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Apr 27, 2019 23:59:20   #
eden
 
son of witless wrote:
You have stung me to the quick. I was merely exercising brevity. Please allow me to explain my remark, if it pleases you ? You said : " Generalizations are either provable or impressionistic but Obama stuck to established norms of adult behavior as President. He seemed to have a sense of humor where Trump comes across as peevishly defensive and retaliatory in a childish and petty way. Obama’s popularity was, and is obvious whereas Trump is tanking right now. Considering his handicap Obama was a credible President whereas Trump is widely considered worse than Nixon. "

Peevish is an interesting word. I like to be very precise in my discussions so I presumed that it would be good to get a definition of the word before preceding further, so with out further ado.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peevish

" showing annoyance, irritation, or bad mood: "

Correct me if I am wrong, but you are actually saying with a straight face that President Obama, when dealing with Republicans, his sworn political enemies, was always fair, civil, and respectful ? As compared to that Ogre Donald Trump who always has a chip on his shoulder, and wants to knock the teeth out of the next Democrat he sees.

So now lets us look at President Barak Hussein Obama in those first two years. You need to remember the political conditions of the time. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi ruled the political universe. They had the White House and large majorities in both Houses. Their allies in the press openly predicted the death of the Republican Party. That is how bad things were for the lowly GOP. They did not get no respect.

So how did President Obama decide to treat Republicans ? In 2010 he said "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

Now to me, that pretty much meets the definition of peevishness, but come on when you are on top of the World it is hard not to get a little peevish and arrogant towards your weak and h**ed enemies. When your enemies get stronger you will compromise and show them more respect in order to get things done for the good of America, right ? I mean as much as I disliked Bill Clinton, he showed political sk**l in working with Gingrich as the GOP became stronger, and America benefited from that partnership.

So did Obama show non peevishness as the Republicans gained strength, as Bill Clinton was able to do ? Hell No !!!!!!!! But you do not have to take my biased word for it. Here is what the Chicago Tribune said about the peevish President in 2014. I rest my case.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-obama-immigration-republicans-0703-20140703-story.html

I pray that you will find this rebuttal less weak than my first pathetic attempt.
You have stung me to the quick. I was merely exerc... (show quote)



You seem stuck on the word “peevish”.
I said “peevishly defensive”. You know, like you are being now...

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Apr 28, 2019 00:14:13   #
eden
 
padremike wrote:
A school teacher huh? That explains a lot about your own environmentally conditioned lopsided blindness and ignorance. Did your union also provide you classes in women assertiveness?

You believe you're qualified to psycho-babble analyze Trump? Then how would you analyze a man whose mother was a hooker and had pornographic photos taken of her. A man whose mother, father, and grandparents were c*******t as well as his mentor after his father, who was never legally married to his mother, abandoned him. A young black man who said he did not trust his white mother's race. A man who was thoroughly engaged in the drug culture to the degree that sometimes in secondary school he didn't know where he was. A man who continued his drug use in college and admitted he associated closely with C*******ts. These things he admitted in his books. I left out the sexual rumors yet, by the way he pushed homosexual marriage and used our military as a personal test tube for promoting a******l sexual practices, one could legitimately question his chosen "lifestyle."
A school teacher huh? That explains a lot about yo... (show quote)


I was a teacher for a little less than 2 years about 35 years ago. I was not conditioned by the “environment” and I did not belong to a Union since I was relieving.
Where is the psycho babble? Most educated people would know of what I described based on observation of his public persona and behavior. If these words are too big for you I can adjust so you can better understand.
I would not analyze Trump or anybody else because I am not qualified to make psychiatric evaluations and quite clearly from your exaggerated angry nonsense about Obama, neither are you.

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Apr 28, 2019 01:26:57   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
[quote=eden]
AHO-C wrote:
First neither padremike nor son of witless even remotely resemble Alt-Right ( ie w***e s*********t)


Alt-Right:
“an ideological grouping associated with extreme conservative or reactionary viewpoints, characterized by a rejection of mainstream politics and by the use of online media to disseminate deliberately controversial content.”


