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Mar 29, 2019 10:49:51   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone under 21 years of age, while they are actively moving to change the state Constitution to allow 16-year-olds to v**e. They have banned restaurants from handing out plastic straws unless requested by the customer but have a state law shielding i*****l a***ns who have broken other laws from being handed over to the federal government for deportation.

New York passed a law allowing for a child to be k**led after it had been born. Economically, Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo’s policies against both the natural gas production in the state and prohibiting new gas pipelines from being laid have had the predictable effect of forcing the end of new building permits in the New York City suburbs allowing inexpensive natural gas hookups, due to a government-created shortage of the abundant energy source. But while the New York government is seeking to squeeze the energy pipeline, they are also moving closer to adding firearm confiscation laws to their myriad of ownership restrictions.

Meanwhile the Republican Governors of Iowa and South Dakota each signed laws which restrict a******ns. In Iowa, Governor Kim Reynolds signed a fetal heartbeat bill into law (an Iowa judge overturned it) which would have prohibited a******ns once a heartbeat could be detected. South Dakota’s Kristi Noem signed legislation requiring that a sonogram be given and the images presented to the mother prior to the performance of any a******n.

Governors of Oklahoma, South Dakota and Kentucky all signed legislation affirming citizens right to carry firearms without the need for a permit. This brings the total number of constitutional carry states to 16 nationwide — a long way from when I was the NRA state liaison in 1987 helping local Florida powerhouse lobbyist Marion Hammer pass groundbreaking concealed carry license legislation.

See a pattern?

Hard left coastal states are aggressively pushing their agendas just as conservative middle America states are seeking to expand freedom while protecting life.

While Congress has experienced frustrating gridlock where both sides of the aisle representing the left-wing coastal areas and the vast area between them respectively grapple creating government shutdowns over immigration and other policy differences, the states don’t have the same restraints.

The liberal-conservative divide that many bemoan during national e******ns demonstrates itself most clearly on issues like gun ownership and a******n.

Many pundits and commentators focus on the divide between the political parties in Congress, while, at least on the conservative side of the aisle, the people back home are electing state representatives who are far more likely to take action that reflects their constituent’s values. The genius of our constitutional government with federalism is that as originally designed this is exactly what was supposed to happen. Federal primacy was restricted and states passed legislation that would never have been able to pass Congress.

On the other hand, when the peoples of the various states finally decided that they no longer shared values with their neighbors and that their differences had become irreconcilable, brother fought brother in a four-year Civil War.

Are we reaching that abyss once again?

Anyone who has been to Antietam, Gettysburg or any of the other great battlefields from 150 years ago knows the awful result of the attempted violent dissolution of the union. Yet, we now look at the gaping differences between the states on issues that both sides view as moral imperatives in modern America, and cannot help but wonder if this Republic can be saved.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:53:40   #
Sew_What
 
MR Mister wrote:
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone under 21 years of age, while they are actively moving to change the state Constitution to allow 16-year-olds to v**e. They have banned restaurants from handing out plastic straws unless requested by the customer but have a state law shielding i*****l a***ns who have broken other laws from being handed over to the federal government for deportation.

New York passed a law allowing for a child to be k**led after it had been born. Economically, Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo’s policies against both the natural gas production in the state and prohibiting new gas pipelines from being laid have had the predictable effect of forcing the end of new building permits in the New York City suburbs allowing inexpensive natural gas hookups, due to a government-created shortage of the abundant energy source. But while the New York government is seeking to squeeze the energy pipeline, they are also moving closer to adding firearm confiscation laws to their myriad of ownership restrictions.

Meanwhile the Republican Governors of Iowa and South Dakota each signed laws which restrict a******ns. In Iowa, Governor Kim Reynolds signed a fetal heartbeat bill into law (an Iowa judge overturned it) which would have prohibited a******ns once a heartbeat could be detected. South Dakota’s Kristi Noem signed legislation requiring that a sonogram be given and the images presented to the mother prior to the performance of any a******n.

Governors of Oklahoma, South Dakota and Kentucky all signed legislation affirming citizens right to carry firearms without the need for a permit. This brings the total number of constitutional carry states to 16 nationwide — a long way from when I was the NRA state liaison in 1987 helping local Florida powerhouse lobbyist Marion Hammer pass groundbreaking concealed carry license legislation.

See a pattern?

