What does the Bible say about Reincarnation?
Apr 20, 2019 06:57:56 #
Reincarnation is the belief in the birth and rebirth of a person's soul over and over again into different human bodies throughout history. It is the position that after biological death, the spirit of the person either goes to a place and waits for an incarnation into another body, or immediately is reincarnated as another person.
What does the Bible say about Reincarnation?
The Bible teaches there is no such thing as reincarnation. It shows that man is the special creation of God, created in God’s image with both a material body and an immaterial soul and spirit. He is presented as distinct and unique from all other creatures—angels and the animal kingdom alike.
The Bible teaches that at death, while man’s body is mortal, decays and returns to dust, his soul and spirit continues on; either to a place of torments for those who reject Christ, or to paradise (heaven) in God’s presence for those who have trusted in Jesus Christ as their Savior. Both categories of people will be resurrected, one to eternal judgment and the other to eternal life with a glorified body (John 5:25-29).
The emphatic statement of the Bible, is that “it is appointed unto men once to die and after that the judgment” (Hebrew 9:27). This statement and the Biblical teaching that mankind’s creation in God’s image is unique from the animals and even angels, stands in total opposition to any idea of reincarnation: dying and coming back as another person, or transmigration: in the form of an animal or insect.
The claims of some who believe they have had a past history in other bodies is a deceitful lie they have believed, from an encounter with demonic spiritual powers (fallen angels, present on earth throughout history, since being kicked out of heaven).
Information below from "A Handbook of Christian Apologetics," by Peter Kreeft and Ronald Tacelli. (InterVarsity Press, Downers Grove).
Six Basic Theories:
The human race has come up with six basic theories about what happens to us when we die.
1. Materialism: Nothing survives. Death ends all of me. Seldom held before the eighteenth century, materialism is now a strong minority view in industrialized nations. It is the natural accompaniment of atheism.
2. Paganism: A vague, shadowy semiself or ghost survives and goes to the place of the dead, the dark, gloomy Underworld. This is the standard pagan belief. Traces of it can be found even in the Old Testament Jewish notion of sheol. The “ghost” that survives is less alive, less substantial, less real than the flesh and blood organism now living. It is something like a “ghost image” on a TV set: a pale copy of the lost original.
3. Reincarnation: The individual soul survives and is reincarnated into another body. Reincarnation is usually connected with the next belief, pantheism, by the notion of karma: that after the soul has fulfilled its destiny, and learned its lessons and become sufficiently enlightened, it reverts to a divine status or is absorbed into (or realizes its timeless identity with) the divine All.
4. Pantheism: Death changes nothing, for what survives death is the same as what was real before death: only the one, changeless, eternal, perfect, spiritual, divine, all-inclusive Reality, sometimes called by a name (“Brahman”) and sometimes not (as in Buddhism). In this view—that of Eastern mysticism—all separateness, including time, is an illusion. Therefore, in this view, the very question of what happens after death is mistaken. The question is not solved but dissolved.
5. Immortality: The individual soul survives death, but not the body. This soul eventually reaches its eternal destiny of heaven or hell, perhaps through intermediate stages, perhaps through reincarnation. But what survives is an individual, bodyless spirit. This is Platonism, often confused with Christianity.
6. Resurrection: At death, the soul separates from the body and is reunited at the end of the world to its new, immortal, resurrected body by a divine miracle. This is the Christian view. This view, the supernatural resurrection of the body rather than the natural immortality of the soul alone, is the only version of life after death in Scripture. It is dimly prophesied and hoped for in the Old Testament, but clearly revealed in the Christian New Testament.
Christianity rejects reincarnation for ten reasons.
1. It is contradicted by Scripture (Heb 9:27).
2. It is contradicted by orthodox tradition in all churches.
3. It would reduce the Incarnation (referring to Christ’s incarnation) to a mere appearance, the crucifixion to an accident, and Christ to just one among many philosophers or avatars. It would also confuse what Christ did with what creatures claim to do: incarnation with reincarnation.
