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T*********r Ban....NOT a Ban!!!!!
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Mar 28, 2019 18:05:11   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Its NOT a ban!!!...You can still serve in military,but you have to serve in your biological sex!!!.....T*********r is a medical condition...Military decides who CAN serve and not serve in military, NOT Congress!!!....Military doesnt have time to give time off during t*********r surgery......If you people forgot we are at war in Afghanistan,Syria,etc,etc.....You can have your surgery when get out of military service!!!!....What do you guys think!!!

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Mar 28, 2019 19:47:51   #
Divine truth
 
proud republican wrote:
Its NOT a ban!!!...You can still serve in military,but you have to serve in your biological sex!!!.....T*********r is a medical condition...Military decides who CAN serve and not serve in military, NOT Congress!!!....Military doesnt have time to give time off during t*********r surgery......If you people forgot we are at war in Afghanistan,Syria,etc,etc.....You can have your surgery when get out of military service!!!!....What do you guys think!!!


Very well stated, and accurate. First, the word or language "Ban" or "T*********r Ban", is the LBGTQ, community language, and I'm delighted that you made the point, that you made. It's not a medical condition its a mental health disorder or issue. They are trying to force themselves on everyone, and it's getting out of control. Where, there rights supersede all others rights, and the real reality is where this life is taken America, humanity, and our Children's. Take a stand against evil. The homosexual community have a strong yoke on most females. This yoke is recorded in the congressional record in congress, and online, identified as the "Gay Revolutionary Act", I welcome everyone to read, and discuss it with your family and friends.

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Mar 28, 2019 20:06:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Its NOT a ban!!!...You can still serve in military,but you have to serve in your biological sex!!!.....T*********r is a medical condition...Military decides who CAN serve and not serve in military, NOT Congress!!!....Military doesnt have time to give time off during t*********r surgery......If you people forgot we are at war in Afghanistan,Syria,etc,etc.....You can have your surgery when get out of military service!!!!....What do you guys think!!!


LOL... My wife agrees... Having a penis is a medical condition

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Mar 28, 2019 20:07:31   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
proud republican wrote:
Its NOT a ban!!!...You can still serve in military,but you have to serve in your biological sex!!!.....T*********r is a medical condition...Military decides who CAN serve and not serve in military, NOT Congress!!!....Military doesnt have time to give time off during t*********r surgery......If you people forgot we are at war in Afghanistan,Syria,etc,etc.....You can have your surgery when get out of military service!!!!....What do you guys think!!!


If you want to be a "girl" and was born a "boy" we should not waste the few pennies given to the military to alter your private parts. Many men/women are injured in the field who need those surgeons and the funds to make them as whole as possible. I do not see why they should be denied an artificial limb so a sexually confused person can have a s*x c****e.

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Mar 28, 2019 20:13:08   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If you want to be a "girl" and was born a "boy" we should not waste the few pennies given to the military to alter your private parts. Many men/women are injured in the field who need those surgeons and the funds to make them as whole as possible. I do not see why they should be denied an artificial limb so a sexually confused person can have a s*x c****e.



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Mar 28, 2019 21:13:38   #
Iliamna1
 
Science clearly shows that a person born with a certain set of c********es will develop into a male if he has XY or a female if born with XX c********es. There are a few very RARE exceptions and their true sexual identity can be determined by a careful assessment of their genetics. Leaving aside the rare exceptions, people with g****r dysphoria have a nearly 40% chance they will attempt suicide, with or without a g****r reassignment surgery. The treatments leading up to the surgery is extremely expensive with hormonal treatment and psychotherapy. Then there's the actual surgery and follow-up care.
If someone desires to follow that path, let them foot the bill themselves. It's unreasonable to saddle the military or private insurance carriers with this nonsense, not to mention the time off for treatment and surgical recovery that the military and employers have to pay for.

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Mar 28, 2019 21:19:33   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
proud republican wrote:
Its NOT a ban!!!...You can still serve in military,but you have to serve in your biological sex!!!.....T*********r is a medical condition...Military decides who CAN serve and not serve in military, NOT Congress!!!....Military doesnt have time to give time off during t*********r surgery......If you people forgot we are at war in Afghanistan,Syria,etc,etc.....You can have your surgery when get out of military service!!!!....What do you guys think!!!


NOTE!!!!...When i said t*********r is medical condition...I meant t*********r reassignment is a medical condition...

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Mar 28, 2019 22:16:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
NOTE!!!!...When i said t*********r is medical condition...I meant t*********r reassignment is a medical condition...


I think you are right on both accounts...

