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Apr 12, 2019 18:12:37   #
PeterS
 
Trump says he intends to dump asylum seekers in democrat districts...I assume as some form of punishment for not bowing to his will. This should make the far right happy--I can imagine PR doing a little jig--but I think Trump will find is that Americans will do what they can to help these people out. What this is going to show is how petty Trump and his follower are and just how BIG this country really is.

https://www.apnews.com/0596f544fe0646ada2a6383e23f74e83

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he is strongly considering releasing “I*****l I*******ts” into Democratic strongholds to punish congressional foes for inaction on the border— just hours after White House and Homeland Security officials insisted the idea had been rejected as fast as it had been proposed.

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous i*********n l*ws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing I*****l I*******ts in Sanctuary Cities only,” Trump tweeted. He added that, “The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy - so this should make them very happy!”

He later told reporters that he was “strongly looking at” the idea of releasing migrant families into those communities, though there were no immediate plans in place to implement Trump’s threat.

“They’re always saying they have open arms. Let’s see if they have open arms,” he said.

The reversal, which appeared to catch officials at the Department of Homeland Security off guard, came as critics were blasting news that the White House had at least twice considered a plan to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities, using migrants as pawns to go after political opponents.

Before Trump’s comments, both the Department of Homeland Security and a White House official had insisted in nearly identical statements that that plan had been floated but then flatly rejected.

But not, apparently, by the president, who emphatically revived the idea.

“Sanctuary cities” are places where local authorities do not cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, denying information or resources that would help ICE round up for deportation people living in the country illegally.

They include New York City and San Francisco, home city of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who on Friday called the idea “unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face as a country, as a people, to address who we are — a nation of immigrants.”

The idea of pressing immigration authorities to embrace the plan was discussed in November and then again in February as the Trump administration struggled with a surge of migrants at the border, according to three people who spoke on condition of anonymity to outline private conversations. Homeland Security and ICE lawyers quickly rejected the proposal, according to the people, and it was dropped on the grounds that it was complicated, too expensive and a misuse of funds, two of the people said.

The plan, which was first reported by the Washington Post, is one of many ideas considered by an increasingly frustrated White House in recent months as Trump has railed against the growing number of Central American migrant families crossing the southern border and looked for new ways to increase leverage on congressional Democrats to change laws that Trump insists are making the problem worse.

Officials say they are running out of options, and have proposed and recycled numerous ideas that have never come to fruition. Trump in recent weeks has discussed the idea of renewing his administration’s controversial family separation policy.

There were at least two versions of the sanctuary city plan that were considered, according to one of the people familiar with the effort. One would have moved people who had already been detained and were being held elsewhere to places with Democratic opponents of the president, while the other would have t***sported migrants apprehended at the border directly to San Francisco, New York City, Chicago and other spots.

ICE arrests people in the U.S. illegally and also manages migrants who present themselves at border crossings and ask for asylum. The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has been taxing the system, forcing ICE to set free more than 125,000 people as they await court hearings — a practice Trump has derided as “catch and release.” With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration has also been busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities such as Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle.

Federal court rules prohibit the detention of children longer than 20 days.

Revelation of the “sanctuary cities” plan drew immediate condemnation from Pelosi and other Democrats.

Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, who chairs the House Homeland Security committee, said: “The fact that this idea was even considered - not once but twice - serves as a reminder that the Trump Administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty. ”

T***sporting large groups of immigrants to distant cities would be expensive and burdensome for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is already strapped for cash. The agency has said it doesn’t have the resources for immigrants processed by the Border Patrol and Border Patrol in most southern border sectors and is now instead releasing families after a health screening and criminal background check, leaving local nonprofits to help them make travel arrangements.

Flights chartered by ICE cost about $7,785 per flight hour, according to the agency. They require multiple staffers, including an officer who coordinates, several others who fly and monitor passengers and an in-flight medical professional. The agency also uses commercial flights but requires that migrants to pay for those. It’s unclear if that would be the case for families, who usually arrive with no money and rely on relatives already in the U.S. to pay for t***sportation.

Still, many “sanctuary” communities would likely welcome the immigrants in question and have nonprofit legal groups that could help them strengthen their legal cases to stay in the country.