4. It implies that God made a mistake in designing our souls to live in bodies, that we are really pure spirits in prison or angels in costume.
5. It is contradicted by psychology and common sense, for its view of souls as imprisoned in alien bodies denies the natural psychosomatic unity.
6. It entails a very low view of the body, as a prison, a punishment.
7. It usually blames sin on the body and the body’s power to confuse and darken the mind. This is passing the buck from soul to body, as well as from will to mind, and a confusion of sin with ignorance.
8. The idea that we are reincarnated in order to learn lessons we failed to learn in a past earthly life is contrary to both common sense and basic educational psychology. I cannot learn something if there is no continuity of memory. I can learn from my mistakes only if I remember them. People do not usually remember these supposed past “reincarnations.”
9. The supposed evidence for reincarnation, suddenly remembering past lives that comes out only under hypnosis or “past life regression” can be explained—if they truly occur at all—as mental telepathy from demons. The real possibility of the latter should make us extremely skittish about opening our minds to “past life regressions.”
Please Note: While I would agree with the demonic aspect, I do not agree with the idea of purgatory as the Bible does not teach it, nor can I agree with the idea of the souls of dead humans communicating with living people. The dead are confined, according to Scripture, and cannot contact the living. This is revealed in the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16 and by the extreme surprise of the witch of Endor when she saw Samuel who was dead (see 1 Sam. 28:8f).
She claimed to be a medium or one who contacts the dead, but when Saul requested that she contact Samuel and when God brought him forth, it startled her and brought great fear. This appeared to be her first experience with the real thing, i.e., with seeing the dead because this is normally not possible. When people do experience such experiences or contact, what they are seeing or experiencing is identified as demonic dception.
10. Reincarnation cannot account for itself. Why are our souls imprisoned in bodies? Is it the just punishment for evils we committed in past reincarnations? But why were those past reincarnations necessary? For the same reason. But the beginning of the process that justly imprisoned our souls in bodies in the first place—this must have antedated the series of bodies. How could we have committed evil in the state of perfect, pure, heavenly spirituality? Further, if we sinned in that paradise, it is not paradisical after all. Yet that is the state that reincarnation is supposed to lead us back to after all our embodied yearnings are over.
If the answer is given that our bodies are not penalties for sin but illusions of individuality, the pantheistic One becoming many in human consciousness, no reason can possibly be given for this. Indeed, Hinduism calls it simply lila, divine play. What a stupid game for God to play! If Oneness is perfection, why would perfection play the game of imperfection? All the world’s sins and sufferings are reduced to a meaningless, inexplicable game.
And if evil is itself only illusory (the answer given by many mystics) then the existence of this illusion is itself a real and not just illusory evil.
(See Justin Martyr, Dialog with Trypho [ca. a.d. 180], and Albrecht, Reincarnation, for extended Christian critiques of this idea.)
The following information is from The Bible Has the Answer by Henry M. Morris and Martin E. Clark (Master’s Books, El Cajon).
The first, most glaring dissimilarity between reincarnation and Biblical doctrine occurs in the idea of a recurring cycle of existence. Does each person live many times in the same or different form? The Bible says, “It is appointed for men once to die, and after this comes judgment” (Hebrews 9:27).
The Scripture pictures death as a separation of the soul from the world, Christ Himself describing death as God requiring man’s soul (Luke 12:20). When a saint of God dies, rather than merely being promoted to a higher status for another lifetime, he enters his eternal estate, secured for him by God’s grace. The divinely inspired apostle exclaimed, “We are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8). Christ’s record of the rich man and Lazarus shows that both the saved and the unsaved enter their respective rewards following death (Luke 16:19-31).
One’s life is not followed by an indefinite number of succeeding lifetimes. This vital difference established, more tangible differences emerge.
Classical ideas of reincarnation know nothing of a personal God who enters holy relationships with those He has created. Belief in reincarnation conceives ultimate reality to be a cognitive thought process within man alone, rather than from or with their personal God.