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Mar 28, 2019 22:17:59   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Science clearly shows that a person born with a certain set of c********es will develop into a male if he has XY or a female if born with XX c********es. There are a few very RARE exceptions and their true sexual identity can be determined by a careful assessment of their genetics. Leaving aside the rare exceptions, people with g****r dysphoria have a nearly 40% chance they will attempt suicide, with or without a g****r reassignment surgery. The treatments leading up to the surgery is extremely expensive with hormonal treatment and psychotherapy. Then there's the actual surgery and follow-up care.
If someone desires to follow that path, let them foot the bill themselves. It's unreasonable to saddle the military or private insurance carriers with this nonsense, not to mention the time off for treatment and surgical recovery that the military and employers have to pay for.
Science clearly shows that a person born with a ce... (show quote)


Hi Iliamna... How have you been?

Excellent post...
I am in complete agreement

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Mar 29, 2019 01:40:18   #
Iliamna1
 
Doing well. Today we got a new horse to board. The lady who owns him is competing in dressage and eventing (jumping). He's 16 hands, 3 inches and is a bay Hanoverian. He has really impressive hindquarters and I'm told he has cleared 4 ft, 6 in fences. But he has a very sweet disposition. Beautiful boring weather. And I hope You are blessed.

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Mar 29, 2019 02:53:14   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Science clearly shows that a person born with a certain set of c********es will develop into a male if he has XY or a female if born with XX c********es. There are a few very RARE exceptions and their true sexual identity can be determined by a careful assessment of their genetics. Leaving aside the rare exceptions, people with g****r dysphoria have a nearly 40% chance they will attempt suicide, with or without a g****r reassignment surgery. The treatments leading up to the surgery is extremely expensive with hormonal treatment and psychotherapy. Then there's the actual surgery and follow-up care.
If someone desires to follow that path, let them foot the bill themselves. It's unreasonable to saddle the military or private insurance carriers with this nonsense, not to mention the time off for treatment and surgical recovery that the military and employers have to pay for.
Science clearly shows that a person born with a ce... (show quote)


Spot on! I’ve been saying the c********es should be, because they are, the determining factor for calling a person male or female. We should simply put “xx” or “xy” on bathroom doors instead of the pants or skirt icons. Saying you can be surgically t***sformed from one sex to another is like saying you can cure a cold by surgically removing the throat and nasal passage. When doctors can surgically, or even medically, remove the cause of the cold itself, then they can claim they have a cure. Likewise, when doctors can t***sform a person’s c********es from xx to xy or vice-versa, then they can claim to do t*********r “surgery”. Until then, they are merely committing fraud and deception.

The problem with t*********rs, and those who enable them, is like the problem with “American” l*****ts in general- they aren’t happy with the DNA. Obama wanted, and set out to, “fundamentally change” America just as t*********rs set out to “fundamentally change” the biological sex they were born with as indicated by their DNA. This proves two things, at least: One, Obama (and his cronies) h**es America as much as t*********rs h**e their biological sex the way it is. Two, leftism is just as much a condition of mental illness as t*********rism is.

Therefore, the conclusion is, DNA c********es should determine a person’s sex in the same way love for, and allegiance and support to, the Constitution (as opposed to the determination to fundamentally change it) should be the real indicator of who is an American or not.

Thus when you hear of l*****ts calling for safe zones from free speech, laws that negate our fundamental right to bear arms, socialism instead of capitalism, democracy instead of a Republic, popular v**e instead of the e*******l college, special rights for special groups, and a host of other fundamental changes to our Constitution, these should be viewed in the same way as a person who is determined to modify their sexual g*****ls to the contrary of their DNA: a mental illness if not merely a moral catastrophe.

This also explains why America will never be a socialist nation: you can’t fundamentally change the DNA of our beloved country and have it still be the good ole USA!

Those who don’t love the DNA of the USA should leave it, they should not have the “right” to fundamentally “change” it. (Just as T*********rs should be able, and must, first have their DNA t***sformed before they can be called a different sex.) This is particularly so with politicians who have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution. T*********rs don’t swear an oath to protect their biological and DNA sex as a prerequisite to their s*x c****e operation, that would be an oxymoron. Similarly, Politicians who set out to t***sform the Constitution in any way that fundamentally changes the DNA of our country should be looked on as just as mentally unstable, and/or morally inept, as folks who would swear an oath to being the sex that matches their DNA who are on their way to being surgically changed to the opposite of their DNA. This is what fraud and dishonesty looks like. L*****ts and t*********rs don’t have the moral integrity to be honest with themselves and their DNA, and so they insist on imposing their fraudulence and dishonesty on the rest of us, demanding we agree with them, and hoping or expecting by that to justify their guilt and shame, rather than seek to cure it. And that last sentence is what exposes their respective “belief systems” to be a kind of religion for them, that they want to impose on the rest of us: it’s called humanism. And their way of evangelizing for humanism they call being a “Social Justice Warrior.” Making them also some of the biggest hypocrites ever to walk our planet! Because they want to push their religion on the rest of us while claiming they believe in separation of religion (church) and politics (state).