Matt Albence, ICE’s new acting director, denied the White House pressured immigration officials to implement the idea when he was serving as deputy.

“I was asked my opinion and provided it, and my advice was heeded,” he said in a statement.

The Department of Health and Human Services said this week that it had started scouting vacant properties that could be turned into facilities for holding migrant children in several cities, including Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and San Antonio.

Those facilities would be licensed by each state and likely take several months to be approved and opened, separating them from the rapidly expanding emergency shelter at Homestead, Florida, and the now-closed tent facility at Tornillo, Texas.

The Defense Department has also been reviewing a number of military bases to find a location that can house up to 5,000 unaccompanied migrant children as the U.S. braces for a surge of people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border this spring. Health and Human Services submitted the request for space last month, as Homeland Security leaders warned that tens of thousands of families were crossing the border each month. HHS has traditionally been responsible for providing temporary shelter to unaccompanied migrant.

ICE is tasked with arresting people living in the country illegally — including some who have been here for decades. Under the Trump administration, ICE has significantly stepped up arrests, including of people who have no U.S. criminal records.

In response, some cities have banished ICE from jails where agents could easily pick up immigration violators. Police in New York, Baltimore and Seattle rarely, if ever, disclose information about when suspected criminals in the U.S. illegally will be released from custody.

Democrats have said they will tackle immigration bills, possibly as soon as they return from their spring recess, and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has indicated an interest in working on the issue.

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Apr 12, 2019 18:21:03   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump says he intends to dump asylum seekers in democrat districts...I assume as some form of punishment for not bowing to his will. This should make the far right happy--I can imagine PR doing a little jig--but I think Trump will find is that Americans will do what they can to help these people out. What this is going to show is how petty Trump and his follower are and just how BIG this country really is.

https://www.apnews.com/0596f544fe0646ada2a6383e23f74e83

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he is strongly considering releasing “I*****l I*******ts” into Democratic strongholds to punish congressional foes for inaction on the border— just hours after White House and Homeland Security officials insisted the idea had been rejected as fast as it had been proposed.

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous i*********n l*ws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing I*****l I*******ts in Sanctuary Cities only,” Trump tweeted. He added that, “The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy - so this should make them very happy!”

He later told reporters that he was “strongly looking at” the idea of releasing migrant families into those communities, though there were no immediate plans in place to implement Trump’s threat.

“They’re always saying they have open arms. Let’s see if they have open arms,” he said.

The reversal, which appeared to catch officials at the Department of Homeland Security off guard, came as critics were blasting news that the White House had at least twice considered a plan to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities, using migrants as pawns to go after political opponents.

Before Trump’s comments, both the Department of Homeland Security and a White House official had insisted in nearly identical statements that that plan had been floated but then flatly rejected.

But not, apparently, by the president, who emphatically revived the idea.

“Sanctuary cities” are places where local authorities do not cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, denying information or resources that would help ICE round up for deportation people living in the country illegally.

They include New York City and San Francisco, home city of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who on Friday called the idea “unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face as a country, as a people, to address who we are — a nation of immigrants.”

The idea of pressing immigration authorities to embrace the plan was discussed in November and then again in February as the Trump administration struggled with a surge of migrants at the border, according to three people who spoke on condition of anonymity to outline private conversations. Homeland Security and ICE lawyers quickly rejected the proposal, according to the people, and it was dropped on the grounds that it was complicated, too expensive and a misuse of funds, two of the people said.

The plan, which was first reported by the Washington Post, is one of many ideas considered by an increasingly frustrated White House in recent months as Trump has railed against the growing number of Central American migrant families crossing the southern border and looked for new ways to increase leverage on congressional Democrats to change laws that Trump insists are making the problem worse.

Officials say they are running out of options, and have proposed and recycled numerous ideas that have never come to fruition. Trump in recent weeks has discussed the idea of renewing his administration’s controversial family separation policy.

There were at least two versions of the sanctuary city plan that were considered, according to one of the people familiar with the effort. One would have moved people who had already been detained and were being held elsewhere to places with Democratic opponents of the president, while the other would have t***sported migrants apprehended at the border directly to San Francisco, New York City, Chicago and other spots.