Hard left coastal states are aggressively pushing their agendas just as conservative middle America states are seeking to expand freedom while protecting life.

While Congress has experienced frustrating gridlock where both sides of the aisle representing the left-wing coastal areas and the vast area between them respectively grapple creating government shutdowns over immigration and other policy differences, the states don’t have the same restraints.

The liberal-conservative divide that many bemoan during national e******ns demonstrates itself most clearly on issues like gun ownership and a******n.

Many pundits and commentators focus on the divide between the political parties in Congress, while, at least on the conservative side of the aisle, the people back home are electing state representatives who are far more likely to take action that reflects their constituent’s values. The genius of our constitutional government with federalism is that as originally designed this is exactly what was supposed to happen. Federal primacy was restricted and states passed legislation that would never have been able to pass Congress.

On the other hand, when the peoples of the various states finally decided that they no longer shared values with their neighbors and that their differences had become irreconcilable, brother fought brother in a four-year Civil War.

Are we reaching that abyss once again?

Anyone who has been to Antietam, Gettysburg or any of the other great battlefields from 150 years ago knows the awful result of the attempted violent dissolution of the union. Yet, we now look at the gaping differences between the states on issues that both sides view as moral imperatives in modern America, and cannot help but wonder if this Republic can be saved.
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone u... (show quote)


...so here's a simple suggestion:

Don't move to California and don't live in New York if you want a constitutionally protected a******n, how 'bout that.

That way you won't have to be any where near the abyss that you fear so much.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:55:56   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so here's a simple suggestion:

Don't move to California and don't live in New York if you want a constitutionally protected a******n, how 'bout that.

That way you won't have to be any where near the abyss that you fear so much.


We don't have to move; Californians and Noo Yawkahs are leaving their respective states in droves, and bringing their bulls**t with them.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:59:04   #
Sew_What
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
We don't have to move; Californians and Noo Yawkahs are leaving their respective states in droves, and bringing their bulls**t with them.


Yea, to reiterate your doubtfulness about my claims, prove that!

And don't ask me to go do the work, do it yourself. Your claim: you provide the proof.

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Mar 29, 2019 11:05:58   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Sew_What wrote:
Yea, to reiterate your doubtfulness about my claims, prove that!

And don't ask me to go do the work, do it yourself. Your claim: you provide the proof.


Clang!

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Mar 29, 2019 11:20:13   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Sew_What wrote:
Yea, to reiterate your doubtfulness about my claims, prove that!

And don't ask me to go do the work, do it yourself. Your claim: you provide the proof.



https://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/16/census-142932-more-people-left-california-than-moved-here-in-2016/

https://nypost.com/2017/04/01/people-are-fleeing-new-york-at-an-alarming-rate/

Your turn. Or are you just a bulls**t artist?

Don't ask me to do the work. Your claim, you provide the proof.

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Mar 29, 2019 11:32:07   #
trucksterbud
 
MR Mister wrote:
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone under 21 years of age, while they are actively moving to change the state Constitution to allow 16-year-olds to v**e. They have banned restaurants from handing out plastic straws unless requested by the customer but have a state law shielding i*****l a***ns who have broken other laws from being handed over to the federal government for deportation.

New York passed a law allowing for a child to be k**led after it had been born. Economically, Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo’s policies against both the natural gas production in the state and prohibiting new gas pipelines from being laid have had the predictable effect of forcing the end of new building permits in the New York City suburbs allowing inexpensive natural gas hookups, due to a government-created shortage of the abundant energy source. But while the New York government is seeking to squeeze the energy pipeline, they are also moving closer to adding firearm confiscation laws to their myriad of ownership restrictions.

Meanwhile the Republican Governors of Iowa and South Dakota each signed laws which restrict a******ns. In Iowa, Governor Kim Reynolds signed a fetal heartbeat bill into law (an Iowa judge overturned it) which would have prohibited a******ns once a heartbeat could be detected. South Dakota’s Kristi Noem signed legislation requiring that a sonogram be given and the images presented to the mother prior to the performance of any a******n.

Governors of Oklahoma, South Dakota and Kentucky all signed legislation affirming citizens right to carry firearms without the need for a permit. This brings the total number of constitutional carry states to 16 nationwide — a long way from when I was the NRA state liaison in 1987 helping local Florida powerhouse lobbyist Marion Hammer pass groundbreaking concealed carry license legislation.