Doctrines of reincarnation or a perpetual cycle of rebirth are common in religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and many sects of Spiritism and the New Age movement. While there are multiple variations on the details, the overarching idea is that you lived innumerable lives in other bodies (human, animal, perhaps even plant, god, or ghost) before the life you are living now. One day this body will die, and you will be reborn again in another body as someone or something else. This cycle is considered a prison of suffering that we must escape if we are to exist as we ought, in unembodied union with all things (Pantheism: All is God; God is all). Bodily life, therefore, it is taught, is not real, true, or ultimately desirable life.
Further, reincarnation schemes make men’s spiritual advancement contingent upon his own mortal efforts, attempting to make merit outweigh demerit, i.e., good deeds outweigh bad deeds. Christianity shows, however, that salvation cannot be earned by sinful man, but rather, it is merited to them by Jesus Christ’s substitutionary death and resurrection for all who believe.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Theories of reincarnation falsely claim that man’s spiritual, physical, and moral conditions are determined by a former life and therefore not under his own control. Physically, this has led to a passive, pessimistic acceptance of untold misery that was actually unnecessary. Spiritually, it is even more devastating.
The Bible reveals that no one is bound in his sins against his will, and though born under Adam’s curse, “if we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). Through God’s forgiving grace, “though your sins be as scarlet, they will be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they will be like wool” (Isaiah 1:18). Consequently, the Christian does not worry about his merit outweighing his demerit, for his sins have been forgiven, God having promised, “I will remember their sins no more” (Hebrews 8:12).
Finally, some people attempt to equate reincarnation with the Christian doctrine of resurrection, but in doing so, violate the meanings of both reincarnation and resurrection. Reincarnation advances the theory of a succession of future lives upon earth, bound by similar constraints and physical laws, while the resurrection speaks of that time when the earthly bodies of believers with all their accoutrements (an item of dress - all the things you have when you travel) will be transformed and fitted for their eternal estate (John 5:29).
Reincarnation holds that matter is essentially evil (Gnosticism), while resurrection demonstrates that there is no moral dualism between matter and spirit. Reincarnation posits a succession of future lives in different bodies (or even a different species of physical life), while Biblical resurrection promises that one’s own body will take on a new, incorruptible, glorified form.
Describing the resurrection, the Apostle Paul stated, “It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body [as is Jesus Christs'] . . . it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body” (1 Corinthians 15:42, 44).
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What does the Bible say about Reincarnation?
The Bible teaches there is no such thing as reincarnation. It shows that man is the special creation of God, created in God’s image with both a material body and an immaterial soul and spirit. He is presented as distinct and unique from all other creatures—angels and the animal kingdom alike.
The Bible teaches that at death, while man’s body is mortal, decays and returns to dust, his soul and spirit continues on; either to a place of torments for those who reject Christ, or to paradise (heaven) in God’s presence for those who have trusted in Jesus Christ as their Savior. Both categories of people will be resurrected, one to eternal judgment and the other to eternal life with a glorified body (John 5:25-29).
The emphatic statement of the Bible, is that “it is appointed unto men once to die and after that the judgment” (Hebrew 9:27). This statement and the Biblical teaching that mankind’s creation in God’s image is unique from the animals and even angels, stands in total opposition to any idea of reincarnation: dying and coming back as another person, or transmigration: in the form of an animal or insect.
The claims of some who believe they have had a past history in other bodies is a deceitful lie they have believed, from an encounter with demonic spiritual powers (fallen angels, present on earth throughout history, since being kicked out of heaven).
Information below from "A Handbook of Christian Apologetics," by Peter Kreeft and Ronald Tacelli. (InterVarsity Press, Downers Grove).
Six Basic Theories:
The human race has come up with six basic theories about what happens to us when we die.
1. Materialism: Nothing survives. Death ends all of me. Seldom held before the eighteenth century, materialism is now a strong minority view in industrialized nations. It is the natural accompaniment of atheism.
