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Bob Livingston, on the looming currency switch.
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Apr 10, 2019 20:56:34   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
Indeed. Strong, independent nations are peopled by strong, independent people.

Anathema to the g*******t vampires and their cannibal puppets.


True. And when a nation is self sufficient, the NWO currency manipulation means nothing.

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Apr 10, 2019 22:23:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/gold-standard

One of the things mentioned in G. Edward Griffin's book, titled, "The Creature From Jekyll Island" is if all nations could be forced to remain on a gold standard there would be no more wars. No country has the resources to engage in war without resorting to fiat money.


Hmmm...I guess the world proved that won't work.

Seriously, screw what they do...gold is truly a people's currency. They and IT determine the value of the people's currency...not a few uber-rich, cloistered, cannibalistic vampires who believe fetal stem cell smoothies will keep them young.

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Apr 10, 2019 22:27:59   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:
True. And when a nation is self sufficient, the NWO currency manipulation means nothing.


I live in Nevada...

There's GOLD in them thar hills!



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Apr 10, 2019 22:29:29   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
I live in Nevada...

There's GOLD in them thar hills!


Yee haw, brother, let's head on out

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Apr 10, 2019 22:31:07   #
PeterS
 
cSc61 wrote:
Oh I get it ... you must be one of those social agitators. Nobody could possibly be this obtuse 100% of the time.

So how am I being obtuse? Are you saying you do want a federal takeover of our banking system?

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Apr 10, 2019 22:49:22   #
Richard Rowland
 
PeterS wrote:
So how am I being obtuse? Are you saying you do want a federal takeover of our banking system?


C'mon, Pete, you're attempting to subvert the point that the Fed Reserve needs to be dumped. Anyone who would advocates for it must be in banking. Are you into banking, Pete?

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Apr 10, 2019 23:02:00   #
PeterS
 
BigMike wrote:
Um...Pete. The Constitution charges the Treasury with responsibility for the currency. It's one of the few things the federal government is supposed to do.

During the Wilson administration (Wilson was a progressive...check it yourself) we gave that responsibility to the Fed.

That note in your wallet is based on debt. The Fed creates money from NOTHING and charges the government interest...meaning every dollar they spend decreases the value of the money in your wallet.

The Fed was imported from Europe...

Now, if you're honest you'll investigate the history of central banking in Europe and see just how bloody and devious it's been...

Jolly Old England's gift to us once a generation or so passed...

We always have to relearn the same old lessons...Sigh!

An ounce of gold in Roman times would get you a fine toga...

An ounce of gold would do the same now...

...except, gold is being kept artificially low.

If we went to a gold standard the ring on your finger would suddenly be worth 5 to 10k per ounce.
Um...Pete. The Constitution charges the Treasury w... (show quote)

Why do you assume that the founders had it all figured out? You are forgetting that banks used to print their own currency and that there were crashes and depressions every ten years or so.

As is, the head of the Fed and the board of directors are all appointed by the president and approved by Congress. How can you have a private institution when all the principle positions are appointed by the government? Over the past thirty years, we had the longest continuous periods of growth in our history. As for gold, unless you are hoarding it why do you care about its price?

As for who owns the Federal Reserve--stock can't be traded. It doesn't give the member banks v****g rights. These pay out dividends mandated by law to be 6 percent. But the banks must return all profits, after paying expenses, to the U.S. Treasury.

And this is from an article on the Federal Reserve: Some observers mistakenly consider the Federal Reserve to be a private entity because the Reserve Banks are organized similarly to private corporations. For instance, each of the 12 Reserve Banks operates within its own particular geographic area, or District, of the United States, and each is separately incorporated and has its own board of directors. Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in their District's Reserve Bank. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. In fact, the Reserve Banks are required by law to t***sfer net earnings to the U.S. Treasury, after providing for all necessary expenses of the Reserve Banks, legally required dividend payments, and maintaining a limited balance in a surplus fund.