See a pattern?

Hard left coastal states are aggressively pushing their agendas just as conservative middle America states are seeking to expand freedom while protecting life.

While Congress has experienced frustrating gridlock where both sides of the aisle representing the left-wing coastal areas and the vast area between them respectively grapple creating government shutdowns over immigration and other policy differences, the states don’t have the same restraints.

The liberal-conservative divide that many bemoan during national e******ns demonstrates itself most clearly on issues like gun ownership and a******n.

Many pundits and commentators focus on the divide between the political parties in Congress, while, at least on the conservative side of the aisle, the people back home are electing state representatives who are far more likely to take action that reflects their constituent’s values. The genius of our constitutional government with federalism is that as originally designed this is exactly what was supposed to happen. Federal primacy was restricted and states passed legislation that would never have been able to pass Congress.

On the other hand, when the peoples of the various states finally decided that they no longer shared values with their neighbors and that their differences had become irreconcilable, brother fought brother in a four-year Civil War.

Are we reaching that abyss once again?

Anyone who has been to Antietam, Gettysburg or any of the other great battlefields from 150 years ago knows the awful result of the attempted violent dissolution of the union. Yet, we now look at the gaping differences between the states on issues that both sides view as moral imperatives in modern America, and cannot help but wonder if this Republic can be saved.
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone u... (show quote)


We're not at the abyss, we're IN the abyss. In case no one hasn't noticed. Americas c*******t manifesto is first brought out on truckers, as an experiment. The c*******ts in charge of the gulags always watch what happens. Truckers are considered to be "National Property" (we cross state lines) so we are subjected to a different standard. An old friend pointed this out many years ago when I first started driving interstate.

Think about this for a minute. If we could cut out the 5% take on any bill that a congressperson gets for passing entitlements to their home state how much could we save.?? If we could cut out the 50% waste built into the military budget how much could we save.??

In the original founding of the "Government", their basic and only real responsibility was to insure accurate weights and measures across state lines, and to coin the money supply. Look how far off track they have gone.

Congress is not beholden to the people anymore, that much is clear. Trump is in the crosshairs constantly as he is willing to fight the establishment.

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Mar 29, 2019 12:05:20   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so here's a simple suggestion:

Don't move to California and don't live in New York if you want a constitutionally protected a******n, how 'bout that.

That way you won't have to be any where near the abyss that you fear so much.



We have it all wrong, thousands of people are leaving California because of all the TAX, DRUGS, DISEASE,
COST OF LIVING, and lots more. Now understand these people are not Conservatives, no they are all Liberals and moving to Texas, Florida and lots of other states that have few crazies living there. They will v**e for the same fools that caused them to have to move!!
This goes for NY as well.
The SHTF.

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Mar 29, 2019 12:08:20   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/16/census-142932-more-people-left-california-than-moved-here-in-2016/

https://nypost.com/2017/04/01/people-are-fleeing-new-york-at-an-alarming-rate/

Your turn. Or are you just a bulls**t artist?

Don't ask me to do the work. Your claim, you provide the proof.


Good job!

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Mar 29, 2019 12:22:20   #
Sew_What
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/16/census-142932-more-people-left-california-than-moved-here-in-2016/

https://nypost.com/2017/04/01/people-are-fleeing-new-york-at-an-alarming-rate/

Your turn. Or are you just a bulls**t artist?

Don't ask me to do the work. Your claim, you provide the proof.


You believe the New York post?

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Mar 29, 2019 12:24:01   #
Sew_What
 
MR Mister wrote:
Good job!


What job, I don't believe anything unless it comes from ADP, they manage almost a 100% of the paychecks in the US, did the number of paychecks issued in New York go up or down?

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Mar 29, 2019 12:25:12   #
Sew_What
 
MR Mister wrote:
We have it all wrong, thousands of people are leaving California because of all the TAX, DRUGS, DISEASE,
COST OF LIVING, and lots more. Now understand these people are not Conservatives, no they are all Liberals and moving to Texas, Florida and lots of other states that have few crazies living there. They will v**e for the same fools that caused them to have to move!!
This goes for NY as well.
The SHTF.


Anecdotal evidence is not evidence, it's an opinion.

People want to stay in California bad enough to live in tents and campers, oh what-a-bout all of the immigrants exploding the population....that your ilk constantly complain about...it can't be growing or shrinking...