2. Paganism: A vague, shadowy semiself or ghost survives and goes to the place of the dead, the dark, gloomy Underworld. This is the standard pagan belief. Traces of it can be found even in the Old Testament Jewish notion of sheol. The “ghost” that survives is less alive, less substantial, less real than the flesh and blood organism now living. It is something like a “ghost image” on a TV set: a pale copy of the lost original.
3. Reincarnation: The individual soul survives and is reincarnated into another body. Reincarnation is usually connected with the next belief, pantheism, by the notion of karma: that after the soul has fulfilled its destiny, and learned its lessons and become sufficiently enlightened, it reverts to a divine status or is absorbed into (or realizes its timeless identity with) the divine All.
4. Pantheism: Death changes nothing, for what survives death is the same as what was real before death: only the one, changeless, eternal, perfect, spiritual, divine, all-inclusive Reality, sometimes called by a name (“Brahman”) and sometimes not (as in Buddhism). In this view—that of Eastern mysticism—all separateness, including time, is an illusion. Therefore, in this view, the very question of what happens after death is mistaken. The question is not solved but dissolved.
5. Immortality: The individual soul survives death, but not the body. This soul eventually reaches its eternal destiny of heaven or hell, perhaps through intermediate stages, perhaps through reincarnation. But what survives is an individual, bodyless spirit. This is Platonism, often confused with Christianity.
6. Resurrection: At death, the soul separates from the body and is reunited at the end of the world to its new, immortal, resurrected body by a divine miracle. This is the Christian view. This view, the supernatural resurrection of the body rather than the natural immortality of the soul alone, is the only version of life after death in Scripture. It is dimly prophesied and hoped for in the Old Testament, but clearly revealed in the Christian New Testament.
Christianity rejects reincarnation for ten reasons.
1. It is contradicted by Scripture (Heb 9:27).
2. It is contradicted by orthodox tradition in all churches.
3. It would reduce the Incarnation (referring to Christ’s incarnation) to a mere appearance, the crucifixion to an accident, and Christ to just one among many philosophers or avatars. It would also confuse what Christ did with what creatures claim to do: incarnation with reincarnation.
4. It implies that God made a mistake in designing our souls to live in bodies, that we are really pure spirits in prison or angels in costume.
5. It is contradicted by psychology and common sense, for its view of souls as imprisoned in alien bodies denies the natural psychosomatic unity.
6. It entails a very low view of the body, as a prison, a punishment.
7. It usually blames sin on the body and the body’s power to confuse and darken the mind. This is passing the buck from soul to body, as well as from will to mind, and a confusion of sin with ignorance.
8. The idea that we are reincarnated in order to learn lessons we failed to learn in a past earthly life is contrary to both common sense and basic educational psychology. I cannot learn something if there is no continuity of memory. I can learn from my mistakes only if I remember them. People do not usually remember these supposed past “reincarnations.”
9. The supposed evidence for reincarnation, suddenly remembering past lives that comes out only under hypnosis or “past life regression” can be explained—if they truly occur at all—as mental telepathy from demons. The real possibility of the latter should make us extremely skittish about opening our minds to “past life regressions.”
Please Note: While I would agree with the demonic aspect, I do not agree with the idea of purgatory as the Bible does not teach it, nor can I agree with the idea of the souls of dead humans communicating with living people. The dead are confined, according to Scripture, and cannot contact the living. This is revealed in the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16 and by the extreme surprise of the witch of Endor when she saw Samuel who was dead (see 1 Sam. 28:8f).
She claimed to be a medium or one who contacts the dead, but when Saul requested that she contact Samuel and when God brought him forth, it startled her and brought great fear. This appeared to be her first experience with the real thing, i.e., with seeing the dead because this is normally not possible. When people do experience such experiences or contact, what they are seeing or experiencing is identified as demonic dception.