ICE arrests people in the U.S. illegally and also manages migrants who present themselves at border crossings and ask for asylum. The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has been taxing the system, forcing ICE to set free more than 125,000 people as they await court hearings — a practice Trump has derided as “catch and release.” With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration has also been busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities such as Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle.

Federal court rules prohibit the detention of children longer than 20 days.

Revelation of the “sanctuary cities” plan drew immediate condemnation from Pelosi and other Democrats.

Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, who chairs the House Homeland Security committee, said: “The fact that this idea was even considered - not once but twice - serves as a reminder that the Trump Administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty. ”

T***sporting large groups of immigrants to distant cities would be expensive and burdensome for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is already strapped for cash. The agency has said it doesn’t have the resources for immigrants processed by the Border Patrol and Border Patrol in most southern border sectors and is now instead releasing families after a health screening and criminal background check, leaving local nonprofits to help them make travel arrangements.

Flights chartered by ICE cost about $7,785 per flight hour, according to the agency. They require multiple staffers, including an officer who coordinates, several others who fly and monitor passengers and an in-flight medical professional. The agency also uses commercial flights but requires that migrants to pay for those. It’s unclear if that would be the case for families, who usually arrive with no money and rely on relatives already in the U.S. to pay for t***sportation.

Still, many “sanctuary” communities would likely welcome the immigrants in question and have nonprofit legal groups that could help them strengthen their legal cases to stay in the country.

Matt Albence, ICE’s new acting director, denied the White House pressured immigration officials to implement the idea when he was serving as deputy.

“I was asked my opinion and provided it, and my advice was heeded,” he said in a statement.

The Department of Health and Human Services said this week that it had started scouting vacant properties that could be turned into facilities for holding migrant children in several cities, including Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and San Antonio.

Those facilities would be licensed by each state and likely take several months to be approved and opened, separating them from the rapidly expanding emergency shelter at Homestead, Florida, and the now-closed tent facility at Tornillo, Texas.

The Defense Department has also been reviewing a number of military bases to find a location that can house up to 5,000 unaccompanied migrant children as the U.S. braces for a surge of people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border this spring. Health and Human Services submitted the request for space last month, as Homeland Security leaders warned that tens of thousands of families were crossing the border each month. HHS has traditionally been responsible for providing temporary shelter to unaccompanied migrant.

ICE is tasked with arresting people living in the country illegally — including some who have been here for decades. Under the Trump administration, ICE has significantly stepped up arrests, including of people who have no U.S. criminal records.

In response, some cities have banished ICE from jails where agents could easily pick up immigration violators. Police in New York, Baltimore and Seattle rarely, if ever, disclose information about when suspected criminals in the U.S. illegally will be released from custody.

Democrats have said they will tackle immigration bills, possibly as soon as they return from their spring recess, and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has indicated an interest in working on the issue.
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Democrats want to violate i*********n l*ws so let their cities take care of i******s.

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Apr 12, 2019 18:25:35   #
Lonewolf
 
we will immediately bus them to deep red states

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Apr 12, 2019 18:30:24   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats want to violate i*********n l*ws so let their cities take care of i******s.


Absolutely! It is the height of hypocrisy that they would yell like stuck pigs at the idea of deliberately off loading i******s in these bastions of warmth and welcome for the i******s. I don't quite understand why they perceive this to be a problem to them ?????

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Apr 12, 2019 18:32:00   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
An interesting take on the situation....

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/sanctuary-cities-should-take-trumps-migrantsand-put-them-to-work-194052298.html

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Apr 12, 2019 18:33:13   #
woodguru
 
Auntie Lulu wrote:
Absolutely! It is the height of hypocrisy that they would yell like stuck pigs at the idea of deliberately off loading i******s in these bastions of warmth and welcome for the i******s. I don't quite understand why they perceive this to be a problem to them ?????


Actually they don't, but Trump needs to be really really careful with breaking laws right now.

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Apr 12, 2019 18:38:03   #
Lonewolf
 
when is the last time republicans or democrats wanted to talk immigration reform never.
only time its mentioned is during an e******n once in office its forgotten.

