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Apr 11, 2019 22:16:27   #
teabag09
 
slatten49 wrote:
If it's any consolation to you, today I paid the RV mechanic $2300 for a new refrigerator/freezer for our motor home.


At least you got something for your $$$. I'm paying $10,000 to have a new roof, rafters etc. on part of my house because of shoddy work done 5 years ago which is allowing the roof to leak. In addition I paid today $500.00 to replace a bad drive shaft sensor, new battery, wipers and inspection on my wife car which she hasn't driven in a year. Last week almost $1,000.00 to replace a front wheel bearing and front drive shaft in my 4x4 explorer. Thank goodness I've saved my money and can afford this. But I hope this is the end of the drain for awhile. Fortunately I was able to get us debt free before I retired so we are other than monthly bills and taxes we are pay as we go.

Do you use your RV much. I hope so. Get on the road and enjoy life. Mike

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Apr 11, 2019 22:29:29   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
teabag09 wrote:
At least you got something for your $$$. I'm paying $10,000 to have a new roof, rafters etc. on part of my house because of shoddy work done 5 years ago which is allowing the roof to leak. In addition I paid today $500.00 to replace a bad drive shaft sensor, new battery, wipers and inspection on my wife car which she hasn't driven in a year. Last week almost $1,000.00 to replace a front wheel bearing and front drive shaft in my 4x4 explorer. Thank goodness I've saved my money and can afford this. But I hope this is the end of the drain for awhile. Fortunately I was able to get us debt free before I retired so we are other than monthly bills and taxes we are pay as we go.

Do you use your RV much. I hope so. Get on the road and enjoy life. Mike
At least you got something for your $$$. I'm payin... (show quote)

Sorry to read of your recent expenses, Mike. I don't feel bad about our refrigerator/freezer replacement expense now.

We use our bus, but not as much as before we retired out here in the country on Lake Whitney. Like you, we retired debt-free and with substantial retirement funds. We have a cross-country trip planned to Camp Lejeune, North Carolina in September...with several other stops/visits before hitting the Atlantic coast. During the next few months, we will doing some camping around Central Texas with other RV-ers.

Hopefully, you've seen the end of your repair/maintenance expenses.

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Apr 11, 2019 22:38:45   #
teabag09
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sorry to read of your recent expenses, Mike. I don't feel bad about our refrigerator/freezer replacement expense now.

We use our bus, but not as much as before we retired out here in the country on Lake Whitney. Like you, we retired debt-free and with substantial retirement funds. We have a cross-country trip planned to Camp Lejeune, North Carolina in September...with several other stops/visits before hitting the Atlantic coast. During the next few months, we will doing some camping around Central Texas with other RV-ers.

Hopefully, you've seen the end of your repair/maintenance expenses.
Sorry to read of your recent expenses, Mike. I do... (show quote)


SEMPER FI! Thanks. It'll still be humid as hell in September, you're going to need that fridge/freezer. Be sure to get your A/C charged before you come. I live a few hundred miles up the coast. My Dad did Camp Lejeune. He's now parked at Quantico. Mike

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Apr 11, 2019 22:49:27   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
teabag09 wrote:
SEMPER FI! Thanks. It'll still be humid as hell in September, you're going to need that fridge/freezer. Be sure to get your A/C charged before you come. I live a few hundred miles up the coast. My Dad did Camp Lejeune. He's now parked at Quantico. Mike

One of my granddaughters and her young Marine Corporal are stationed there. He just recently got back from Norway. They have our youngest great-grandchild, Kinsley Mae...now 9 months old We last visited them briefly this past September.

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Apr 11, 2019 23:35:08   #
teabag09
 
slatten49 wrote:
One of my granddaughters and her young Marine Corporal are stationed there. He just recently got back from Norway. They have our youngest great-grandchild, Kinsley Mae...now 9 months old We last visited them briefly this past September.


Have a great trip as I know it will be, being able to hold and kiss Kinsley Mae as well as being surrounded by so many Jarheads, You'll feel right at home. Watch the water. I've heard there have been problems in that dept., may have been fixed by now, I don't know. Mike

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Apr 12, 2019 09:29:10   #
bahmer
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Well, chalk another one up for the Supreme Court, because that's where this is headed:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/trump-tax-returns-congress-1342027

“The legal implications of this request could affect protections of all Americans against politically-motivated disclosures of personal tax information, regardless of which party is in power,” Mnuchin said. He is consulting with the Justice Department “to ensure that our response is fully consistent with the law and the Constitution.”