10. Reincarnation cannot account for itself. Why are our souls imprisoned in bodies? Is it the just punishment for evils we committed in past reincarnations? But why were those past reincarnations necessary? For the same reason. But the beginning of the process that justly imprisoned our souls in bodies in the first place—this must have antedated the series of bodies. How could we have committed evil in the state of perfect, pure, heavenly spirituality? Further, if we sinned in that paradise, it is not paradisical after all. Yet that is the state that reincarnation is supposed to lead us back to after all our embodied yearnings are over.
If the answer is given that our bodies are not penalties for sin but illusions of individuality, the pantheistic One becoming many in human consciousness, no reason can possibly be given for this. Indeed, Hinduism calls it simply lila, divine play. What a stupid game for God to play! If Oneness is perfection, why would perfection play the game of imperfection? All the world’s sins and sufferings are reduced to a meaningless, inexplicable game.
And if evil is itself only illusory (the answer given by many mystics) then the existence of this illusion is itself a real and not just illusory evil.
(See Justin Martyr, Dialog with Trypho [ca. a.d. 180], and Albrecht, Reincarnation, for extended Christian critiques of this idea.)
The following information is from The Bible Has the Answer by Henry M. Morris and Martin E. Clark (Master’s Books, El Cajon).
The first, most glaring dissimilarity between reincarnation and Biblical doctrine occurs in the idea of a recurring cycle of existence. Does each person live many times in the same or different form? The Bible says, “It is appointed for men once to die, and after this comes judgment” (Hebrews 9:27).
The Scripture pictures death as a separation of the soul from the world, Christ Himself describing death as God requiring man’s soul (Luke 12:20). When a saint of God dies, rather than merely being promoted to a higher status for another lifetime, he enters his eternal estate, secured for him by God’s grace. The divinely inspired apostle exclaimed, “We are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8). Christ’s record of the rich man and Lazarus shows that both the saved and the unsaved enter their respective rewards following death (Luke 16:19-31).
One’s life is not followed by an indefinite number of succeeding lifetimes. This vital difference established, more tangible differences emerge.
Classical ideas of reincarnation know nothing of a personal God who enters holy relationships with those He has created. Belief in reincarnation conceives ultimate reality to be a cognitive thought process within man alone, rather than from or with their personal God.
Doctrines of reincarnation or a perpetual cycle of rebirth are common in religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and many sects of Spiritism and the New Age movement. While there are multiple variations on the details, the overarching idea is that you lived innumerable lives in other bodies (human, animal, perhaps even plant, god, or ghost) before the life you are living now. One day this body will die, and you will be reborn again in another body as someone or something else. This cycle is considered a prison of suffering that we must escape if we are to exist as we ought, in unembodied union with all things (Pantheism: All is God; God is all). Bodily life, therefore, it is taught, is not real, true, or ultimately desirable life.
Further, reincarnation schemes make men’s spiritual advancement contingent upon his own mortal efforts, attempting to make merit outweigh demerit, i.e., good deeds outweigh bad deeds. Christianity shows, however, that salvation cannot be earned by sinful man, but rather, it is merited to them by Jesus Christ’s substitutionary death and resurrection for all who believe.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Theories of reincarnation falsely claim that man’s spiritual, physical, and moral conditions are determined by a former life and therefore not under his own control. Physically, this has led to a passive, pessimistic acceptance of untold misery that was actually unnecessary. Spiritually, it is even more devastating.
The Bible reveals that no one is bound in his sins against his will, and though born under Adam’s curse, “if we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). Through God’s forgiving grace, “though your sins be as scarlet, they will be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they will be like wool” (Isaiah 1:18). Consequently, the Christian does not worry about his merit outweighing his demerit, for his sins have been forgiven, God having promised, “I will remember their sins no more” (Hebrews 8:12).
Finally, some people attempt to equate reincarnation with the Christian doctrine of resurrection, but in doing so, violate the meanings of both reincarnation and resurrection. Reincarnation advances the theory of a succession of future lives upon earth, bound by similar constraints and physical laws, while the resurrection speaks of that time when the earthly bodies of believers with all their accoutrements (an item of dress - all the things you have when you travel) will be transformed and fitted for their eternal estate (John 5:29).