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Apr 13, 2019 19:15:37   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump says he intends to dump asylum seekers in democrat districts...I assume as some form of punishment for not bowing to his will. This should make the far right happy--I can imagine PR doing a little jig--but I think Trump will find is that Americans will do what they can to help these people out. What this is going to show is how petty Trump and his follower are and just how BIG this country really is.

https://www.apnews.com/0596f544fe0646ada2a6383e23f74e83

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he is strongly considering releasing “I*****l I*******ts” into Democratic strongholds to punish congressional foes for inaction on the border— just hours after White House and Homeland Security officials insisted the idea had been rejected as fast as it had been proposed.

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous i*********n l*ws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing I*****l I*******ts in Sanctuary Cities only,” Trump tweeted. He added that, “The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy - so this should make them very happy!”

He later told reporters that he was “strongly looking at” the idea of releasing migrant families into those communities, though there were no immediate plans in place to implement Trump’s threat.

“They’re always saying they have open arms. Let’s see if they have open arms,” he said.

The reversal, which appeared to catch officials at the Department of Homeland Security off guard, came as critics were blasting news that the White House had at least twice considered a plan to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities, using migrants as pawns to go after political opponents.

Before Trump’s comments, both the Department of Homeland Security and a White House official had insisted in nearly identical statements that that plan had been floated but then flatly rejected.

But not, apparently, by the president, who emphatically revived the idea.

“Sanctuary cities” are places where local authorities do not cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, denying information or resources that would help ICE round up for deportation people living in the country illegally.

They include New York City and San Francisco, home city of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who on Friday called the idea “unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face as a country, as a people, to address who we are — a nation of immigrants.”

The idea of pressing immigration authorities to embrace the plan was discussed in November and then again in February as the Trump administration struggled with a surge of migrants at the border, according to three people who spoke on condition of anonymity to outline private conversations. Homeland Security and ICE lawyers quickly rejected the proposal, according to the people, and it was dropped on the grounds that it was complicated, too expensive and a misuse of funds, two of the people said.

The plan, which was first reported by the Washington Post, is one of many ideas considered by an increasingly frustrated White House in recent months as Trump has railed against the growing number of Central American migrant families crossing the southern border and looked for new ways to increase leverage on congressional Democrats to change laws that Trump insists are making the problem worse.

Officials say they are running out of options, and have proposed and recycled numerous ideas that have never come to fruition. Trump in recent weeks has discussed the idea of renewing his administration’s controversial family separation policy.

There were at least two versions of the sanctuary city plan that were considered, according to one of the people familiar with the effort. One would have moved people who had already been detained and were being held elsewhere to places with Democratic opponents of the president, while the other would have t***sported migrants apprehended at the border directly to San Francisco, New York City, Chicago and other spots.

ICE arrests people in the U.S. illegally and also manages migrants who present themselves at border crossings and ask for asylum. The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has been taxing the system, forcing ICE to set free more than 125,000 people as they await court hearings — a practice Trump has derided as “catch and release.” With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration has also been busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities such as Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle.

Federal court rules prohibit the detention of children longer than 20 days.

Revelation of the “sanctuary cities” plan drew immediate condemnation from Pelosi and other Democrats.

Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, who chairs the House Homeland Security committee, said: “The fact that this idea was even considered - not once but twice - serves as a reminder that the Trump Administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty. ”

T***sporting large groups of immigrants to distant cities would be expensive and burdensome for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is already strapped for cash. The agency has said it doesn’t have the resources for immigrants processed by the Border Patrol and Border Patrol in most southern border sectors and is now instead releasing families after a health screening and criminal background check, leaving local nonprofits to help them make travel arrangements.

Flights chartered by ICE cost about $7,785 per flight hour, according to the agency. They require multiple staffers, including an officer who coordinates, several others who fly and monitor passengers and an in-flight medical professional. The agency also uses commercial flights but requires that migrants to pay for those. It’s unclear if that would be the case for families, who usually arrive with no money and rely on relatives already in the U.S. to pay for t***sportation.

Still, many “sanctuary” communities would likely welcome the immigrants in question and have nonprofit legal groups that could help them strengthen their legal cases to stay in the country.

Matt Albence, ICE’s new acting director, denied the White House pressured immigration officials to implement the idea when he was serving as deputy.

