Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

You've never met in person with anyone who is observing our border.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

👍👍👍👍Exactly, these uninvited aliens are a real crisis.

Common_Sense_Matters

Not unsubstantiated, I have met a fair group of so called m*****a men and most if not all are complete whack jobs, many of whom claim sovereign statehood, several of which also on the dole. How whacked out can one get to claim sovereign statehood while collecting social security disability?

Common_Sense_Matters

Likely not but I have met quite a few so called m*****a men and I can't honestly claim any of them were entirely sane. Most, nowhere near sane.

The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island

Yes! Unsubstantiated! You saying that you have met with people, doesn’t substantiate your claim. Do you have any photos, videos, emails, or even letters of correspondence that you could share with us in order to substantiate your claims? Otherwise, this is referred to as hearsay...

And how does receiving a disability check rob them of their statehood? If your misunderstanding was correct, then nearly half the U.S. population will have lost their statehood. Absurd.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Weekend warriors are comprised of l*****t and rights.

The guys actually touring our border are much different.

The i***t who was arrested for felon in possession of a firearm is an exception to the rule.

However if it goes to all out invasion, you'd better hope any willing and able person would protect you.

Common_Sense_Matters

Obviously you have no clue what the "sovereign state" movement is, I am guessing you don't know ANY m*****a men then as many of them nut jobs also tend to be "sovereign staters" as well. When you claim sovereign statehood, you are renouncing your U.S. citizenship and do your best to stop paying taxes and stop registering your vehicle or renewing your license. I am not sure if anyone ever succeeds at actually severing themselves from the U.S. and what will actually happen if the U.S. accepts your sovereignty but there are no shortages of nut jobs that try to server their citizenship and don't seem to realize that if they succeed, they will still be subject to our laws and taxation so long as they remain in our country.

I mis-spoke, the movement seems to call themselves "sovereign citizens", wh**ever, many so called m*****a men also claim sovereignty as well. Interestingly enough, those I met didn't seem to have anything against money but then maybe they aren't "kosher sovereign citizens". How many Jewish folk do you know that will eat a bacon cheeseburger which is a double no-no as it has bacon (made from pork) and the ground beef isn't kosher either at any restaurant that I know of. For ground beef to be "kosher" it can only be taken from the front portion of the cow, nothing from the hip back.

Anyway you look at it, of the so called m*****a men I have met, I wouldn't consider a one of them fully sane and I really don't care what you think you have to say about whether you believe I know any or not, I really don't care about your opinion at all if you truly want honesty.

I actually knew some of them BEFORE they joined and BEFORE they joined, they seemed a lot more "sane". I think it has to do with all the nut jobs in the groups that corrupt the minds of the newcomers. A good reason for me to avoid joining them as they have tried to get me to do in the past.

JoyV

Sounds like a citizen's arrest. Last I heard holding someone under a citizen's arrest isn't against the law. Not even in the progressive state on NM. In New Mexico, a citizen's arrest is defined as: The arrest of a person may be lawfully made also by any peace officer or a private person without a warrant.

But the charge of kidnapping immigrants when the article first says they stopped migrants at the border, needs some clarification. Just because someone is an immigrant, or a citizen; does not give them the right to cross the border between ports of entry. Nor would immigrants be seeking asylum. You either request to immigrate OR request asylum. And once you ARE an immigrant, would you then seek asylum from the US? If that were so, wouldn't they seek asylum of a different country if they feared their lives were endangered by the US? Later the article said "migrant" So which are they? Immigrants or migrants? But if the article means NOT an immigrant, but an i*****l a***n, then holding them at gunpoint while calling for CBP will earn you a big thank you from CBP.

AS for their having illegal guns and illegal ammo, NM is an open carry state. Only permits are needed for conceal carry. Nor must ammo be registered as in DC where each round must be registered. So unless the guns were machine guns without a permit, or the citizens were felons; why were the guns said to be illegal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Mexico

Funny thing is when an Islamic group had a compound with kidnapped children being trained for suicide missions, where at least one kidnapped child's body was found and the living kids showed signs of physical abuse and malnourishment, NM judge gave them a slap on the wrist. Nor were they listed as terrorists in the media. But holding i*****l a***ns at gunpoint while waiting the arrival of CBP is called terrorism.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/16/639419898/toddlers-remains-that-were-discovered-in-n-m-compound-identified-as-missing-chil

JoyV

Get the guns out of the hands of law abiding active American citizens while ignoring the Obama armed to the teeth cartel members crossing our border regularly. Sounds about what I'd expect of the left.

Carol Kelly

I love your manner of taking apart posts that have no real meaning. I almost said “stupid” but that’s worse than cursing.

JoyV

So how do you arm yourselves as a mob vs arm yourselves as a group of US citizens? And what about a group of armed citizens is illegal?

JoyV

Every citizen has arrest powers!!!! It called a CITIZEN'S ARREST!

JoyV

It is a felony to cross the border illegally!

JoyV

It use to be a misdemeanor in the Obama years. That was changed to a felony. And even before the change, anyone who had previously been deported and came back was committing a felony even in the Obama years.

JoyV

They weren't immigrants. Immigrants go through procedures and enter at a port of entry! Crossing between ports of entry is a felony.