Reincarnation holds that matter is essentially evil (Gnosticism), while resurrection demonstrates that there is no moral dualism between matter and spirit. Reincarnation posits a succession of future lives in different bodies (or even a different species of physical life), while Biblical resurrection promises that one’s own body will take on a new, incorruptible, glorified form.
Describing the resurrection, the Apostle Paul stated, “It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body [as is Jesus Christs'] . . . it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body” (1 Corinthians 15:42, 44).
https://bible.org/question/what-does-bible-say-about-reincarnation
https://carm.org/dictionary-reincarnation
Apr 21, 2019 09:10:31 #
Zemirah wrote:
Reincarnation is the belief in the birth and rebir... (show quote)
Amen and Amen very good there Zemirah and happy pagan Easter to you this fine morning. I should rephrase that happy glorious Resurrection day to you.
Apr 21, 2019 10:01:16 #
Good morning, Bruce,
May God bless you and your loved ones this beautiful Resurrection morning, with sunshine, love and joy.
May the pagans believe the true Biblical message of Jesus' death on the cross for every one of us, and may they believe, repent and accept eternal salvation from Jesus Christ, the King of Glory.
May God bless you and your loved ones this beautiful Resurrection morning, with sunshine, love and joy.
May the pagans believe the true Biblical message of Jesus' death on the cross for every one of us, and may they believe, repent and accept eternal salvation from Jesus Christ, the King of Glory.
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen very good there Zemirah and happy pagan Easter to you this fine morning. I should rephrase that happy glorious Resurrection day to you.
Apr 21, 2019 10:20:53 #
Zemirah wrote:
Good morning, Bruce,
May God bless you and your loved ones this beautiful Resurrection morning, with sunshine, love and joy.
May the pagans believe the true Biblical message of Jesus' death on the cross for every one of us, and may they believe, repent and accept eternal salvation from Jesus Christ, the King of Glory.
May God bless you and your loved ones this beautiful Resurrection morning, with sunshine, love and joy.
May the pagans believe the true Biblical message of Jesus' death on the cross for every one of us, and may they believe, repent and accept eternal salvation from Jesus Christ, the King of Glory.
Amen and Amen and the same to you this morning as well.
Apr 21, 2019 10:57:55 #
Thank you, Bruce,
I'm keeping an eye out for the big brown pagan bunny that wintered under my cord of fireplace/firewood in the backyard.
He is going to be treated to fresh lettuce and carrots this morning if he appears.
All God's Creation will rejoice.
I'm keeping an eye out for the big brown pagan bunny that wintered under my cord of fireplace/firewood in the backyard.
He is going to be treated to fresh lettuce and carrots this morning if he appears.
All God's Creation will rejoice.
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen and the same to you this morning as well.
Apr 21, 2019 11:33:42 #
Zemirah wrote:
Thank you, Bruce,
I'm keeping an eye out for the big brown pagan bunny that wintered under my cord of fireplace/firewood in the backyard.
He is going to be treated to fresh lettuce and carrots this morning if he appears.
All God's Creation will rejoice.
I'm keeping an eye out for the big brown pagan bunny that wintered under my cord of fireplace/firewood in the backyard.
He is going to be treated to fresh lettuce and carrots this morning if he appears.
All God's Creation will rejoice.
He will be one happy rabbit when he comes out.
Apr 25, 2019 13:51:50 #
susanblange
Loc: USA
If there is an incarnation (of God), there can also be reincarnation. Adam (Satan), and Jesus (Lucifer) have been kicked out of Heaven and reincarnated. Also Elijah (the Prophet), Gabrielle and Michael (the Archangels), David (the King), and Deborah (the Judge) have all been reincarnated. David and Michael are called "princes". A prince is the son of a King, God/Messiah. They are the adopted children of God. Psalm 45:16. "Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth".
Apr 25, 2019 19:53:30 #
No, Susan, there can't.
The Incarnation of God is Grounded in Scripture:
It’s at the heart of the Christian faith.
