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Apr 2, 2019 22:25:21   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Or, more specifically this: Even though he was thoroughly investigated and not charged.... Wait a minute, are we talking about Obama or Trump? I'm confused.


If it was Obama, you will say "deep state", if it was Trump, you will say he was 100% innocent all along. There, have I simplified it any for you? You're welcome.

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Apr 3, 2019 01:28:38   #
Carol Kelly
 
slatten49 wrote:
OK...then, 8-10 B******i investigations without desired results was a prime example of "willful ignorance."


You should not bring B******i into this discussion. That was a very Black time for most Americans although you are apparently not among them.

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Apr 3, 2019 01:46:10   #
Carol Kelly
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Even though EVERYTHING you seem to think he did that you would claim was criminal in nature was thoroughly investigated and nothing charged already. You still hold onto that shred of hope that you will see Obama jailed even if he didn't do anything criminal.


Obama was never thoroughly investigated, Mr. Smart Pants. He did wh**ever he pleased and no one spoke out. And yes, I will hold onto that until he’s made to answer for the damage he caused. If Trump had had half the cooperation that Obama had, he could have moved mountains.

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Apr 3, 2019 01:52:55   #
Carol Kelly
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Or, more specifically this: Even though he was thoroughly investigated and not charged.... Wait a minute, are we talking about Obama or Trump? I'm confused.


Or like Hilary is so innocent. Only because they’re democrats do they get a free ride all over us.

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Apr 3, 2019 02:05:01   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Obama was never thoroughly investigated, Mr. Smart Pants. He did wh**ever he pleased and no one spoke out. And yes, I will hold onto that until he’s made to answer for the damage he caused. If Trump had had half the cooperation that Obama had, he could have moved mountains.


Wrong on ALL accounts but then since the only sources you will believe are the very propaganda machine you are getting the information from... Not much help for you.

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Apr 3, 2019 07:43:00   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You should not bring B******i into this discussion. That was a very Black time for most Americans although you are apparently not among them.

Carol, it was a response clearly warranted by your "investigating an investigation" comment.

To suggest I did/do not anguish our loss at B******i is a grave error on your part. That tragedy brought back memories of the 1983 Beirut USMC Marine Barracks bombings, where 238 U.S. Troops and over 60 civilians lost their lives. As a Marine who had friends there, that remains imbeded in my mind.

https://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/article/20121104/LIFESTYLE/311049866

"While the B******i attack was certainly a tragedy, and the possibility of a cover-up of what was initially known by the administration is still open to question, it pales in comparison with the errors in judgment by the Reagan administration that led to the Beirut bombing of 29 years ago and blatant cover-up that followed."

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Apr 3, 2019 08:54:31   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
slatten49 wrote:
OK...then, 8-10 B******i investigations without desired results was a prime example of "willful ignorance."


Pretty hard to investigate Bengazi or anything during the Obama administration. Why? Because he headed and controlled all information and used it to go after conservatives. Why? Simply to attempt to control our government and succeed in the Cabal's stated efforts to make USA a dumping ground for the world

Why do all the democrats that have proven to be part of this effort fight so hard now? Because they simply do not want to go to jail. They lost their safety net with Hillary's loss.

President Trump has everything now and the days of potential prosecutions go up as the majority of Americans now know and believe that the Hillary and democrat power brokers had more colluding than any republican. That includes Trump.
Just look at Joe Biden. He is entangled in bribery to get his family to be given by China and the Ukraine over 2.1 Billion dollars. All that hidden by OhB is now visible and the can is now open.

The way democrats deflect from what you call "willful ignorance" is explain the results of their work as "Unintended consequences" of their schemes to deceive the general population.

Those days are disappearing quickly.

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Apr 3, 2019 10:26:02   #
moldyoldy
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Pretty hard to investigate Bengazi or anything during the Obama administration. Why? Because he headed and controlled all information and used it to go after conservatives. Why? Simply to attempt to control our government and succeed in the Cabal's stated efforts to make USA a dumping ground for the world

Why do all the democrats that have proven to be part of this effort fight so hard now? Because they simply do not want to go to jail. They lost their safety net with Hillary's loss.

President Trump has everything now and the days of potential prosecutions go up as the majority of Americans now know and believe that the Hillary and democrat power brokers had more colluding than any republican. That includes Trump.
Just look at Joe Biden. He is entangled in bribery to get his family to be given by China and the Ukraine over 2.1 Billion dollars. All that hidden by OhB is now visible and the can is now open.

The way democrats deflect from what you call "willful ignorance" is explain the results of their work as "Unintended consequences" of their schemes to deceive the general population.

Those days are disappearing quickly.
Pretty hard to investigate Bengazi or anything dur... (show quote)


I seem to remember Trey Gowdy heading up about nine repeated investigations, with the same results. How many years, how many dollars? How many times getting the same information, but hoping to get different answers.

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Apr 3, 2019 10:42:07   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I seem to remember Trey Gowdy heading up about nine repeated investigations, with the same results. How many years, how many dollars? How many times getting the same information, but hoping to get different answers.


When someone knows that a situation like an ambassador's death is covered up by a President and Sec of State, it is well worth finding out why they felt they must do that.

Thus, in this case, Trey Gowdy felt for sure something was wrong in DC and knew he needed to get control of the information that HRC and OhB were hiding.