And it is all enabled by the deceitful dishonesty, and immorality, of calling things other than they are!

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Mar 29, 2019 05:56:30   #
Iliamna1
 
[quote=TommyRadd]Spot on! I’ve been saying the c********es should be, because they are, the determining factor for calling a person male or female. We should simply put “xx” or “xy” on bathroom doors instead of the pants or skirt icons. Saying you can be surgically t***sformed from one sex to another is like saying you can cure a cold by surgically removing the throat and nasal passage. When doctors can surgically, or even medically, remove the cause of the cold itself, then they can claim they have a cure. Likewise, when doctors can t***sform a person’s c********es from xx to xy or vice-versa, then they can claim to do t*********r “surgery”. Until then, they are merely committing fraud and deception.

The problem with t*********rs, and those who enable them, is like the problem with “American” l*****ts in general- they aren’t happy with the DNA. Obama wanted, and set out to, “fundamentally change” America just as t*********rs set out to “fundamentally change” the biological sex they were born with as indicated by their DNA. This proves two things, at least: One, Obama (and his cronies) h**es America as much as t*********rs h**e their biological sex the way it is. Two, leftism is just as much a condition of mental illness as t*********rism is.

Therefore, the conclusion is, DNA c********es should determine a person’s sex in the same way love for, and allegiance and support to, the Constitution (as opposed to the determination to fundamentally change it) should be the real indicator of who is an American or not.

Thus when you hear of l*****ts calling for safe zones from free speech, laws that negate our fundamental right to bear arms, socialism instead of capitalism, democracy instead of a Republic, popular v**e instead of the e*******l college, special rights for special groups, and a host of other fundamental changes to our Constitution, these should be viewed in the same way as a person who is determined to modify their sexual g*****ls to the contrary of their DNA: a mental illness if not merely a moral catastrophe.

This also explains why America will never be a socialist nation: you can’t fundamentally change the DNA of our beloved country and have it still be the good ole USA!

Those who don’t love the DNA of the USA should leave it, they should not have the “right” to fundamentally “change” it. (Just as T*********rs should be able, and must, first have their DNA t***sformed before they can be called a different sex.) This is particularly so with politicians who have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution. T*********rs don’t swear an oath to protect their biological and DNA sex as a prerequisite to their s*x c****e operation, that would be an oxymoron. Similarly, Politicians who set out to t***sform the Constitution in any way that fundamentally changes the DNA of our country should be looked on as just as mentally unstable, and/or morally inept, as folks who would swear an oath to being the sex that matches their DNA who are on their way to being surgically changed to the opposite of their DNA. This is what fraud and dishonesty looks like. L*****ts and t*********rs don’t have the moral integrity to be honest with themselves and their DNA, and so they insist on imposing their fraudulence and dishonesty on the rest of us, demanding we agree with them, and hoping or expecting by that to justify their guilt and shame, rather than seek to cure it. And that last sentence is what exposes their respective “belief systems” to be a kind of religion for them, that they want to impose on the rest of us: it’s called humanism. And their way of evangelizing for humanism they call being a “Social Justice Warrior.” Making them also some of the biggest hypocrites ever to walk our planet! Because they want to push their religion on the rest of us while claiming they believe in separation of religion (church) and politics (state).

And it is all enabled by the deceitful dishonesty, and immorality, of calling things other than they are![/quot Y) are spot on. Every male that was born with XY c********es, has that genetic determination in EVERT CELL he posses. Same is true for a woman. EVERY CEL

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Mar 29, 2019 11:02:58   #
dongreen76
 
proud republican wrote:
Its NOT a ban!!!...You can still serve in military,but you have to serve in your biological sex!!!.....T*********r is a medical condition...Military decides who CAN serve and not serve in military, NOT Congress!!!....Military doesnt have time to give time off during t*********r surgery......If you people forgot we are at war in Afghanistan,Syria,etc,etc.....You can have your surgery when get out of military service!!!!....What do you guys think!!!


If you are a true official t*********r how are you going to serve in your natural sex,you need a penis to be a natural man,now maybe a woman that became what she thinks is a man.All she has to do is dress and act as a woman,she does not have to worry about what she will do for a penis,she could not have removed what she never had,and can't get.As far as I know medical technology has not gotten that far as to fully accommodate her fondest aspirations as to becoming a total complete man,the operation can't give her a fully functional penis.