“I was asked my opinion and provided it, and my advice was heeded,” he said in a statement.

The Department of Health and Human Services said this week that it had started scouting vacant properties that could be turned into facilities for holding migrant children in several cities, including Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and San Antonio.

Those facilities would be licensed by each state and likely take several months to be approved and opened, separating them from the rapidly expanding emergency shelter at Homestead, Florida, and the now-closed tent facility at Tornillo, Texas.

The Defense Department has also been reviewing a number of military bases to find a location that can house up to 5,000 unaccompanied migrant children as the U.S. braces for a surge of people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border this spring. Health and Human Services submitted the request for space last month, as Homeland Security leaders warned that tens of thousands of families were crossing the border each month. HHS has traditionally been responsible for providing temporary shelter to unaccompanied migrant.

ICE is tasked with arresting people living in the country illegally — including some who have been here for decades. Under the Trump administration, ICE has significantly stepped up arrests, including of people who have no U.S. criminal records.

In response, some cities have banished ICE from jails where agents could easily pick up immigration violators. Police in New York, Baltimore and Seattle rarely, if ever, disclose information about when suspected criminals in the U.S. illegally will be released from custody.

Democrats have said they will tackle immigration bills, possibly as soon as they return from their spring recess, and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has indicated an interest in working on the issue.
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This should make the far right happy--I can imagine PR doing a little jig--but I think Trump will find is that Americans will do what they can to help these people out.


Then what are they griping about???

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The reversal, which appeared to catch officials at the Department of Homeland Security off guard, came as critics were blasting news that the White House had at least twice considered a plan to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities, using migrants as pawns to go after political opponents.


Is this not exactly what the democrats have been doing all along???

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“Sanctuary cities” are places where local authorities do not cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, denying information or resources that would help ICE round up for deportation people living in the country illegally.




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Nancy Pelosi, who on Friday called the idea “unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful


Is it not unworthy of high ranking officials to disrespect and lie about the president of the United States???


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to address who we are — a nation of immigrants.”


A nation of immigrants??? That's liberal hogwash. Our foundations were laid down by SETTLERS, who built the greatest nation on earth, so much so, that immigrants, legaal AND illegal, will spend lots of money, leave their families, take great personal risks such as child sex trafficking, rape, and murder, wait for long periods of time, they will do anything to immigrate to the great country that those SETTLERS built.


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The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has been taxing the system, forcing ICE to set free more than 125,000 people as they await court hearings — a practice Trump has derided as “catch and release.”


Some of those "poor" people in need are dropping small children onto concertina wire traps to draw the border agents away so that they can enter illegally.


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In response, some cities have banished ICE from jails where agents could easily pick up immigration violators.


Then banish their federal dollars.

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Apr 13, 2019 20:04:55   #
maryjane
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump says he intends to dump asylum seekers in democrat districts...I assume as some form of punishment for not bowing to his will. This should make the far right happy--I can imagine PR doing a little jig--but I think Trump will find is that Americans will do what they can to help these people out. What this is going to show is how petty Trump and his follower are and just how BIG this country really is.

https://www.apnews.com/0596f544fe0646ada2a6383e23f74e83

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he is strongly considering releasing “I*****l I*******ts” into Democratic strongholds to punish congressional foes for inaction on the border— just hours after White House and Homeland Security officials insisted the idea had been rejected as fast as it had been proposed.

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous i*********n l*ws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing I*****l I*******ts in Sanctuary Cities only,” Trump tweeted. He added that, “The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy - so this should make them very happy!”

He later told reporters that he was “strongly looking at” the idea of releasing migrant families into those communities, though there were no immediate plans in place to implement Trump’s threat.

“They’re always saying they have open arms. Let’s see if they have open arms,” he said.

The reversal, which appeared to catch officials at the Department of Homeland Security off guard, came as critics were blasting news that the White House had at least twice considered a plan to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities, using migrants as pawns to go after political opponents.

Before Trump’s comments, both the Department of Homeland Security and a White House official had insisted in nearly identical statements that that plan had been floated but then flatly rejected.

But not, apparently, by the president, who emphatically revived the idea.

“Sanctuary cities” are places where local authorities do not cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, denying information or resources that would help ICE round up for deportation people living in the country illegally.