Maybe they can time it so it gets full exposure right before the next e******n.

Mmm-hmm.
Well, chalk another one up for the Supreme Court, ... (show quote)


Dems Losing Everywhere as Sec. Mnuchin Says Release of Trump’s Taxes Is a No-Go, Defying Congressional Dems’ Demands
Steve Mnuchin; Nancy PelosiPatrick Semansky / AP; Alex Edelman / Getty Images

BY MALACHI BAILEY
PUBLISHED APRIL 11, 2019 AT 1:55PM
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Democrats are continuing their political witch hunt against President Donald Trump by demanding a release of his tax returns, but U.S. Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin shut them down.

Mnuchin sent a letter to the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Rep. Richard Neal, saying the Treasury Department isn’t ready to comply with Democrats’ demand for Trump’s tax returns.

On April 3, Neal requested the tax returns and several other tax-related documents by April 10, but Mnuchin denied Neal’s request.

“The Committee requests the materials by April 10, but the Treasury Department will not be able to complete its review of your request by that date,” Mnuchin said.

Mnuchin went on to slam Democrats for their politically motivated request for confidential financial information.

The treasury secretary cited statements from the previous Republican-controlled Committee on Ways and Means, which said that such a request is an “abuse of authority” and “sets a dangerous precedent by targeting a single individual’s confidential tax returns and associated financial documents for disclosure.”

Mnuchin’s letter also highlighted some of the dangerous implications from the Democrats’ request.

“The legal implications of this request could affect protections for all American against politically-motivated disclosures of personal tax information, regardless of which party is in power,” Mnuchin wrote.

Mnuchin is right. Nobody would be safe from politically motivated, tax-related witch hunts if Democrats get their way.

And it’s undeniable that this is just another frivolous witch hunt against Trump orchestrated by far-left politicians.

If a billionaire such as Trump actually avoided paying a ludicrous amount of money in taxes, which Democrats seem to believe, tax collectors would already be hounding him.

There is no reason why the Treasury Department should give in to the left’s demand, even if Trump’s taxes are squeaky clean.

The left wouldn’t be satisfied even if they were given Trump’s tax returns, because they would move on to the next ridiculous and potentially illegal demand.

It’s time to stop playing by the left’s rules and start resisting their endless witch hunts whenever legally possible, and it looks like that’s what Mnuchin is doing.

“Given the seriousness of these issues, which bear no connection to ordinary tax administration, we have begun consultations with the Department of Justice to ensure that our response is fully consistent with the law and Constitution,” Mnuchin said.

Mnuchin gave Democrats a smackdown with the letter, but the tax controversy is far from over.

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Apr 12, 2019 15:22:36   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
slatten49 wrote:
November, 2018

Steve Rosenthal, Forbes. (I research and write on tax for the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.)

Incoming House Ways & Means Committee Chair Richard Neal (D-MA) indicated that he will request President Trump’s tax returns soon after Democrats formally take control of the House in January. Trump already has said he will try to block their release. In this matter, Neal is right. He not only has the authority to see the president’s tax returns, such a step is appropriate and necessary, as part of our checks and balances. The Constitution calls upon the House, along with the Senate, both to enact legislation and to oversee whether those laws are faithfully executed. To fulfill its oversight responsibility, I believe the House should demand the President’s tax returns.

The House effectively delegates its oversight responsibilities to its committees which can issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the executive branch. In the matter of tax returns, the law could not be more clear (see Code sec. 6103(f)): Upon written request by either the Chairman of either the House Ways and Means Committee or the Senate Finance Committee, the Treasury Secretary “shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request.” The Ways and Means Committee may share these tax returns and related information with the full House, assuming there is a legitimate purpose for doing so.

Congress gave itself the right to review any return or return information in 1924, in the aftermath of two controversies. One was the Teapot Dome scandal, where senior officials in the Harding Administration granted public oil field leases in exchange for bribes. The other involved allegations that Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon continued to own many business interests while serving in government. Some believed the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the precursor to the IRS, showed favoritism to the secretary and his businesses.

