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Apr 21, 2019 10:36:43   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Come on down to Texas and join the fun ......................Goober


God bless 'em...

Happy Easter Wolf...

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Apr 21, 2019 10:58:16   #
Kevyn
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
You’re really outdoing yourself today, you don’t usually expose your ignorance so profoundly...

Nobody is putting anyone in prison, and they’re not arresting anyone. You should probably take the rest of the day off...

Btw... detaining these illegal border jumpers is completely within their right.

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/citizen-s-arrest.html


Since none of the people kidnaped and detained were either witnessed committing a felony or in the process of committing a felony there was no reason for a citizens arrest and it remains an actual felony for those who did so. Give it a bit of time and you will see some of these jokers locked up. If not by the feds by New Mexico law enforcement.

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Apr 21, 2019 11:07:10   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
Since none of the people kidnaped and detained were either witnessed committing a felony or in the process of committing a felony there was no reason for a citizens arrest and it remains an actual felony for those who did so. Give it a bit of time and you will see some of these jokers locked up. If not by the feds by New Mexico law enforcement.



You will totally support anything that undermines U.S. Sovereignty, are you a wetback?

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Apr 21, 2019 11:10:11   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
Since none of the people kidnaped and detained were either witnessed committing a felony or in the process of committing a felony there was no reason for a citizens arrest and it remains an actual felony for those who did so. Give it a bit of time and you will see some of these jokers locked up. If not by the feds by New Mexico law enforcement.


You obviously didn’t read the link I provided for you. I suggest you do. It also references misdemeanors, which crossing our border illegally is, but to reiterate, nobody is being “arrested”. And a “breach of the peace” could easily be articulated.

These brave citizens are knowledgeable in state and federal law. They are aware of where the line is not to be crossed. They’ll continue doing what they’re doing, and none will be locked up for doing so, your wishful thinking aside.

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Apr 21, 2019 12:42:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Come on down to Texas and join the fun ......................Goober


You da man, Wolf. You don't pull any punches with these Goobers. You can bet top dollar that when you see the word Kevyn on a thread title or post, you will find the post dripping with Goobers and all other kinds of slimy s**t.

Wish I could join you down there.

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Apr 21, 2019 14:28:52   #
Rose42
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
You’re really outdoing yourself today, you don’t usually expose your ignorance so profoundly...

Nobody is putting anyone in prison, and they’re not arresting anyone. You should probably take the rest of the day off...

Btw... detaining these illegal border jumpers is completely within their right.

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/citizen-s-arrest.html


What's scary is there are a lot of people out there like Kevyn on the right and the left and they v**e.

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Apr 21, 2019 15:28:44   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
You obviously didn’t read the link I provided for you. I suggest you do. It also references misdemeanors, which crossing our border illegally is, but to reiterate, nobody is being “arrested”. And a “breach of the peace” could easily be articulated.

These brave citizens are knowledgeable in state and federal law. They are aware of where the line is not to be crossed. They’ll continue doing what they’re doing, and none will be locked up for doing so, your wishful thinking aside.


https://criminal.findlaw.com wrote:
In general, people can't use a citizen's arrest for misdemeanors unless the misdemeanor involves a breach of the peace. Even in these circumstances, however, individuals can only make arrests when they've personally witnessed the criminal behavior and the breach has just occurred or there's a strong likelihood that the breach will continue.


Source: https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/citizen-s-arrest.html

Which means they must have been "breaching the peace" and for that to be the case we refer to https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/disturbing-the-peace.html which states:

https://criminal.findlaw.com wrote:
What Constitutes Disturbing the Peace?

Laws exist that make it a crime to create a public disruption or commotion. These laws vary from state to state, but they typically prohibit:

Fighting or challenging someone to fight in a public place;
Using offensive words in a public place likely to incite violence;
Shouting in a public place intending to incite violence or unlawful activity;
Bullying a student on or near school grounds;
Knocking loudly on hotel doors of sleeping guests with the purpose of annoying them;
Holding an unlawful public assembly;
Shouting profanities out of a car window in front of a person's home over an extended period of time;
Allowing excessive dog barking in a residential area; and
Intentionally playing loud music during the night that continues, even after a fair warning.
In most states, the person's conduct must have been on purpose (willful) or with bad intent (malicious). It is not enough that a person engaged in conduct that merely annoyed, harassed, or embarrassed someone else. If fighting was involved, it must have been unlawful, and not in self-defense or the defense of others.

To determine guilt, courts look at the particular circumstances of each case. Some of the factors a judge may consider include the location, time, place, words, actions, and the person spoken to or touched (for example, a police officer, teacher, student, relative or passerby).

Common actions that do not constitute disturbing the peace can include:

Engaging in horseplay;
Simply embarrassing someone;
Merely annoying someone;
Accidentally bumping into someone; and
Giving someone a gesture such as the middle finger.
What Constitutes Disturbing the Peace? br br Laws... (show quote)


Now of course you have direct knowledge that these immigrants were doing such I presume...

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Apr 22, 2019 06:06:31   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Kevyn wrote:
No one has the right to arm themselves as a mob and confront others. This go’s from the Crips and MS13 to this band of vigilante scumbags. All of them are nothing but cowardly thugs terrorizing people in a false effort to “protect” territory to which they lay no legitimate claim. Write all the checks you want, they will need to line the pockets of some world class douchbag lawyers to get them out of this, you might as well pay the freight.