They include New York City and San Francisco, home city of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who on Friday called the idea “unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face as a country, as a people, to address who we are — a nation of immigrants.”

The idea of pressing immigration authorities to embrace the plan was discussed in November and then again in February as the Trump administration struggled with a surge of migrants at the border, according to three people who spoke on condition of anonymity to outline private conversations. Homeland Security and ICE lawyers quickly rejected the proposal, according to the people, and it was dropped on the grounds that it was complicated, too expensive and a misuse of funds, two of the people said.

The plan, which was first reported by the Washington Post, is one of many ideas considered by an increasingly frustrated White House in recent months as Trump has railed against the growing number of Central American migrant families crossing the southern border and looked for new ways to increase leverage on congressional Democrats to change laws that Trump insists are making the problem worse.

Officials say they are running out of options, and have proposed and recycled numerous ideas that have never come to fruition. Trump in recent weeks has discussed the idea of renewing his administration’s controversial family separation policy.

There were at least two versions of the sanctuary city plan that were considered, according to one of the people familiar with the effort. One would have moved people who had already been detained and were being held elsewhere to places with Democratic opponents of the president, while the other would have t***sported migrants apprehended at the border directly to San Francisco, New York City, Chicago and other spots.

ICE arrests people in the U.S. illegally and also manages migrants who present themselves at border crossings and ask for asylum. The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has been taxing the system, forcing ICE to set free more than 125,000 people as they await court hearings — a practice Trump has derided as “catch and release.” With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration has also been busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities such as Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle.

Federal court rules prohibit the detention of children longer than 20 days.

Revelation of the “sanctuary cities” plan drew immediate condemnation from Pelosi and other Democrats.

Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, who chairs the House Homeland Security committee, said: “The fact that this idea was even considered - not once but twice - serves as a reminder that the Trump Administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty. ”

T***sporting large groups of immigrants to distant cities would be expensive and burdensome for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is already strapped for cash. The agency has said it doesn’t have the resources for immigrants processed by the Border Patrol and Border Patrol in most southern border sectors and is now instead releasing families after a health screening and criminal background check, leaving local nonprofits to help them make travel arrangements.

Flights chartered by ICE cost about $7,785 per flight hour, according to the agency. They require multiple staffers, including an officer who coordinates, several others who fly and monitor passengers and an in-flight medical professional. The agency also uses commercial flights but requires that migrants to pay for those. It’s unclear if that would be the case for families, who usually arrive with no money and rely on relatives already in the U.S. to pay for t***sportation.

Still, many “sanctuary” communities would likely welcome the immigrants in question and have nonprofit legal groups that could help them strengthen their legal cases to stay in the country.

Matt Albence, ICE’s new acting director, denied the White House pressured immigration officials to implement the idea when he was serving as deputy.

“I was asked my opinion and provided it, and my advice was heeded,” he said in a statement.

The Department of Health and Human Services said this week that it had started scouting vacant properties that could be turned into facilities for holding migrant children in several cities, including Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and San Antonio.

Those facilities would be licensed by each state and likely take several months to be approved and opened, separating them from the rapidly expanding emergency shelter at Homestead, Florida, and the now-closed tent facility at Tornillo, Texas.

The Defense Department has also been reviewing a number of military bases to find a location that can house up to 5,000 unaccompanied migrant children as the U.S. braces for a surge of people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border this spring. Health and Human Services submitted the request for space last month, as Homeland Security leaders warned that tens of thousands of families were crossing the border each month. HHS has traditionally been responsible for providing temporary shelter to unaccompanied migrant.

ICE is tasked with arresting people living in the country illegally — including some who have been here for decades. Under the Trump administration, ICE has significantly stepped up arrests, including of people who have no U.S. criminal records.

In response, some cities have banished ICE from jails where agents could easily pick up immigration violators. Police in New York, Baltimore and Seattle rarely, if ever, disclose information about when suspected criminals in the U.S. illegally will be released from custody.