Stand up straight, lock your heels together, shut up and pay close attention because you're "fixin" to learn something unless I'm discharging into a non-conductor.

When I was born, prior to WWII, and all thru the years I was a young person and then began a military career, the home I was raised in and taught morals, values, spirituality, the responsibility of a good citizen, etc, were the same as we're taught in our neighbor's homes, our church, our schools, our community, our state and the entire nation. Someone like you are today would have been ostracized and thought of as a nut. That you're accepted in today's society does not make you any less of a nut! The simple fact is that I have not moved one inch from how I was raised in that once very solid America, yet someone as big a fruitcake and obnoxious as yourself, sticks their head up through the sludge and says that I'm alt-right! Better reevaluate your own location on your sliding scale of insanity. You're certainly not "mainstream politics" you're either one of two choices; a consciously immoral Marxist Progressive or a unconsciously amoral Marxist Progressive. You're one or another.

You may now stand at ease. You would do well to consider to remain silent, but you being a Marxist Progressive female, I presume thoroughly indoctrinated in those popular Female Assertive Courses, I have, unquestionably, ask you to do something impossible. Has anyone ever told you the story about the big mouth frog?

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Apr 28, 2019 04:16:12   #
eden
 
padremike wrote:
Stand up straight, lock your heels together, shut up and pay close attention because you're "fixin" to learn something unless I'm discharging into a non-conductor.

When I was born, prior to WWII, and all thru the years I was a young person and then began a military career, the home I was raised in and taught morals, values, spirituality, the responsibility of a good citizen, etc, were the same as we're taught in our neighbor's homes, our church, our schools, our community, our state and the entire nation. Someone like you are today would have been ostracized and thought of as a nut. That you're accepted in today's society does not make you any less of a nut! The simple fact is that I have not moved one inch from how I was raised in that once very solid America, yet someone as big a fruitcake and obnoxious as yourself, sticks their head up through the sludge and says that I'm alt-right! Better reevaluate your own location on your sliding scale of insanity. You're certainly not "mainstream politics" you're either one of two choices; a consciously immoral Marxist Progressive or a unconsciously amoral Marxist Progressive. You're one or another.

You may now stand at ease. You would do well to consider to remain silent, but you being a Marxist Progressive female, I presume thoroughly indoctrinated in those popular Female Assertive Courses, I have, unquestionably, ask you to do something impossible. Has anyone ever told you the story about the big mouth frog?
Stand up straight, lock your heels together, shut ... (show quote)


I’m just really impressed that you would go to such trouble and concentrated effort to bait, trash talk and shut someone down like this. Don’t you have a family to be with, a wife perhaps, grandchildren, who would like some love and kindness from you instead of this horrible judgemental h**efest you regularly indulge in?

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Apr 28, 2019 08:30:53   #
AHO-C
 
[quote=eden]
AHO-C wrote:
First neither padremike nor son of witless even remotely resemble Alt-Right ( ie w***e s*********t)


Alt-Right:
“an ideological grouping associated with extreme conservative or reactionary viewpoints, characterized by a rejection of mainstream politics and by the use of online media to disseminate deliberately controversial content.”



alt-right or alt right[ awlt-rahyt ]:ORIGIN OF ALT-RIGHT
Coined in 2010 by Richard Spencer; shortening of alt(ernative) + right (in the sense “political conservatives”)...... by the way Spencer is a W***e S*********t and r****t and he was referring to himself and other like minded people
noun
a political movement originating on social media and online forums, composed of a segment of conservatives who support extreme right-wing ideologies, including white nationalism and anti-Semitism (often used attributively):

You are obviously an intelligent person Eden ....."A people without a history is like the wind over buffalo grass. – Sioux" OR as the Alt-Left says " A people without a history is like the wind out of a buffalo's a$$"-AHO-C

But, Like!! What do I know...I have a BS degree in Economics and Foreign Relations plus a BS degree from Trump University ( I learned that one from somebody on this site!!)