It’s the central fact of human history.
It’s the defining reality of all existence.
In Christian theology, the doctrine of the Incarnation proclaims that Jesus, who is and has always been, the pre-existent eternal divine Logos (Word) and the second hypostasis of the Trinity, i.e., God the Son - the Son of the Father, took on a human body and human nature ("was made flesh") and conceived in the womb of the virgin, Mary.
The doctrine of the Incarnation, then, entails that Jesus Christ, being eternally fully God (who is Spirit), became also fully human, with his two separate natures joined in "hypostatic" union.
This unquestionably foundational topic is the greatest mystery of the universe: our Lord’s assumption of human flesh.
God's Word, Holy Scripture strongly declares mankind has only one lifetime before his death, after which He/she faces judgement. He/she is not reincarnated (born into another body), ever, at any time or anywhere.
Each individual soul will, at the end of this age, be reunited with their resurrected, and now imperishable body.
1) Adam is a dead human being, awaiting judgement.
2) Satan is a fallen archangel who rebelled against God,and was kicked down to earth. He will be the "god of this earth" during this final age until it is brought to a screeching end by Jesus' return in glory.
3) Jesus is eternally God, and now sits at the right hand of God, the Father in heaven.
4) Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The remainder of your message is equally unscriptural.
Gabriel and Michael were created Archangels, and still are.
Elijah was taken directly to heaven at God's prerogative instead of meeting death.
David and Deborah are deceased human beings, awaiting the resurrection of the dead when Jesus appears in the clouds to call them up to himself in their resurrection bodies.
Psalm 45:16:
This should be understood as an address to the king himself - the main subject in the poem. The idea is, that he would derive his dignity and honor ultimately, not so much from his ancestors as his descendants; that those who would be born unto him would be more illustrious, and would have a wider dominion, than any who had gone before him in the line in which he was descended.
It is not easy or practicable to apply this to Solomon, or to any other Hebrew prince; it is not difficult to apply it to the Messiah, and to the fact that those who would be descended spiritually from him, and who would ultimately be regarded as deriving true rank and honor from him, would far surpass in dignity all those who, in the line of kings, had been his predecessors.
New International Version
Your sons will take the place of your fathers; you will make them princes throughout the land.
New Living Translation
Your sons will become kings like their father. You will make them rulers over many lands.
English Standard Version
In place of your fathers shall be your sons; you will make them princes in all the earth.
Berean Study Bible
Your sons will succeed your fathers; you will make them princes throughout the land.
New American Standard Bible
In place of your fathers will be your sons; You shall make them princes in all the earth.
King James Bible
Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth.
Christian Standard Bible
Your sons will succeed your ancestors; you will make them princes throughout the land.
Contemporary English Version
Your sons and your grandsons will also be kings as your ancestors were. You will make them rulers everywhere on earth.
The Incarnation of God is Grounded in Scripture:
It’s at the heart of the Christian faith.
It’s the central fact of human history.
It’s the defining reality of all existence.
In Christian theology, the doctrine of the Incarnation proclaims that Jesus, who is and has always been, the pre-existent eternal divine Logos (Word) and the second hypostasis of the Trinity, i.e., God the Son - the Son of the Father, took on a human body and human nature ("was made flesh") and conceived in the womb of the virgin, Mary.
The doctrine of the Incarnation, then, entails that Jesus Christ, being eternally fully God (who is Spirit), became also fully human, with his two separate natures joined in "hypostatic" union.
This unquestionably foundational topic is the greatest mystery of the universe: our Lord’s assumption of human flesh.
God's Word, Holy Scripture strongly declares mankind has only one lifetime before his death, after which He/she faces judgement. He/she is not reincarnated (born into another body), ever, at any time or anywhere.
Each individual soul will, at the end of this age, be reunited with their resurrected, and now imperishable body.
1) Adam is a dead human being, awaiting judgement.
2) Satan is a fallen archangel who rebelled against God,and was kicked down to earth. He will be the "god of this earth" during this final age until it is brought to a screeching end by Jesus' return in glory.