The parallels to President Trump are striking. Trump maintains a sprawling business empire, which he refuses to t***sfer to a blind trust. According to multiple published reports, the president, through his businesses, derives income from foreign governments and their lobbyists, which also may violate the Constitution’s prohibition against emoluments. The president reportedly intervened personally to block the FBI from moving its headquarters and thus opening up for commercial development a site just a few blocks from his downtown Washington hotel. The president reportedly paid little or no tax for many years, in part because of aggressive tax planning and, perhaps, tax evasion. And throughout his campaign and since his e******n, the President acknowledged that he has been under audit.

These multiple allegations raise legitimate questions about whether the president is running the government for his benefit or the public’s—or both. Is he profiting from his position? Is the public harmed? Is the IRS auditing the president’s returns appropriately—and without favoritism? Has the IRS proposed any adjustments—and has the president paid them?

To fulfill its oversight responsibility, Congress, through the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, should demand the president’s personal and business tax returns that were open for audit at the time he assumed office and the 2017 returns filed since his e******n. Neal also should request any audit records for these returns, the work papers of any audit, and any written determinations.

For nearly the past half-century, such congressional demands for p**********l tax returns have been unnecessary. In 1974, President Nixon voluntarily released his tax returns to quiet the public clamor over his reportedly low taxes. He also invited the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation to audit his tax returns after the IRS reportedly gave him a pass (and JCT determined he owed an additional $476,431 in back taxes and interest). In the years since, every President until Donald Trump voluntarily released his returns to the public and permitted them to be automatically audited by the IRS automatically audited by the IRS. As Nixon famously explained: “People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.”

Nixon was right.
November, 2018 br br Steve Rosenthal, Forbes. (I ... (show quote)




There is no law requiring it!
Also, the Supreme Court stated: The right to privacy gave a woman the right to k**l her baby. true
So, I see Trump also has a right to privacy, it's no one's business when it comes to people taxes.

If one c***ts on taxes the IRS will
put you in Sing_Sing for 20 years.

Plus the Dummy Crats would be at a loss if they did look at his taxes, one needs a 190 IQ to understand them. So it's a big waste of time.

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Apr 12, 2019 15:39:27   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
MR Mister wrote:
There is no law requiring it!
Also, the Supreme Court stated: The right to privacy gave a woman the right to k**l her baby. true
So, I see Trump also has a right to privacy, it's no one's business when it comes to people taxes.

If one c***ts on taxes the IRS will
put you in Sing_Sing for 20 years.

Plus the Dummy Crats would be at a loss if they did look at his taxes, one needs a 190 IQ to understand them. So it's a big waste of time.

Once again, from the article to which you responded...

"Congress gave itself the right to review any return or return information in 1924, in the aftermath of two controversies. One was the Teapot Dome scandal, where senior officials in the Harding Administration granted public oil field leases in exchange for bribes. The other involved allegations that Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon continued to own many business interests while serving in government. Some believed the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the precursor to the IRS, showed favoritism to the secretary and his businesses."

And...

"The House effectively delegates its oversight responsibilities to its committees which can issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the executive branch. In the matter of tax returns, the law could not be more clear (see Code sec. 6103(f)): Upon written request by either the Chairman of either the House Ways and Means Committee or the Senate Finance Committee, the Treasury Secretary 'shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request.' "

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Apr 12, 2019 16:23:28   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Once again, from the article to which you responded...

"Congress gave itself the right to review any return or return information in 1924, in the aftermath of two controversies. One was the Teapot Dome scandal, where senior officials in the Harding Administration granted public oil field leases in exchange for bribes. The other involved allegations that Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon continued to own many business interests while serving in government. Some believed the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the precursor to the IRS, showed favoritism to the secretary and his businesses."

And...

