neither Trump or any member of his campaign staff conspired with any Russian entity to influence the e******n.

We know now that, early in his investigation, Mueller knew there was no collusion with Russians by the Trump team yet remained silent.

We know that Russians have been trying to influence our e******ns for decades, and, since the advent of the internet and the art and science of hacking developed they have been hacking or attempting to hack into American government and corporate computers. Chinese are at it also.

We know that in early 2017 that the Steele dossier was a fabrication. And, today the NYT is walking back its claims the Steele dossier was the genuine article.

We know that President Obama's cyber response team wanted to strike back hard at Russia when they first learned of its e******n meddling in the summer of 2016, and as they began floating options on how to respond, Obama's national security adviser Susan Rice told them to stand down.

We know that Obama's White House director of cybersecurity, Michael Daniel, was particularly concerned when he learned in June that Russian actors had infiltrated critical e******n infrastructure in several US states.

We know Obama administration officials did not believe the Russians had the technological savvy to manipulate the v**e count. Rather, they were more concerned hackers could alter v**er rolls, registration files, or other processes that could sow doubt about the legitimacy of the e******n as a whole.

We know that on March 9, 2016, Department of Justice oversight personnel learned that the FBI had been employing outside contractors who had access to raw Section 702 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) data, and retained that access after their work for the FBI was completed.

We know that NSA director Mike Rogers became alarmed when he discovered FISA abuse days after the Carter Page FISA warrant was issued and he warned Trump of possible attempts to spy on his campaign, and that Trump immediately shutdown his campaign headquarters and moved it.

We know now that Mueller could have completed his investigation into Collusion within a month after it started. He could have then ended the whole thing and submitted a one page report.

We now know that the bulk of the 448 page Mueller report is a rehash of media reports and leaks.

We've known all along that President Trump is innocent of all allegations, and we know know who was actually guilty of collusion, obstruction, attempts to influence the e******n and who instigated the unprecedented assault on Trump.

We've known all along that the only crime of obstruction Trump committed was defeating Hillary Clinton.

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Apr 22, 2019 13:19:40   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Yawn is that the best that you can do. do you even have a penis lol


I can do much better, but you wouldn't understand. I am trying to keep this at your childish level.
Why are you so interested in my penis? It is a well known fact that men who are interested in other men's plumbing have serious doubts about the adequacy of their own. Coupled with your obvious lack of education, that would be a formidable obstacle to your social life. Now run along. You are irritating your betters, and that is not polite. You should probably stick to your nasal strip mining excavations, and subsequent devouring of the product. At least that should keep you quiet.

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Apr 22, 2019 13:19:56   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
We know that neither Trump or any member of his campaign staff conspired with any Russian entity to influence the e******n.

We know now that, early in his investigation, Mueller knew there was no collusion with Russians by the Trump team yet remained silent.

We know that Russians have been trying to influence our e******ns for decades, and, since the advent of the internet and the art and science of hacking developed they have been hacking or attempting to hack into American government and corporate computers. Chinese are at it also.

We know that in early 2017 that the Steele dossier was a fabrication. And, today the NYT is walking back its claims the Steele dossier was the genuine article.

We know that President Obama's cyber response team wanted to strike back hard at Russia when they first learned of its e******n meddling in the summer of 2016, and as they began floating options on how to respond, Obama's national security adviser Susan Rice told them to stand down.

We know that Obama's White House director of cybersecurity, Michael Daniel, was particularly concerned when he learned in June that Russian actors had infiltrated critical e******n infrastructure in several US states.

We know Obama administration officials did not believe the Russians had the technological savvy to manipulate the v**e count. Rather, they were more concerned hackers could alter v**er rolls, registration files, or other processes that could sow doubt about the legitimacy of the e******n as a whole.

We know that on March 9, 2016, Department of Justice oversight personnel learned that the FBI had been employing outside contractors who had access to raw Section 702 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) data, and retained that access after their work for the FBI was completed.

We know that NSA director Mike Rogers became alarmed when he discovered FISA abuse days after the Carter Page FISA warrant was issued and he warned Trump of possible attempts to spy on his campaign, and that Trump immediately shutdown his campaign headquarters and moved it.

We know now that Mueller could have completed his investigation into Collusion within a month after it started. He could have then ended the whole thing and submitted a one page report.

We now know that the bulk of the 448 page Mueller report is a rehash of media reports and leaks.

We've known all along that President Trump is innocent of all allegations, and we know know who was actually guilty of collusion, obstruction, attempts to influence the e******n and who instigated the unprecedented assault on Trump.

We've known all along that the only crime of obstruction Trump committed was defeating Hillary Clinton.
We know that neither Trump or any member of his ca... (show quote)


He didn't notice any of that. I thought the lefties were smart enough to read the damn thing. After all their let-downs one might think they'd be gun-shy about believing the propaganda media but they still just lap it up.

What else he doesn't know is a lot of us have been hearing for a year or two already the stuff he's about to learn...and even if he doesn't believe it his disbelief will not prevent the perps in this c**p attempt from facing justice.

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Apr 22, 2019 13:56:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Mueller's report also showed that Obama was aware of this as early as 2014 and didn't do s**t except impose some tiny sanctions that had zero effect. I notice you left that part out.