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Apr 28, 2019 11:04:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
eden wrote:
I’m just really impressed that you would go to such trouble and concentrated effort to bait, trash talk and shut someone down like this. Don’t you have a family to be with, a wife perhaps, grandchildren, who would like some love and kindness from you instead of this horrible judgemental h**efest you regularly indulge in?


Of course I have a wonderful wife of 56 years, a son, a daughter and four grandchildren all of whom would tell you that my true nature is one of kindness, joyful and very loving. You are a perfect example of the person who can dish it out in spades but are crushed when you have to receive it back. You judged me and are offended when I returned the same and then you cried that I am judgmental. Well, you're absolutely right, I am judgmental but only because I know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil and you, being a Progressive, are confused. My wife, our children and grandchildren are also judgmental because they, too, know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. They were raised and taught to know the differences. What none of us are prepared to do is be judges of your final end, that's between you and God. However, since atheists are drawn to become progressives, you may have already abrogated your right to actively participate with God in your final judgment. I don't h**e you but I h**e the evil that you represent and I believe that we must resist evil and I don't care if my resistance offends you. What you represent offends every goodness I have served my entire life. Alt-right? You say I'm alt-right. No! Just one old fashioned American who continues to believe in the Traditional American morals, values and spirituality he was raised with and who will resists the soul k*****g philosophy and agenda of you Progressives. Now tell me the t***h. Did you learn anything constructive thru our dialogue?

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Apr 28, 2019 11:50:27   #
son of witless
 
eden wrote:
You seem stuck on the word “peevish”.
I said “peevishly defensive”. You know, like you are being now...


" The weakest of weak rebuttals. "


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Apr 28, 2019 12:12:41   #
AHO-C
 
padremike wrote:
Of course I have a wonderful wife of 56 years, a son, a daughter and four grandchildren all of whom would tell you that my true nature is one of kindness, joyful and very loving. You are a perfect example of the person who can dish it out in spades but are crushed when you have to receive it back. You judged me and are offended when I returned the same and then you cried that I am judgmental. Well, you're absolutely right, I am judgmental but only because I know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil and you, being a Progressive, are confused. My wife, our children and grandchildren are also judgmental because they, too, know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. They were raised and taught to know the differences. What none of us are prepared to do is be judges of your final end, that's between you and God. However, since atheists are drawn to become progressives, you may have already abrogated your right to actively participate with God in your final judgment. I don't h**e you but I h**e the evil that you represent and I believe that we must resist evil and I don't care if my resistance offends you. What you represent offends every goodness I have served my entire life. Alt-right? You say I'm alt-right. No! Just one old fashioned American who continues to believe in the Traditional American morals, values and spirituality he was raised with and who will resists the soul k*****g philosophy and agenda of you Progressives. Now tell me the t***h. Did you learn anything constructive thru our dialogue?
Of course I have a wonderful wife of 56 years, a s... (show quote)


padremike.....No way you are Alt-Right...the left just throws phrases around as if anybody right of Karl Marx is "Alt-Right"....in actuality Alt-Right was a phrase coined by Richard Spencer in 2010 to describe what to call his Neo-N**i . Anti-Semitism,W***e S*********t leanings...to the Left if you 'ain't one of them'.....you obviously must be Alt-Right ....and if you are Conservative then you must be 'Hitleresque!!' ...I actually think that because they are fanatically anti-American.....they believe that the Right must all be anti-American to the other extreme....to be blunt they just don't get that the way you described yourself is just 'John Q. Public' !!
You and your family sound like fine people living a good life trying to stay happy and preserve the USA ,while you are simultaneously and justifiably doing what you can to help stop the shredding of the Constitution and our History ( both the Good and the scars !!) ...as they say knowing your History is what helps you to make your Country better. Wish I could say the same with Socialists they are stuck in some romanticized fantasy of 'If at first, and second,and third, etc. ad infinatum you don't succeed try, try,try. ....etc. ad infinatum again !!
Have a great Sunday !!

