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Apr 14, 2019 10:34:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Great idea.... but, first I think we should withdraw federal monies from these cities. This would also include disaster relief and even ability to call national guard for peacekeeping.

He tried that already. They sued and the courts 'found' a law preventing just such actions.

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Apr 14, 2019 10:39:12   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
He tried that already. They sued and the courts 'found' a law preventing just such actions.


Let me guess. 9th circuit?

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Apr 14, 2019 11:00:42   #
Carol Kelly
 
America 1 wrote:
Maybe we should be more concerned with saving US citizens from a******n.
Spend to support nurture and educate.
Offer i*****l i*******ts the a******ns or a ride back to home country.


I love your ideas. Makes sense. I could say more, but you said it al in three sentences.

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Apr 14, 2019 11:38:51   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Great idea.... but, first I think we should withdraw federal monies from these cities. This would also include disaster relief and even ability to call national guard for peacekeeping.


Amen and Amen

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Apr 14, 2019 13:05:52   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
JFlorio wrote:
It’s a brilliant strategy. How can cities and or states actually b***h that they don’t want these people when that is their specified reason for being a sanctuary city. I mean heaven forbid they set these illegal policies up just for v**es.


These ideas were never put up for v**e jerry brown just placed them! Along with no v**e on v**er I’d and now that new replacement placing moratorium on death penalty! All fraud!

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Apr 14, 2019 15:34:51   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Pennylynn wrote:
This is just my opinion, but those cities and states that allow them to break the laws (immigration in this case) should consider if they can afford to continue to break laws to support the population they invited. Ergo, essential human needs are their responsibility, i.e., food, clothing, shelter and so on. We need to support all US citizens, therefore the US government would need to do open announcements to those cities that the US will not insure or ensure their safety or well being. In other words, these cities would be on their own. After all, these mayors sing the tune that i******s pay taxes..... they should be able to manage without outside tax income. So, I do not see how they could object.

As for a mass exodus from these cities..... I do not care if they leave these cities ghost towns or become populated by either muslim or hispanic.... really, it is their towns. And this would be good in the long term, especially if the cities decide that they want to change their minds and obey laws. ICE could go in with buses to get those "undocumented" individuals to the closest deportation judge and on their way back to their native countries.

I would never encourage the invasion of Canada. If muslims/latinos decided to "invade" them, it would be up to their immigration control and border agents. I read that they (Canada) will not accept more than 300,000 immigrants (for any reason) each year. I imagine that they have controls established to manage their borders. Perhaps if this happened then Canadians would be more empathetic to what we are facing.

This is just my opinion, but those cities and stat... (show quote)


About 70% of workers in California are paid in cash because they pay no taxes. Kind of why they want them to have licenses-some form of documentation. Most of the HUD houses have been deemed unliveable. I only brought up Canada as a joke, they'd die either going there or trying to survive the cold.

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Apr 14, 2019 15:36:31   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
About 70% of workers in California are paid in cash because they pay no taxes. Kind of why they want them to have licenses-some form of documentation. Most of the HUD houses have been deemed unliveable. I only brought up Canada as a joke, they'd die either going there or trying to survive the cold.


Good point!

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Apr 14, 2019 16:13:54   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
About 70% of workers in California are paid in cash because they pay no taxes. Kind of why they want them to have licenses-some form of documentation. Most of the HUD houses have been deemed unliveable. I only brought up Canada as a joke, they'd die either going there or trying to survive the cold.


There are not many hud homes left! The government was selling them for very little to cities to practically give to investors! Many were unlivable, therefore investors bought and flipped! Gabbie Mae in turn raised the price of homes prematurely in order to push the market up! Fannie Mae overpriced homes by 30 to 50 thousand what the neighborhood would bear and didn’t require appraisals on their financing! The neighborhoods would then raise their prices to match! That’s why market was overinflated!

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Apr 14, 2019 17:17:52   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
JFlorio wrote:
It’s a brilliant strategy. How can cities and or states actually b***h that they don’t want these people when that is their specified reason for being a sanctuary city. I mean heaven forbid they set these illegal policies up just for v**es.


Problem is we didn’t get to v**e on it! And if it were on the b****t the i******s would v**e it in or out, wh**ever their handlers paid them to do!!

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Apr 14, 2019 17:23:23   #
fidelis
 
Penny, I believe the pres already tried withholding funds but was beaten down by the liberal courts. Should have appealed to the supremes, and maybe has. Question, how can it be unconstitutional when they are the criminals, both the border jumpers AND the politicians. What happened to the legal concept of fruit of the poisoned tree makes any fruit borne of it illegal? Ie citizenship, birthright citizenship and amnesty.

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Apr 14, 2019 17:51:08   #
debeda
 
fidelis wrote:
Penny, I believe the pres already tried withholding funds but was beaten down by the liberal courts. Should have appealed to the supremes, and maybe has. Question, how can it be unconstitutional when they are the criminals, both the border jumpers AND the politicians. What happened to the legal concept of fruit of the poisoned tree makes any fruit borne of it illegal? Ie citizenship, birthright citizenship and amnesty.



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Apr 14, 2019 22:14:31   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Great idea.... but, first I think we should withdraw federal monies from these cities. This would also include disaster relief and even ability to call national guard for peacekeeping.


I think he tried that and the court said he couldn't

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Apr 14, 2019 22:16:28   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
fidelis wrote:
Penny, I believe the pres already tried withholding funds but was beaten down by the liberal courts. Should have appealed to the supremes, and maybe has. Question, how can it be unconstitutional when they are the criminals, both the border jumpers AND the politicians. What happened to the legal concept of fruit of the poisoned tree makes any fruit borne of it illegal? Ie citizenship, birthright citizenship and amnesty.


As you said its a liberal court they can do what they want

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Apr 14, 2019 22:23:22   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
bggamers wrote:
I think he tried that and the court said he couldn't


You are right, it happened in 2018... In a 2-1 decision, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said Trump's January 2017 executive order, cutting off federal funds to sanctuary cities, was unconstitutional. But the court also ruled that a lower court went too far when it blocked the order nationwide.

"Absent congressional authorization, the administration may not redistribute or withhold properly appropriated funds in order to effectuate its own policy goals," Chief Judge Sidney Thomas wrote for the majority.

Justice Department spokesman Devin O'Malley said the executive order was a legal use of the president's power. He called the 9th Circuit's decision a victory for "criminal aliens in California, who can continue to commit crimes knowing that the state’s leadership will protect them from federal immigration officers whose job it is to hold them accountable and remove them from the country."https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/sanctuary-cities-trump-cant-pull-federal-funds-court-rules/883354002/

I hope that the WH appealed the decision.

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Apr 14, 2019 22:27:02   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You are right, it happened in 2018... In a 2-1 decision, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said Trump's January 2017 executive order, cutting off federal funds to sanctuary cities, was unconstitutional. But the court also ruled that a lower court went too far when it blocked the order nationwide.

"Absent congressional authorization, the administration may not redistribute or withhold properly appropriated funds in order to effectuate its own policy goals," Chief Judge Sidney Thomas wrote for the majority.

Justice Department spokesman Devin O'Malley said the executive order was a legal use of the president's power. He called the 9th Circuit's decision a victory for "criminal aliens in California, who can continue to commit crimes knowing that the state’s leadership will protect them from federal immigration officers whose job it is to hold them accountable and remove them from the country."https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/sanctuary-cities-trump-cant-pull-federal-funds-court-rules/883354002/

I hope that the WH appealed the decision.
You are right, it happened in 2018... In a 2-1 dec... (show quote)


So do I seems if they blatantly are going agains federal law they should loose funding thanks for the info

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