...and from the looks of it, I wouldn't want to move to Virginia or Oklahoma...UNLESS I was looking for opiates...Oklahoma just won a law suit...or maybe you didn't hear about all of drugs....buncha druggies...Oklahoma is OK, especially if you're high.

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Mar 29, 2019 12:32:57   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Sew_What wrote:
What job, I don't believe anything unless it comes from ADP, they manage almost a 100% of the paychecks in the US, did the number of paychecks issued in New York go up or down?


It's a fact that 98,000 New Yorkers have moved out of NY this year so far. Mostly due to the NY taxes.
Matter of fact NY is number one in taxes, Connecticut is number two, NJ is number 3, California is #4
and Illinois #5. All run by LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.

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Mar 29, 2019 12:37:35   #
Sew_What
 
MR Mister wrote:
It's a fact that 98,000 New Yorkers have moved out of NY this year so far. Mostly due to the NY taxes.
Matter of fact NY is number one in taxes, Connecticut is number two, NJ is number 3, California is #4
and Illinois #5. All run by LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.


Just saying doesn't make it true...and the fact that you said EXACTLY 98,000...is the very reason I don't believe you.

It should be 97,679-get it?

Do liberal Democrats hire and fire people?

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Mar 30, 2019 08:16:48   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
MR Mister wrote:
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone under 21 years of age, while they are actively moving to change the state Constitution to allow 16-year-olds to v**e. They have banned restaurants from handing out plastic straws unless requested by the customer but have a state law shielding i*****l a***ns who have broken other laws from being handed over to the federal government for deportation.

New York passed a law allowing for a child to be k**led after it had been born. Economically, Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo’s policies against both the natural gas production in the state and prohibiting new gas pipelines from being laid have had the predictable effect of forcing the end of new building permits in the New York City suburbs allowing inexpensive natural gas hookups, due to a government-created shortage of the abundant energy source. But while the New York government is seeking to squeeze the energy pipeline, they are also moving closer to adding firearm confiscation laws to their myriad of ownership restrictions.

Meanwhile the Republican Governors of Iowa and South Dakota each signed laws which restrict a******ns. In Iowa, Governor Kim Reynolds signed a fetal heartbeat bill into law (an Iowa judge overturned it) which would have prohibited a******ns once a heartbeat could be detected. South Dakota’s Kristi Noem signed legislation requiring that a sonogram be given and the images presented to the mother prior to the performance of any a******n.

Governors of Oklahoma, South Dakota and Kentucky all signed legislation affirming citizens right to carry firearms without the need for a permit. This brings the total number of constitutional carry states to 16 nationwide — a long way from when I was the NRA state liaison in 1987 helping local Florida powerhouse lobbyist Marion Hammer pass groundbreaking concealed carry license legislation.

See a pattern?

Hard left coastal states are aggressively pushing their agendas just as conservative middle America states are seeking to expand freedom while protecting life.

While Congress has experienced frustrating gridlock where both sides of the aisle representing the left-wing coastal areas and the vast area between them respectively grapple creating government shutdowns over immigration and other policy differences, the states don’t have the same restraints.

The liberal-conservative divide that many bemoan during national e******ns demonstrates itself most clearly on issues like gun ownership and a******n.

Many pundits and commentators focus on the divide between the political parties in Congress, while, at least on the conservative side of the aisle, the people back home are electing state representatives who are far more likely to take action that reflects their constituent’s values. The genius of our constitutional government with federalism is that as originally designed this is exactly what was supposed to happen. Federal primacy was restricted and states passed legislation that would never have been able to pass Congress.

On the other hand, when the peoples of the various states finally decided that they no longer shared values with their neighbors and that their differences had become irreconcilable, brother fought brother in a four-year Civil War.

Are we reaching that abyss once again?

Anyone who has been to Antietam, Gettysburg or any of the other great battlefields from 150 years ago knows the awful result of the attempted violent dissolution of the union. Yet, we now look at the gaping differences between the states on issues that both sides view as moral imperatives in modern America, and cannot help but wonder if this Republic can be saved.
California now prohibits all gun sales to anyone u... (show quote)


If you people followed Q, you would know a lot more of what is happening behind the scenes. Q isn't a conspiracy, it's not an alt-right site, it isn't r****t. Stay in the dark if you want to. I prefer the light. The wrath of God and Trump is about to fall on the left.

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