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Mar 29, 2019 11:11:32   #
TrueAmerican
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If you want to be a "girl" and was born a "boy" we should not waste the few pennies given to the military to alter your private parts. Many men/women are injured in the field who need those surgeons and the funds to make them as whole as possible. I do not see why they should be denied an artificial limb so a sexually confused person can have a s*x c****e.



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Mar 29, 2019 11:58:26   #
dongreen76
 
[quote=Iliamna1][quote=TommyRadd]Spot on! I’ve been saying the c********es should be, because they are, the determining factor for calling a person male or female. We should simply put “xx” or “xy” on bathroom doors instead of the pants or skirt icons. Saying you can be surgically t***sformed from one sex to another is like saying you can cure a cold by surgically removing the throat and nasal passage. When doctors can surgically, or even medically, remove the cause of the cold itself, then they can claim they have a cure. Likewise, when doctors can t***sform a person’s c********es from xx to xy or vice-versa, then they can claim to do t*********r “surgery”. Until then, they are merely committing fraud and deception.

The problem with t*********rs, and those who enable them, is like the problem with “American” l*****ts in general- they aren’t happy with the DNA. Obama wanted, and set out to, “fundamentally change” America just as t*********rs set out to “fundamentally change” the biological sex they were born with as indicated by their DNA. This proves two things, at least: One, Obama (and his cronies) h**es America as much as t*********rs h**e their biological sex the way it is. Two, leftism is just as much a condition of mental illness as t*********rism is.

Therefore, the conclusion is, DNA c********es should determine a person’s sex in the same way love for, and allegiance and support to, the Constitution (as opposed to the determination to fundamentally change it) should be the real indicator of who is an American or not.

Thus when you hear of l*****ts calling for safe zones from free speech, laws that negate our fundamental right to bear arms, socialism instead of capitalism, democracy instead of a Republic, popular v**e instead of the e*******l college, special rights for special groups, and a host of other fundamental changes to our Constitution, these should be viewed in the same way as a person who is determined to modify their sexual g*****ls to the contrary of their DNA: a mental illness if not merely a moral catastrophe.

This also explains why America will never be a socialist nation: you can’t fundamentally change the DNA of our beloved country and have it still be the good ole USA!

Those who don’t love the DNA of the USA should leave it, they should not have the “right” to fundamentally “change” it. (Just as T*********rs should be able, and must, first have their DNA t***sformed before they can be called a different sex.) This is particularly so with politicians who have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution. T*********rs don’t swear an oath to protect their biological and DNA sex as a prerequisite to their s*x c****e operation, that would be an oxymoron. Similarly, Politicians who set out to t***sform the Constitution in any way that fundamentally changes the DNA of our country should be looked on as just as mentally unstable, and/or morally inept, as folks who would swear an oath to being the sex that matches their DNA who are on their way to being surgically changed to the opposite of their DNA. This is what fraud and dishonesty looks like. L*****ts and t*********rs don’t have the moral integrity to be honest with themselves and their DNA, and so they insist on imposing their fraudulence and dishonesty on the rest of us, demanding we agree with them, and hoping or expecting by that to justify their guilt and shame, rather than seek to cure it. And that last sentence is what exposes their respective “belief systems” to be a kind of religion for them, that they want to impose on the rest of us: it’s called humanism. And their way of evangelizing for humanism they call being a “Social Justice Warrior.” Making them also some of the biggest hypocrites ever to walk our planet! Because they want to push their religion on the rest of us while claiming they believe in separation of religion (church) and politics (state).

And it is all enabled by the deceitful dishonesty, and immorality, of calling things other than they are![/quot Y) are spot on. Every male that was born with XY c********es, has that genetic determination in EVERT CELL he posses. Same is true for a woman. EVERY CEL[/quote]

Where does DNA come in to the picture.T*********rs are merely concerned about their outward appearance,as they should be,the average "Joe six pack,man or woman don't know a damned thing about their x -y c********es.If you had any sense,you would have discerned that they are mixed up c********es wise anyway.A hermaphrodite for one, is a woman that has both the chacracteristics of a man and a woman,Her clitoris is like that of a small penis,and on the other hand the true homosexual male has the obvious physical manors of a female,the speech with a lisp,the broken wrist hand gestures movements,the sometimes natural switching of the buttocks.In other words there is some type of chromosomal enbalance any how,this is why generally you can Identify a gay man or woman from the onset, furthermore,black women have been known to have an excessive amount of the chemical known as testosterone,[that is cong*****l to males and dictates a males behaviour] and more so than the average femaleJust as gay males,have an inordinate amount of estrogen which is cong*****l to the females behaviour

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