"The House effectively delegates its oversight responsibilities to its committees which can issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the executive branch. In the matter of tax returns, the law could not be more clear (see Code sec. 6103(f)): Upon written request by either the Chairman of either the House Ways and Means Committee or the Senate Finance Committee, the Treasury Secretary 'shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request.' "
Once again, from the article to which you responde... (show quote)

Republicans themselves used private tax returns for political purposes just a few years ago, and they used the very same law that Democrats are now relying on to request the last six years of Trump’s tax returns.
Back in 2013, Republicans thought the Internal Revenue Service under President Barack Obama was mistreating conservative groups that wanted to be recognized as tax-exempt nonprofits. So they asked the IRS to hand over tax information for conservative groups such as Crossroads GPS as well as a few liberal groups such as Priorities USA.

Congress has the power to ask for copies of anyone’s tax return thanks to a 1924 law enacted as a check on corruption in the executive branch.

In 2014, after getting the documents on the groups they requested, plus tax info relating to several dozen other organizations, Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee made it all public. They believed it showed that an IRS official named Lois Lerner had unfairly plotted to deny tax-exempt status to Crossroads GPS and other conservative groups. The committee included the documents as an attachment to a letter asking the Justice Department to prosecute Lerner. During a closed-door hearing, the committee’s Republicans v**ed to make the letter public.

The Justice Department declined to prosecute Lerner, and it ultimately turned out that the IRS had improperly picked on both conservative and liberal organizations.

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Apr 12, 2019 16:25:01   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Once again, from the article to which you responded...

"Congress gave itself the right to review any return or return information in 1924, in the aftermath of two controversies. One was the Teapot Dome scandal, where senior officials in the Harding Administration granted public oil field leases in exchange for bribes. The other involved allegations that Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon continued to own many business interests while serving in government. Some believed the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the precursor to the IRS, showed favoritism to the secretary and his businesses."

And...

"The House effectively delegates its oversight responsibilities to its committees which can issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the executive branch. In the matter of tax returns, the law could not be more clear (see Code sec. 6103(f)): Upon written request by either the Chairman of either the House Ways and Means Committee or the Senate Finance Committee, the Treasury Secretary 'shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request.' "
Once again, from the article to which you responde... (show quote)


Fortunately congress doesn't have the unfettered power that the IRS seems to have. LOL!

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Apr 12, 2019 17:06:01   #
emarine
 
proud republican wrote:
With all due respect,President does NOT have to release his Tax Returns..It does NOT requiered by law..





With all due respect, our President is not above our law nonmatter how hard he tries to subvert our law...



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verb
verb: subvert; 3rd person present: subverts; past tense: subverted; past participle: subverted; gerund or present participle: subverting
undermine the power and authority of (an established system or institution).
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synonyms:
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"a plot to subvert the state"
corrupt, pervert, warp, deprave, defile, debase, distort, contaminate, poison, embitter;
vitiate

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Apr 12, 2019 18:19:39   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
If it's any consolation to you, today I paid the RV mechanic $2300 for a new refrigerator/freezer for our motor home.


maybe then you could send just a smidgeon of the tremendous amounts of IOUs you wrote to me
thanking you in advance

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Apr 12, 2019 18:23:39   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
maybe then you could send just a smidgeon of the tremendous amounts of IOUs you wrote to me
thanking you in advance

I know not of which you speak, ol' feller. However, I spoke to PoppaGringo a bit earlier, and he has given up on collecting your IOUs. Instead, he decided to t***sfer them to me.

Pay up

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Apr 12, 2019 18:34:33   #
Morgan
 
padremike wrote:
Do I not recall a Congressional tax paid slush fund recently discovered and shut down that paid off sexual assault claims against Congressmen, mostly Democrats? If the allegations against Trump are true, at least he used his own money. What you don't factually know is if Trump paid the money as blackmail in the midst of a p**********l campaign, or, if he was actually sexually involved. I don't believe it makes that much difference to you does it? Of course it doesn't!


Your right it doesn't, the man proved his character to me a long time ago and has reinforced it with every new lie, I'm over Trump, he's a scummer, what really amazes me is the fact that people still follow him like possessed zombies, I don't get it.

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Apr 12, 2019 18:56:59   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
I know not of which you speak, ol' feller. However, I spoke to PoppaGringo a bit earlier, and he has given up on collecting your IOUs. Instead, he decided to t***sfer them to me.

Pay up
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now you've fast talked Papi
into your dreams


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