As for me !!! I'm going to back to my room and pass a law....sign it !! Pass a law....sign it!! etc. ad infinatum !! I like doing that almost as much as running around a cow pasture with a bag of corks!!!

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Apr 28, 2019 12:17:32   #
eden
 
AHO-C wrote:
alt-right or alt right[ awlt-rahyt ]:ORIGIN OF ALT-RIGHT
Coined in 2010 by Richard Spencer; shortening of alt(ernative) + right (in the sense “political conservatives”)...... by the way Spencer is a W***e S*********t and r****t and he was referring to himself and other like minded people
noun
a political movement originating on social media and online forums, composed of a segment of conservatives who support extreme right-wing ideologies, including white nationalism and anti-Semitism (often used attributively):

You are obviously an intelligent person Eden ....."A people without a history is like the wind over buffalo grass. – Sioux" OR as the Alt-Left says " A people without a history is like the wind out of a buffalo's a$$"-AHO-C

But, Like!! What do I know...I have a BS degree in Economics and Foreign Relations plus a BS degree from Trump University ( I learned that one from somebody on this site!!)
alt-right or alt right awlt-rahyt :ORIGIN OF ALT... (show quote)



I see you are trying to create a distinction. That’s good. Perhaps now you can consider that not liking the current President does not automatically classify one as a c****e pinko f*g Muslim lover or other various h**e driven pejoratives you see posted here.

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Apr 28, 2019 12:37:25   #
eden
 
padremike wrote:
Of course I have a wonderful wife of 56 years, a son, a daughter and four grandchildren all of whom would tell you that my true nature is one of kindness, joyful and very loving. You are a perfect example of the person who can dish it out in spades but are crushed when you have to receive it back. You judged me and are offended when I returned the same and then you cried that I am judgmental. Well, you're absolutely right, I am judgmental but only because I know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil and you, being a Progressive, are confused. My wife, our children and grandchildren are also judgmental because they, too, know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. They were raised and taught to know the differences. What none of us are prepared to do is be judges of your final end, that's between you and God. However, since atheists are drawn to become progressives, you may have already abrogated your right to actively participate with God in your final judgment. I don't h**e you but I h**e the evil that you represent and I believe that we must resist evil and I don't care if my resistance offends you. What you represent offends every goodness I have served my entire life. Alt-right? You say I'm alt-right. No! Just one old fashioned American who continues to believe in the Traditional American morals, values and spirituality he was raised with and who will resists the soul k*****g philosophy and agenda of you Progressives. Now tell me the t***h. Did you learn anything constructive thru our dialogue?
Of course I have a wonderful wife of 56 years, a s... (show quote)




Yes I have learned that you are a holier-than-thou, bible bashing, intolerant, rigid misogynist with power and control issues.
But redemption is (apparently) available to all...
Have a nice Sunday 😘

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Apr 28, 2019 12:42:36   #
AHO-C
 
eden wrote:
I see you are trying to create a distinction. That’s good. Perhaps now you can consider that not liking the current President does not automatically classify one as a c****e pinko f*g Muslim lover or other various h**e driven pejoratives you see posted here.


Eden....I wish I knew you better ....based on the posts I have read all I can say is that you and I don't agree on a lot of things. Also, not liking the current President is one thing....but not admitting to his accomplishments by arguing about his past or personality ....well that definitely does not scream of being unbiased either.
I will readily admit that I did not like Obama and as a result of that I may have misjudged his administration....things like DACA ( EO making a new law ); ACA ( supposed affordable healthcare that had high premiums and high deductibles....that only became 'Constitutional ' by the Black Robes saying in one case it wasn't written as a tax BUT that is what Congress meant ; In the other case well they wrote that the State must have an Exchange....but they didn't mean what they wrote ); etc.....BUT!! If you think there were some Major accomplishments I'm just blind to ...give it a whirl !!

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Apr 28, 2019 13:14:48   #
AHO-C
 
eden wrote:
I see you are trying to create a distinction. That’s good. Perhaps now you can consider that not liking the current President does not automatically classify one as a c****e pinko f*g Muslim lover or other various h**e driven pejoratives you see posted here.