3) Jesus is eternally God, and now sits at the right hand of God, the Father in heaven.
4) Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The remainder of your message is equally unscriptural.
Gabriel and Michael were created Archangels, and still are.
Elijah was taken directly to heaven at God's prerogative instead of meeting death.
David and Deborah are deceased human beings, awaiting the resurrection of the dead when Jesus appears in the clouds to call them up to himself in their resurrection bodies.
Psalm 45:16:
This should be understood as an address to the king himself - the main subject in the poem. The idea is, that he would derive his dignity and honor ultimately, not so much from his ancestors as his descendants; that those who would be born unto him would be more illustrious, and would have a wider dominion, than any who had gone before him in the line in which he was descended.
It is not easy or practicable to apply this to Solomon, or to any other Hebrew prince; it is not difficult to apply it to the Messiah, and to the fact that those who would be descended spiritually from him, and who would ultimately be regarded as deriving true rank and honor from him, would far surpass in dignity all those who, in the line of kings, had been his predecessors.
New International Version
Your sons will take the place of your fathers; you will make them princes throughout the land.
New Living Translation
Your sons will become kings like their father. You will make them rulers over many lands.
English Standard Version
In place of your fathers shall be your sons; you will make them princes in all the earth.
Berean Study Bible
Your sons will succeed your fathers; you will make them princes throughout the land.
New American Standard Bible
In place of your fathers will be your sons; You shall make them princes in all the earth.
King James Bible
Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth.
Christian Standard Bible
Your sons will succeed your ancestors; you will make them princes throughout the land.
Contemporary English Version
Your sons and your grandsons will also be kings as your ancestors were. You will make them rulers everywhere on earth.
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God created us in his image. It has always been God's intent to live on earth. He created us because he was lonely. God is one, not three-in-one. Your god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. God is a husband and wife and they are one flesh. Genesis 2:24. "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh". Life is full of second chances, until the death of the soul/body. Then we are judged. The soul/body is a temporary house for the spirit and the death of the soul/body is permanent. The spirit can be immortal, if you go to Heaven. You can also choose to reincarnate. If your spirit goes to Hell, eventually it will be extinguished and you will cease to exist. The word Angel comes from the Hebrew "seraphim" and it means "burning ones". Fire is a symbol of holiness and God appeared to Moses in a burning bush.
Apr 25, 2019 23:00:31 #
The word angel arrives in modern English from Old English engel (with a hard g) and the Old French angele. Both of these derive from Late Latin angelus (literally "messenger"), which in turn was borrowed from Late Greek ἄγγελος aggelos, commonly transliterated by non-Greek speakers in its phonetic form ángelos. Additionally, per Dutch linguist R. S. P. Beekes, ángelos itself may be "an Oriental loan, like ἄγγαρος (ángaros, 'Persian mounted courier')." Perhaps then, the word's earliest form is Mycenaean a-ke-ro, attested in Linear B syllabic script.
The rendering of "ángelos" is the Septuagint's default translation of the Biblical Hebrew term mal’ākh, denoting simply "messenger" without connoting its nature. In the associations to follow in the Latin Vulgate, this meaning becomes bifurcated: when mal’ākh or ángelos is supposed to denote a human messenger, words like nuntius or legatus are applied. If the word refers to some supernatural being, the word angelus appears. Such differentiation has been taken over by later vernacular translations of the Bible, early Christian and Jewish exegetes and eventually modern scholars.
The rendering of "ángelos" is the Septuagint's default translation of the Biblical Hebrew term mal’ākh, denoting simply "messenger" without connoting its nature. In the associations to follow in the Latin Vulgate, this meaning becomes bifurcated: when mal’ākh or ángelos is supposed to denote a human messenger, words like nuntius or legatus are applied. If the word refers to some supernatural being, the word angelus appears. Such differentiation has been taken over by later vernacular translations of the Bible, early Christian and Jewish exegetes and eventually modern scholars.
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