Democrats have said they will tackle immigration bills, possibly as soon as they return from their spring recess, and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has indicated an interest in working on the issue.
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The democrats are going to do NOTHING but continue to increase every aspect of immigration including i******s. They want to give them all ammesty and an easy path to citizenship and they will agree to nothing until they get their ammesty; nevertheless the dems are going to give little or nothing in exchange. They are liars and c***ts, the kind to say okay we'll end chain migration and the visa lottery when what they are NOT saying is that the visa lottery visas will simply be given to a different group such as TPS and that chain migration will end but not until everyone (millions) on the waiting list have moved intyo the US (nany years). So, the dems get what they want without giving up anything or doing anything about the border and i******s or curbing legal immigration at all. And the GOP will help them make such a deal, knowing it is a s**m on the American people. None of them can be trusted to fight for us OR for keeping our America American. Today, we have unknown tens of millions of foreign noncitizens living here at our expense. Out of the million plus new legal immigrants we get EVERY YEAR only a small percentage ever become US citizens. So, we have millions and millions of foreigners living here whose only stake in the USA is to get all they can materially for themselves, no matter the cost to this country or to we citizens.

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Apr 13, 2019 20:11:56   #
maryjane
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually they don't, but Trump needs to be really really careful with breaking laws right now.


You are right, he doesn't need to do this. I can only imagine his frustration, being president of the USA, but powerless to prevent i*****l a***ns invading this country, powerless to prevent them grabbing and exploiting every possible advantage here. Oh, yes, I can understand his frustration. But, since there is just nothing he is going to be allowed to do, he must accept that and just put the blame where it belongs, on congress.

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Apr 14, 2019 09:31:17   #
TrueAmerican
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump says he intends to dump asylum seekers in democrat districts...I assume as some form of punishment for not bowing to his will. This should make the far right happy--I can imagine PR doing a little jig--but I think Trump will find is that Americans will do what they can to help these people out. What this is going to show is how petty Trump and his follower are and just how BIG this country really is.

https://www.apnews.com/0596f544fe0646ada2a6383e23f74e83

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he is strongly considering releasing “I*****l I*******ts” into Democratic strongholds to punish congressional foes for inaction on the border— just hours after White House and Homeland Security officials insisted the idea had been rejected as fast as it had been proposed.

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous i*********n l*ws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing I*****l I*******ts in Sanctuary Cities only,” Trump tweeted. He added that, “The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy - so this should make them very happy!”

He later told reporters that he was “strongly looking at” the idea of releasing migrant families into those communities, though there were no immediate plans in place to implement Trump’s threat.

“They’re always saying they have open arms. Let’s see if they have open arms,” he said.

The reversal, which appeared to catch officials at the Department of Homeland Security off guard, came as critics were blasting news that the White House had at least twice considered a plan to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities, using migrants as pawns to go after political opponents.

Before Trump’s comments, both the Department of Homeland Security and a White House official had insisted in nearly identical statements that that plan had been floated but then flatly rejected.

But not, apparently, by the president, who emphatically revived the idea.

“Sanctuary cities” are places where local authorities do not cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, denying information or resources that would help ICE round up for deportation people living in the country illegally.

They include New York City and San Francisco, home city of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who on Friday called the idea “unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face as a country, as a people, to address who we are — a nation of immigrants.”

The idea of pressing immigration authorities to embrace the plan was discussed in November and then again in February as the Trump administration struggled with a surge of migrants at the border, according to three people who spoke on condition of anonymity to outline private conversations. Homeland Security and ICE lawyers quickly rejected the proposal, according to the people, and it was dropped on the grounds that it was complicated, too expensive and a misuse of funds, two of the people said.

The plan, which was first reported by the Washington Post, is one of many ideas considered by an increasingly frustrated White House in recent months as Trump has railed against the growing number of Central American migrant families crossing the southern border and looked for new ways to increase leverage on congressional Democrats to change laws that Trump insists are making the problem worse.

Officials say they are running out of options, and have proposed and recycled numerous ideas that have never come to fruition. Trump in recent weeks has discussed the idea of renewing his administration’s controversial family separation policy.

There were at least two versions of the sanctuary city plan that were considered, according to one of the people familiar with the effort. One would have moved people who had already been detained and were being held elsewhere to places with Democratic opponents of the president, while the other would have t***sported migrants apprehended at the border directly to San Francisco, New York City, Chicago and other spots.