Please remember Eden...it was not me trying to create a distinction.....it was Richard Spencer trying to create a distinction between him ( and his followers) and the 'Disalt-Rite !'
Whopee!! I made up a new phrase... you and me ( which should actually be you and I or I and you...without the 'you' part.... or me and you ( to be hypercorrective and wrong ...blah! blah! blah!) will be famous someday when you read:
Disalt-Rite- A totally bogus misspelled phrase that was coined PRIMARILY by eden over AHO-C 's ( not to be confused with Richard Spencer or herself) objections in their post of April 28 ,2019 to describe somebody who isn't Alt-Right , but also isn't Alt-Left or a 'C****e Pinko F*g Muslim Lover', nor are they a hyper-Conservative crazy person/thing, but they actually don't know what classification they are but they claim to be 'normal'....which leads us to another problem to paraphrase Bill Clinton ' I didn't have sex with that normal person [ middle finger wagging] ....OOOOPs! Wrong paraphrase.'It depends on what your definition of normal ..normal [is???] !! Pop the cork the Champagne is getting warm !!

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Apr 28, 2019 13:50:12   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
AHO-C wrote:
padremike.....No way you are Alt-Right...the left just throws phrases around as if anybody right of Karl Marx is "Alt-Right"....in actuality Alt-Right was a phrase coined by Richard Spencer in 2010 to describe what to call his Neo-N**i . Anti-Semitism,W***e S*********t leanings...to the Left if you 'ain't one of them'.....you obviously must be Alt-Right ....and if you are Conservative then you must be 'Hitleresque!!' ...I actually think that because they are fanatically anti-American.....they believe that the Right must all be anti-American to the other extreme....to be blunt they just don't get that the way you described yourself is just 'John Q. Public' !!
You and your family sound like fine people living a good life trying to stay happy and preserve the USA ,while you are simultaneously and justifiably doing what you can to help stop the shredding of the Constitution and our History ( both the Good and the scars !!) ...as they say knowing your History is what helps you to make your Country better. Wish I could say the same with Socialists they are stuck in some romanticized fantasy of 'If at first, and second,and third, etc. ad infinatum you don't succeed try, try,try. ....etc. ad infinatum again !!
Have a great Sunday !!

As for me !!! I'm going to back to my room and pass a law....sign it !! Pass a law....sign it!! etc. ad infinatum !! I like doing that almost as much as running around a cow pasture with a bag of corks!!!
padremike.....No way you are Alt-Right...the left ... (show quote)


Thank you.

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Apr 28, 2019 14:29:01   #
eden
 
AHO-C wrote:
Please remember Eden...it was not me trying to create a distinction.....it was Richard Spencer trying to create a distinction between him ( and his followers) and the 'Disalt-Rite !'
Whopee!! I made up a new phrase... you and me ( which should actually be you and I or I and you...without the 'you' part.... or me and you ( to be hypercorrective and wrong ...blah! blah! blah!) will be famous someday when you read:
Disalt-Rite- A totally bogus misspelled phrase that was coined PRIMARILY by eden over AHO-C 's ( not to be confused with Richard Spencer or herself) objections in their post of April 28 ,2019 to describe somebody who isn't Alt-Right , but also isn't Alt-Left or a 'C****e Pinko F*g Muslim Lover', nor are they a hyper-Conservative crazy person/thing, but they actually don't know what classification they are but they claim to be 'normal'....which leads us to another problem to paraphrase Bill Clinton ' I didn't have sex with that normal person [ middle finger wagging] ....OOOOPs! Wrong paraphrase.'It depends on what your definition of normal ..normal [is???] !! Pop the cork the Champagne is getting warm !!
Please remember Eden...it was not me trying to cre... (show quote)


You are babbling. Can you get to the point?

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Apr 28, 2019 14:45:14   #
AHO-C
 
eden wrote:
You are babbling. Can you get to the point?


What am I overlooking about Obama's accomplishments ???

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