Richard Rowland

We must have read or heard different reports. Without being there, we're at the mercy of what others report. Many of the old-time gunslingers were made bigger than life by novelist embellishing their exploits for readers back east.

If one can believe what they read, Wild Bill Hickok was probably the best. He was ambidextrous, accurate with either hand. Tom Clavin's book titled "Wild Bill" is a good read if one likes tales of the old west.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Unless a person was there, we don't actually know.

The old west is some of my favorite.

I'll find "Wild Bill".

Did you see the series "Deadwood"?

emarine

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Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

No, I am not Hug..... but, I would expect that you would be nonplussed by others who wish to engage you in factual discussion.

John Henry Holliday, like many gunfighters, may have spread stories about their "abilities" and this was more common than one would believe. One reason, if people thought that you were faster than lightening then you could avoid many fights. But, in the case of Doc, he simply did not care.... he engaged in gunfights because he thought a quick death from a bullet might be better than waiting to die a very slow, painful death from his disease. He owned a shotgun, but he preferred a "long knife." It was with his long knife that he k**led his first man, having been drawn on.... he headed west to avoid a trial. The shootout at the OK Corral actually is history, not myth.

You may not be aware, but I love history and often find myself digging through old news articles in Library of Congress as well as the National Archives. It is at the Library of Congress that I found reports of Doc Holliday and his friends the Earps.

The person you may be thinking of is Wyatt Earp. He became nationally renowned as a flim-flam man. He would regale anyone, which included William S. Hart and Tom Mix, willing to listen with stories of the "Old West" and how he and his brothers fought for the "law" and justice. In reality, he was more of a legend in his own mind..... much like some "authorities" on OPP. In reality Wyatt was drawn to police work not because of a devotion to the law but because, during the Gilded Age when public corruption was rampant, it was an easy source of cash. As a young man, Earp was arrested for horse theft and consorting with prostitutes. He was run out of a Texas town for trying to sell a rock painted yellow as a gold brick. As for his preference, handgun or shotgun, well it was not the Smith & Wesson as claimed by some, because by 1881 the American Model and its ammunition were obsolete.... his weapon of choice was the 10-inch-barrel Colt Single Action.

Attached is a copy of the news article about the OK Coral.... this story was published in the Tombstone Nugget which was a daily paper that was printed in Tombstone during that time period. The article was reprinted in a Tucson paper, The Arizona Weekly Citizen, on October 30 1881 4 days after the shoot out happened. You can read the remainder of the article at https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015133/1881-10-30/ed-1/seq-3/ Location, column 7.

Richard Rowland

Yeah, I did. However, it just stopped in the middle of things, without a conclusion. I was a member of Netflix and was watching it on DVDs being sent me. I, think, I received the whole caboodle of DVDs featuring the show.

The whole thing ended a bit after the guy, I'll call him Goldfinger, for I don't recall any of the names, came to Deadwood to get the rights to a gold strike away from the widow whose husband was murdered. If you recall, Goldfinger's bodyguard had a knockdown fight to the death with the big guy from the saloon.

The bodyguard had his eye gouged out. I thought after that, Goldfinger would get his comeuppance but the show ended in the middle of everything. Is that how you remember it?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

James Butler Hickok, a Yankee spy was known for paying off the media to print stories about his "accomplishments" most notably Harper's New Monthly Magazine who started the fable of Wild Bill. It was this rag that reported the McCanles Massacre in Rock Creek, Nebraska. The incident began when David McCanles, his brother William and several farmhands came to the station demanding payment for a property that had been bought from him. Yes, Hickok did k**l 3 people, and the Harper's New Monthly reported 10... The same rag reported that he k**led a bear with his bare hands and a bowie knife. The Harper's piece also told the story of how Hickok had pointed to a letter "O" that was "no bigger than a man's heart." Standing some 50 yards away from his subject, Hickok "without sighting his pistol and with his eye" rang off six shots, each of them hitting the direct center of the letter. They did not print the story about how he k**led his long time friend Davis Tutt or his own deputy, Mike Williams. In the end, he was arrested many times for being a vagrant and was shot by Jack McCall.

Richard Rowland

My point, e, if there is one, isn't so much about the actual acts, but about the lack of concern on the part of the populace. However, I did read somewhere that a religious group had prevailed on the government to ease up on the Native Americans, but I don't recall which religion.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

George Hearst was the goldfinger character played by Gerold McRaney.

How the series ended, was extremely disappointing, right when the Chinese and Pinkertons and others were gearing up for the boiling kettle that Deadwood was becoming.

The best series I've ever watched.

Richard Rowland

Everything here is in Tom Clavin's book, except paying off the media. I don't buy that. From what I've read there were plenty of dime novel authors eager to hear and print the exploits of Hickok and others. I don't think Hickok would have to pay anyone, and besides, he, as were many of those times was usually short of funds.

However, later in life, according to the book, Buffalo Bill (William Cody)formed a stage act that performed in New York, and other eastern cities, that included Wild Bill. The show probably paid media to be mentioned.

Richard Rowland

The last piece I read, is that the Native American population was reduced to around 238,000 from over 5 million souls. The so-called genocide, as you so casually put it, doesn't have to wipe out an intire race to be considered genocide.

However, the intent was pointing out the apathy of the populace that usually takes place in these situations.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I know that Clavin produced (or helped) 16 books.... but, you do realize that there are other authors that have explored the life and times of the "wild West?" It is always wise to expand your research.... unless of course you are an individual that hears what they want to hear and ignores the rest. I was taught to gather as much information as possible prior to staking my intellectual integrity and swearing that only one opinion is unerring.

Richard Rowland

In my long years, I've read different reports on many things, however, I don't purposely decide to follow up on a topic. If something tweaks my interest and it happens to be related to something already read, then I suppose that could be considered coincidental research.

As for hearing only what I wanna hear, yeah, I listen to both sides and dismiss what doesn't fit with my philosophy. Anything unusual about that, here on this forum?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

So, it would seem that your interest in the "Wild West" is OBE.... yet, you are the one who introduced the subject on this thread.

When I approach a topic, I go into it without an argument. I have "no dog" in the fight. Then I research, even if it is an old and tired premise..new information is being uncovered daily. This is the only way I can retain an unbiased view and submit facts as they become available. I often try to find fault with my philosophies and assumptions..... I have no illusion that I am always right, so before I provide my two cents worth, it is actually researched from all angles.

Learning is a continuous effort not an emotional response that supports long ago formed ideas or world-views. My Poppa was a teacher.... a fine man with much commonsense. He told me when I was about 3 about realities of life... and that reality is simple, we as human are often more wrong about everything than we are correct. That teaching moment came in the form of a question: "Steve is very shy and withdrawn, invariably helpful but with little interest in people or in the world of reality. A meek and tidy soul, he has a need for order and structure, and a passion for detail. Is Steve more likely to be a librarian or a farmer?" The lesson, observe caution, do not judge in a vacuum. The result would be living with a simplified and more coherent view of the world. We, most humans, do not often consider the reliability of what we are given as long as it makes a good, coherent story and supports our philosophies and world-view.

whole2th

The evidence was trumped up. "Six million" is a mythical figure--published over 200 times in news in the period 1905 to 1939.

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My own discoveries about the holocaust (TM) myths followed from discovering that the official narratives about 9-11 Helluvah**x (TM) are promulgated by what I call a "kosher nostra"--a cabal of Jews/neocons that has an agenda of world domination by way of deception.

Control of media, government, courts gives this kosher nostra advantages that are forbidden of gentiles.

Outright lies are the stock in trade.

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