Stock ownership is limited to the bank within the District. This would make it extremely difficult for anyone or banking system, to take control of the Federal Reserve. If this isn't the case then please explain...

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Apr 10, 2019 23:27:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:
Yee haw, brother, let's head on out


I could probably find it in the hills behind my house...especially after a few wet years. Heh! Heh!

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Apr 10, 2019 23:30:05   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Why do you assume that the founders had it all figured out? You are forgetting that banks used to print their own currency and that there were crashes and depressions every ten years or so.

As is, the head of the Fed and the board of directors are all appointed by the president and approved by Congress. How can you have a private institution when all the principle positions are appointed by the government? Over the past thirty years, we had the longest continuous periods of growth in our history. As for gold, unless you are hoarding it why do you care about its price?

As for who owns the Federal Reserve--stock can't be traded. It doesn't give the member banks v****g rights. These pay out dividends mandated by law to be 6 percent. But the banks must return all profits, after paying expenses, to the U.S. Treasury.

And this is from an article on the Federal Reserve: Some observers mistakenly consider the Federal Reserve to be a private entity because the Reserve Banks are organized similarly to private corporations. For instance, each of the 12 Reserve Banks operates within its own particular geographic area, or District, of the United States, and each is separately incorporated and has its own board of directors. Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in their District's Reserve Bank. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. In fact, the Reserve Banks are required by law to t***sfer net earnings to the U.S. Treasury, after providing for all necessary expenses of the Reserve Banks, legally required dividend payments, and maintaining a limited balance in a surplus fund.

Stock ownership is limited to the bank within the District. This would make it extremely difficult for anyone or banking system, to take control of the Federal Reserve. If this isn't the case then please explain...
Why do you assume that the founders had it all fig... (show quote)


Pete. The Fed is a rip-off. Period. What they tell you and what the effect of fiat currency is on POOR people are two very different things. Grade school larnin' won't tell the story.

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Apr 10, 2019 23:31:57   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
I could probably find it in the hills behind my house...especially after a few wet years. Heh! Heh!


NICE!

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Apr 11, 2019 00:12:51   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:
NICE!


Oh yeah! Have a gold pan and a riffle box. Muriatic acid. A jar of mercury. A few crucibles. Gas mask and goggles. Oxygen pellets.

Now I need a nice metal detector...with instructions. My Pa bought the weirdest stuff at yard sales.

I also have a tow dolly I was thinking of repurposing to hunt for iron meteorites out on the playas. I think I can come up with a very professional and powerful 12 volt electromagnet wide as the dolly with a rake to stir up the surface rocks a bit. Heh! Heh!

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Apr 11, 2019 00:16:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:
Yee haw, brother, let's head on out


How'd the song go...

"I'm a wagged, wugged wover

of the wiwd and woowwy west

and of all the things I wike about it

I wike gowd the best...

Oh Suzanna! Don't you cwy fow me...!"

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Apr 11, 2019 00:36:45   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
Oh yeah! Have a gold pan and a riffle box. Muriatic acid. A jar of mercury. A few crucibles. Gas mask and goggles. Oxygen pellets.

Now I need a nice metal detector...with instructions. My Pa bought the weirdest stuff at yard sales.

I also have a tow dolly I was thinking of repurposing to hunt for iron meteorites out on the playas. I think I can come up with a very professional and powerful 12 volt electromagnet wide as the dolly with a rake to stir up the surface rocks a bit. Heh! Heh!
Oh yeah! Have a gold pan and a riffle box. Muriati... (show quote)


You're a maniac

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Apr 11, 2019 00:37:44   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
How'd the song go...

"I'm a wagged, wugged wover

of the wiwd and woowwy west

and of all the things I wike about it

I wike gowd the best...

Oh Suzanna! Don't you cwy fow me...!"


AND you play the banjo

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Apr 11, 2019 00:48:49   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:
AND you play the banjo


Um...the wabbit pwayed the banjo...

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