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Apr 8, 2019 07:30:30   #
Hug
 
The government claims a little less than one third of the land mass of the lower 48 and most of
Alaska. Why not sell a lot of that land to private citizens?

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Apr 8, 2019 08:23:40   #
Big dog
 
Hug wrote:
The government claims a little less than one third of the land mass of the lower 48 and most of
Alaska. Why not sell a lot of that land to private citizens?


The federal government is too busy stealing land from private citizens.

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Apr 8, 2019 08:59:46   #
Kevyn
 
Hug wrote:
The government claims a little less than one third of the land mass of the lower 48 and most of
Alaska. Why not sell a lot of that land to private citizens?


As citizens we all own and in many instances can use these public lands. Why on earth would you want it sold off. I enjoy using public land and the last thing I would want is for it to be sold to the highest bidder.

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Apr 8, 2019 09:12:23   #
Hug
 
Kevyn wrote:
As citizens we all own and in many instances can use these public lands. Why on earth would you want it sold off. I enjoy using public land and the last thing I would want is for it to be sold to the highest bidder.

The public does not see or use most of the land claimed by the government. Sell the part the public does not use.

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Apr 8, 2019 09:49:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Hug wrote:
The public does not see or use most of the land claimed by the government. Sell the part the public does not use.


The Govt is constantly selling some of the public lands, without much notice to the public.

However, they do have a list of land for sale, you can find it with a search of B*M. do not have a link but it is public and updated on a regular basis..

for most it is not a matter of buying the land, it is keeping the land in the public ownership...

rather then develop and mine every scrap of federal land, most want more access to the land we as a people own.. for the people, not the corporations...



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Apr 8, 2019 11:20:53   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Hug wrote:
The government claims a little less than one third of the land mass of the lower 48 and most of
Alaska. Why not sell a lot of that land to private citizens?


The federal government has already sold to states and private citizens, or given away to settlers and soldiers, more than 2/3s of the land which it owned. That process continues today.

http://congressionalresearch.com/RL34267/document.php?study=Federal+Land+Ownership+Constitutional+Authority+and+the+History+of+Acquisition+Disposal+and+Retention

This is a fairly long piece, but a good source of information for those interested.

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Apr 9, 2019 06:10:12   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
working class stiff wrote:
The federal government has already sold to states and private citizens, or given away to settlers and soldiers, more than 2/3s of the land which it owned. That process continues today.

http://congressionalresearch.com/RL34267/document.php?study=Federal+Land+Ownership+Constitutional+Authority+and+the+History+of+Acquisition+Disposal+and+Retention

This is a fairly long piece, but a good source of information for those interested.

Selling public land usually ends up with moneyed people owning it. I saw this happen in Florida with the privatization of once public beaches being closed off to the public.

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Apr 9, 2019 06:42:33   #
Dom
 
Don't pay your taxes and then see who owns your land ( the question is who owns the the land)

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Apr 9, 2019 17:46:25   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Kevyn wrote:
As citizens we all own and in many instances can use these public lands. Why on earth would you want it sold off. I enjoy using public land and the last thing I would want is for it to be sold to the highest bidder.


"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be of historic or scientific interest, that the area reserved to protect the objects be the smallest area compatible, and that monuments be designated on Federal land only."

You won't read it, but others will:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-stands-local-communities-government-overreach-land-management/

"The Antiquities Act does not give the Federal Government unlimited power to lock up millions of acres of land and water, and it’s time we ended this abusive practice."

President Donald J. Trump

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Apr 9, 2019 18:02:41   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be of historic or scientific interest, that the area reserved to protect the objects be the smallest area compatible, and that monuments be designated on Federal land only."

You won't read it, but others will:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-stands-local-communities-government-overreach-land-management/

"The Antiquities Act does not give the Federal Government unlimited power to lock up millions of acres of land and water, and it’s time we ended this abusive practice."

President Donald J. Trump
"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be... (show quote)




Larry, I do not think the vast tracts of federal land we have are due to the Antiquities act..

The far greatest parts are land which was not wanted.. after they gave miles and miles to Railroads, Towns which incorporated on routes, and homesteads, timber and mines. the land no one wanted was left in the hands of the federal Government..

Now, things have changed and we have interest in the beauty and naturalness of these lands. Let us keep these areas for the people of the United States.. Our Taxes do pay for the management and oversight of them.

Keep em for the people, not for give away to the corps..



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Apr 9, 2019 18:36:15   #
Hug
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be of historic or scientific interest, that the area reserved to protect the objects be the smallest area compatible, and that monuments be designated on Federal land only."

You won't read it, but others will:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-stands-local-communities-government-overreach-land-management/

"The Antiquities Act does not give the Federal Government unlimited power to lock up millions of acres of land and water, and it’s time we ended this abusive practice."

President Donald J. Trump
"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be... (show quote)

I agree with THE DONALD!

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Apr 9, 2019 18:37:55   #
Hug
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be of historic or scientific interest, that the area reserved to protect the objects be the smallest area compatible, and that monuments be designated on Federal land only."

You won't read it, but others will:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-stands-local-communities-government-overreach-land-management/

"The Antiquities Act does not give the Federal Government unlimited power to lock up millions of acres of land and water, and it’s time we ended this abusive practice."

President Donald J. Trump
"The Antiquities Act requires that objects be... (show quote)

I agree with THE DONALD!

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Apr 9, 2019 19:34:58   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
permafrost wrote:
Teardrop Memorial

It wasn't widely reported because it doesn't fit the narrative that Russia is our enemy. 'F**e news' isn't limited to what's reported, but includes what isn't. Misleading by omission.

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Apr 10, 2019 10:29:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
It wasn't widely reported because it doesn't fit the narrative that Russia is our enemy. 'F**e news' isn't limited to what's reported, but includes what isn't. Misleading by omission.



You are more right then wrong..

I did see a very little reporting of it, but not nearly as much as I feel it should have gotten..

I truly like that monument..

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