You definitely need a check up from the neck up.

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Apr 22, 2019 06:30:42   #
wolffy
 
Kevyn wrote:
Scumbag r****t vigilantes, the more prosecutions the better to get weapons out of the hands of these nuts and put them behind bars.


You are a nut job, why they don't Lock you up I will never figure out!!

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Apr 22, 2019 06:32:07   #
wolffy
 
Texas T***h wrote:
You definitely need a check up from the neck up.


It won't find any thing. He is dead from the neck up!!!

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Apr 22, 2019 08:06:28   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Now of course you have direct knowledge that these immigrants were doing such I presume...

Good morning, CSM.

Direct knowledge would imply that I was physically present and somehow involved in the situation, either as an illegal border jumper or a member of the m*****a. To that, the answer is no. However, when the story broke concerning the m*****a member being arrested, in the news video shown in connection with the story you could see m*****a members out numbered by at least 3 to 1. With the illegal border jumpers at first stopping after being confronted, then becoming more aggressive once they realized they outnumbered the m*****a, shouting and advancing on them, proceeding into our country illegally.

As for the misdemeanors that could easily be articulated:

Fighting or challenging someone to fight in a public place. ✔️
Self explanatory via the video of the incident.

Using offensive words in a public place likely to incite violence. ✔️
Again, self explanatory via the video. My Spanish is a little rusty, but I could make out a few profanities coupled with derogatory terms.

Shouting in a public place intending to incite violence or unlawful activity. ✔️
Again, self explanatory. Along with the unlawful activity having already occurred via crossing the border illegally.

Holding an unlawful public assembly. ✔️

Trespassing as a group into a foreign country constitutes unlawful public assembly.

We already know if the shoe was on the other foot, US citizens crossing into Mexico (a felony I believe) would be immediately thrown in a Mexican prison.

The almost funny part in all of this is, the media, people like Kevyn, and the N.M. ACLU automatically demonize US citizens protecting their property and country, while totally ignoring the actual criminal activity by illegal border jumpers.

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Apr 22, 2019 08:30:19   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Rose42 wrote:
What's scary is there are a lot of people out there like Kevyn on the right and the left and they v**e.


That is a scary thought indeed, Rose. Though on the plus side, they’ve been on the losing end for the most part since at least 2010.

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Apr 22, 2019 08:44:58   #
Radiance3
 
Kevyn wrote:
A number of right wing nationalist terrorists were illegally holding people at gunpoint in New Mexico. The FBI has so far only made one arrest but more are soon to come. Obviously Trumps justice department will try to soft peddle this but the men playing soldier will be held accountable in New Mexico if the Feds drop the ball.

From this mornings Guardian:

A member of an armed rightwing m*****a group accused of illegally detaining migrants at the US-Mexico border has been arrested, officials said on Saturday.

Videos appear to show armed m*****a detaining migrants at US-Mexico border

The FBI arrested Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, for alleged unlawful possession of firearms and ammunition , days after his group posted videos that appeared to show armed men stopping migrants at the border in New Mexico, ordering them to sit on the ground and coordinating with US border patrol agents to have them taken into custody.

“Today’s arrest by the FBI indicates clearly that the rule of law should be in the hands of trained law enforcement officials, not armed vigilantes,” the New Mexico attorney general, Hector Balderas, said in a statement.

On Thursday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) called for an investigation into the pro-Trump, anti-immigrant men who have been patrolling the border and calling themselves the United Constitutional Patriots (UCP).

The ACLU in New Mexico described the group as “an armed f*****t m*****a organization” made up of “vigilantes”, saying they were working to “kidnap and detain people seeking asylum” and had directly made illegal arrests and kidnappings and held people at gunpoint.
A number of right wing nationalist terrorists were... (show quote)


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The troops at the border could not cover all wide areas patrolled by our military. There are VOLUNTEER M*****AS helping the troops to preventing terrorists and i*****l a***ns entering into our country. They are heroes, putting up their lives defending our country from those millions of i*****l a***ns many of the are drug dealers, terrorists, convicts, and rapist.

Kevyn and all the RADICAL DEMS want open borders so that they could increase these terrorist allies to take over the power. Kevyn prefers that our fellow Americans die, rather than protecting our border.

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Apr 22, 2019 09:19:59   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
wolffy wrote:
You are a nut job, why they don't Lock you up I will never figure out!!


Kevin doesn't deserve to live in the United States.

He has all out evil intent against us.

He has no love for anything actually.

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Apr 22, 2019 09:30:58   #
Carol Kelly
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Of course that’s their description, they are an anti-American organization that has enough troubles of their own to worry about. You won’t hear another thing about this unless someone gets hurt or k**led, which would more than likely be a US citizen, then we won’t hear from you or the ACLU, because it wouldn’t fit your narrative.

Funny how you don’t post anything about Mexican nationals “kidnapping” at gun point, US military, on US soil. You’re so t***sparent.

May the Lord keep these brave citizens and their families safe as they continue with this righteous endeavor, Amen.
Of course that’s their description, they are an an... (show quote)


Amen and amen.

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