ICE arrests people in the U.S. illegally and also manages migrants who present themselves at border crossings and ask for asylum. The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has been taxing the system, forcing ICE to set free more than 125,000 people as they await court hearings — a practice Trump has derided as “catch and release.” With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration has also been busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities such as Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle.

Federal court rules prohibit the detention of children longer than 20 days.

Revelation of the “sanctuary cities” plan drew immediate condemnation from Pelosi and other Democrats.

Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, who chairs the House Homeland Security committee, said: “The fact that this idea was even considered - not once but twice - serves as a reminder that the Trump Administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty. ”

T***sporting large groups of immigrants to distant cities would be expensive and burdensome for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is already strapped for cash. The agency has said it doesn’t have the resources for immigrants processed by the Border Patrol and Border Patrol in most southern border sectors and is now instead releasing families after a health screening and criminal background check, leaving local nonprofits to help them make travel arrangements.

Flights chartered by ICE cost about $7,785 per flight hour, according to the agency. They require multiple staffers, including an officer who coordinates, several others who fly and monitor passengers and an in-flight medical professional. The agency also uses commercial flights but requires that migrants to pay for those. It’s unclear if that would be the case for families, who usually arrive with no money and rely on relatives already in the U.S. to pay for t***sportation.

Still, many “sanctuary” communities would likely welcome the immigrants in question and have nonprofit legal groups that could help them strengthen their legal cases to stay in the country.

Matt Albence, ICE’s new acting director, denied the White House pressured immigration officials to implement the idea when he was serving as deputy.

“I was asked my opinion and provided it, and my advice was heeded,” he said in a statement.

The Department of Health and Human Services said this week that it had started scouting vacant properties that could be turned into facilities for holding migrant children in several cities, including Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and San Antonio.

Those facilities would be licensed by each state and likely take several months to be approved and opened, separating them from the rapidly expanding emergency shelter at Homestead, Florida, and the now-closed tent facility at Tornillo, Texas.

The Defense Department has also been reviewing a number of military bases to find a location that can house up to 5,000 unaccompanied migrant children as the U.S. braces for a surge of people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border this spring. Health and Human Services submitted the request for space last month, as Homeland Security leaders warned that tens of thousands of families were crossing the border each month. HHS has traditionally been responsible for providing temporary shelter to unaccompanied migrant.

ICE is tasked with arresting people living in the country illegally — including some who have been here for decades. Under the Trump administration, ICE has significantly stepped up arrests, including of people who have no U.S. criminal records.

In response, some cities have banished ICE from jails where agents could easily pick up immigration violators. Police in New York, Baltimore and Seattle rarely, if ever, disclose information about when suspected criminals in the U.S. illegally will be released from custody.

Democrats have said they will tackle immigration bills, possibly as soon as they return from their spring recess, and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has indicated an interest in working on the issue.
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Ignorance is contagious --- you need to quit reading the kev-bois posts !!!!!!

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Apr 14, 2019 10:13:59   #
Lonewolf
 
maryjane wrote:
The democrats are going to do NOTHING but continue to increase every aspect of immigration including i******s. They want to give them all ammesty and an easy path to citizenship and they will agree to nothing until they get their ammesty; nevertheless the dems are going to give little or nothing in exchange. They are liars and c***ts, the kind to say okay we'll end chain migration and the visa lottery when what they are NOT saying is that the visa lottery visas will simply be given to a different group such as TPS and that chain migration will end but not until everyone (millions) on the waiting list have moved intyo the US (nany years). So, the dems get what they want without giving up anything or doing anything about the border and i******s or curbing legal immigration at all. And the GOP will help them make such a deal, knowing it is a s**m on the American people. None of them can be trusted to fight for us OR for keeping our America American. Today, we have unknown tens of millions of foreign noncitizens living here at our expense. Out of the million plus new legal immigrants we get EVERY YEAR only a small percentage ever become US citizens. So, we have millions and millions of foreigners living here whose only stake in the USA is to get all they can materially for themselves, no matter the cost to this country or to we citizens.
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Many have fought and died for this country

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Apr 14, 2019 23:22:33   #
F.D.R.
 
Okay Pete, how many of these families should we put you down for?

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