In our country, that generally takes an e******n and an informed v**er population. Part of the Federalists papers explains why there is oversight authority in the legislative branch. Trey exercised his authority under the constitution in an attempt (1) to drill down far enough to find this reason and (2) to help inform the population as to potential illegal action in the executive branch and to v**e for a situation that would help find the answer.

I would submit that it is not willful Ignorance that creates this divide. Liberals push feelings to define morality and Republicans push facts to define morality in most situations. Thus, if one wants feelings to solve problems, they ignore facts and vice versa. Of course, one behavior does not dominate 100% of the time. Both parties will move back and forth from feelings to facts in an effort to gain majority in the v**es of the elected representatives or v****g population.

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Apr 3, 2019 10:46:04   #
moldyoldy
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
When someone knows that a situation like an ambassador's death is covered up by a President and Sec of State, it is well worth finding out why they felt they must do that.

Thus, in this case, Trey Gowdy felt for sure something was wrong in DC and knew he needed to get control of the information that HRC and OhB were hiding.

In our country, that generally takes an e******n and an informed v**er population. Part of the Federalists papers explains why there is oversight authority in the legislative branch. Trey exercised his authority under the constitution in an attempt (1) to drill down far enough to find this reason and (2) to help inform the population as to potential illegal action in the executive branch and to v**e for a situation that would help find the answer.

I would submit that it is not willful Ignorance that creates this divide. Liberals push feelings to define morality and Republicans push facts to define morality in most situations. Thus, if one wants feelings to solve problems, they ignore facts and vice versa. Of course, one behavior does not dominate 100% of the time. Both parties will move back and forth from feelings to facts in an effort to gain majority in the v**es of the elected representatives or v****g population.
When someone knows that a situation like an ambass... (show quote)


Funny, how quickly he abandoned his quest after the e******n. In fact his whole political outlook seemed to change.

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Apr 3, 2019 10:50:14   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I seem to remember Trey Gowdy heading up about nine repeated investigations, with the same results. How many years, how many dollars? How many times getting the same information, but hoping to get different answers.


Good point! Lest we remember one of the definitions of ignorance is repeating/ doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.
Not exactly enthralling.

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Apr 3, 2019 11:09:24   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Funny, how quickly he abandoned his quest after the e******n. In fact his whole political outlook seemed to change.


And I think you miss the point. After 2016, Trump had all the information, however, he did not have enough of the v****g population to get a poll result like yesterday. Rasmussen's poll that shows that now the v**ers belief the democrats are the perpetrators, not the republicans. Facts are winning right now. However a mix of feel good is also being used.

If someone really wants to eliminate status quo/establishment rule, drain the swamp and return the Constitutional Republic to the people, there is a process. The republicans have moved thru gather the confidence of v**ers based on facts and then begin to take out the perpetrators. I used Biden as an example. Many came before him. Trump has over 650,000 Hillary emails and that includes what she tried to destroy. Look at what has been made public on the Steele Dossier and end results of Mueller probe as more examples of why we are living thru a process to establish our government back to the Constitutional Republic. Just think the game of Chess. One who knows the moves 20 or 30 plays before they happen wins. Coming closer and closer to "Check Mate" every day folks.

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Apr 3, 2019 11:23:36   #
moldyoldy
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
And I think you miss the point. After 2016, Trump had all the information, however, he did not have enough of the v****g population to get a poll result like yesterday. Rasmussen's poll that shows that now the v**ers belief the democrats are the perpetrators, not the republicans. Facts are winning right now. However a mix of feel good is also being used.

If someone really wants to eliminate status quo/establishment rule, drain the swamp and return the Constitutional Republic to the people, there is a process. The republicans have moved thru gather the confidence of v**ers based on facts and then begin to take out the perpetrators. I used Biden as an example. Many came before him. Trump has over 650,000 Hillary emails and that includes what she tried to destroy. Look at what has been made public on the Steele Dossier and end results of Mueller probe as more examples of why we are living thru a process to establish our government back to the Constitutional Republic. Just think the game of Chess. One who knows the moves 20 or 30 plays before they happen wins. Coming closer and closer to "Check Mate" every day folks.
And I think you miss the point. After 2016, Trump... (show quote)


It is really funny how some of you guys think trump has a brain. He is the dumbest we have ever had. He keeps saying his father was born in Germany, he was born in NY. He kept trying to say origins and instead kept saying oranges, he never did say anonymous right. Has dementia set in so soon?

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Apr 3, 2019 11:25:38   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
tactful wrote:
Good point! Lest we remember one of the definitions of ignorance is repeating/ doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.
Not exactly enthralling.


And, if you get my meaning, your comment on how quickly Trey abandoned his search, you all will realize it was just a chess game move. It is not a static board as most believe.

Every piece is in constant motion and sometimes it sits still and sometimes it moves to take opponents pieces and sometimes it brings its opponent to a stand still where any move leads to defeat and a brick wall. The "2016 Chess Game" is proceeding to that point. Soon, there will be no move possible. Check Mate.

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Apr 3, 2019 11:27:58   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
moldyoldy wrote:
It is really funny how some of you guys think trump has a brain. He is the dumbest we have ever had. He keeps saying his father was born in Germany, he was born in NY. He kept trying to say origins and instead kept saying oranges, he never did say anonymous right. Has dementia set in so soon?


He has you exactly where he wants you. Now you might actually be demonstrating "Willful Ignorance"

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