You see, that evidence was shared with Trump—he got security briefings—prior to the debates (remember where he said “probably a 400 pound hacker living with his Mom”?). He was briefed again after being elected. So what did Trump do? He attacked the IC. He said there was no proof. He said Putin denied it and he trusted Putin. Now remember Jennings—he said that as of 2015 and 2016, the evidence was undeniable. And yet, here was Trump denying it. So either he’s a complete i***t or a t*****r—there’s no other explanation.

And the evidence got only stronger after 2016. Microsoft, Symantec, Twitter, Facebook all went public in 2017 and 2018 that the Russians used them to interfere. Mueller named 13 GRU officers who directly interfered. Remember how the GOP talked about Seth Rich and HRC and how he (Rich) was a source of the Wikileaks documents? Well, that’s now absolutely clear that all of that was a complete, festering, repugnant lie (and anyone who participating in arguing or spreading the lie should feel ashamed for the hurt they perpetuated on the Rich family and embarrassed that they were so gullible and such a tool of the Russians).

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Apr 22, 2019 15:20:41   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
BigMike wrote:
Yaya...same bulls**t we've heard for 40 years.

Naw...we're gonna do something about it this time and we are going to put the appeals courts in their places too. Everyone in the government is driving outside their assigned lanes and so stupid people don't know who is supposed to do what and what the limits of their authority is. It's a big mess. It didn't happen overnight and it won't get fixed right away...

The barrier is being constructed even now...

Catch and release will go away...

We're going to crush this Sanctuary City crap...

...and v**er ID will be the end result.

Thanks dudes. Not!

V**er ID is a slippery slope for reasons not pertinent to this thread.
Yaya...same bulls**t we've heard for 40 years. br ... (show quote)


Yawn go back to your rubber room lol

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Apr 22, 2019 15:24:47   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I can do much better, but you wouldn't understand. I am trying to keep this at your childish level.
Why are you so interested in my penis? It is a well known fact that men who are interested in other men's plumbing have serious doubts about the adequacy of their own. Coupled with your obvious lack of education, that would be a formidable obstacle to your social life. Now run along. You are irritating your betters, and that is not polite. You should probably stick to your nasal strip mining excavations, and subsequent devouring of the product. At least that should keep you quiet.
I can do much better, but you wouldn't understand.... (show quote)


you should do what your handle is little boy which is nothing

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Apr 22, 2019 15:31:26   #
Kevyn
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Homeland Security is under the Executive Branch and if we wait for Democrats in Congress to address the real issues it will never happen.


Homeland security should be focusing on the attack on our e*******l system and the homegrown right wing white nationalist terror threat and not put all their effort into harassing poor family’s legally applying for political asylum.

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Apr 22, 2019 17:12:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Yawn go back to your rubber room lol


You should join me, Mine's inside out.

Seriously. Mewler was supposed to nail Trump...just like the loooong parade of bulls**t we've watched the nutjobs try...from Access Hollywood to the present. We're the ones who should be yawning.

I predicted an outsider would win the 2016 before anyone announced with the caveat if bothsides ran an outsider or Establishment who knows...wouldn't matter anyway.

When I knew it was Trump against the hag I predicted Trump would win.

Every time the fools trot some other trash out it ends up forgotten in a week and bigger fools conveniently forget and lap up the media's next vomit...seems like there's a bible verse about that.

I told folks here Trump was in no danger from Mewler.

Let me give you a hint...Mewler was forced to do this.

Let me give you an insight: For 2 years, prior to announcing, Trump had a very good private security firm go through his everything. What else they might of investigated I wouldn't know, but if I had Trump's money and knew who I was up against I would have had my guys do as much poking around as I thought I needed.

Question: Who do you suppose might have more concern about inexplicable dough? Trump or half the House?

Question: Why are Schiff and Pelosi (others and plenty of Republicans too) not so hot about this impeachment thing by going into Trump's finances?

Question: Why did so many incumbents not run in 2018...especially Republicans?

Question: Could any of this be related to Trump making such a big deal about his taxes? I mean...he got the media and the left all freaked out the last time it came up.

Here's another hint: I'm thinking Trump has set a little trap and he has help.

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Apr 22, 2019 17:17:43   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
You see, that evidence was shared with Trump—he got security briefings—prior to the debates (remember where he said “probably a 400 pound hacker living with his Mom”?). He was briefed again after being elected. So what did Trump do? He attacked the IC. He said there was no proof. He said Putin denied it and he trusted Putin. Now remember Jennings—he said that as of 2015 and 2016, the evidence was undeniable. And yet, here was Trump denying it. So either he’s a complete i***t or a t*****r—there’s no other explanation.

And the evidence got only stronger after 2016. Microsoft, Symantec, Twitter, Facebook all went public in 2017 and 2018 that the Russians used them to interfere. Mueller named 13 GRU officers who directly interfered. Remember how the GOP talked about Seth Rich and HRC and how he (Rich) was a source of the Wikileaks documents? Well, that’s now absolutely clear that all of that was a complete, festering, repugnant lie (and anyone who participating in arguing or spreading the lie should feel ashamed for the hurt they perpetuated on the Rich family and embarrassed that they were so gullible and such a tool of the Russians).
You see, that evidence was shared with Trump—he go... (show quote)


There's a LOT more to your little stories than what you were allowed to know. Limiting a thrall's information shapes his opinion.

It's a way to lie with bits of the t***h

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