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Mar 27, 2019 22:21:39   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I sure h**e to post yet another thread on the crisis at the border.... but, it seems that this has disappeared from the media and OPP. I am pasting the entire article from Mexico..... I hope that soon the progressive of the USA will wake up! https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/mother-of-all-caravans-gathering-in-honduras/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Today&utm_campaign=51a6a33595-MNT+mar27-2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-51a6a33595-349565373

A massive cohort of prospective migrants dubbed the “mother of all caravans” is forming in Honduras, the federal interior secretary said today.

“We are aware that a new caravan is forming in Honduras that they’re calling the mother of all caravans . . . and which could be [made up of] more than 20,000 people,” Olga Sánchez Cordero said.

She didn’t offer any details about when the caravan might leave Honduras to start the journey towards Mexico and on to the United States’ southern border.

The interior secretary told reporters that migration and specifically the formation of the huge caravan was a central issue in talks she held yesterday with United States Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen in Miami, Florida.

Sánchez said Nielsen told her that United States authorities returned at least 76,000 migrants to their countries of origin in February and expect to deport more than 90,000 this month and a total of 900,000 by the end of the year.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said in a statement that Nielsen and Sánchez “discussed ways the U.S. and Mexico can work together to address irregular migration and the record levels of illegal entries at the U.S. southern border.”

Thousands of migrants fleeing poverty and violence in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador have entered Mexico at the southern border since late last year as part of several large caravans.

Despite the federal government issuing more than 10,000 humanitarian visas that allow migrants to live and work in Mexico for up to 12 months, most caravan members have chosen to travel to the United States border to seek asylum.

Yet another migrant caravan made up of around 2,500 Central Americans and Cubans is currently traveling through Chiapas after leaving Tapachula last weekend.

Caravan members walk long distances through Mexico in often hot conditions but also try to hitch rides to reach towns on the well-trodden migrant route more quickly.

Sánchez said today that there is evidence that criminal groups are t***sporting migrants from Tapachula to the northern border in trucks and charging each person thousands of dollars for the service.

“. . . Imagine the size, the dimension of this migration flow, which is sometimes human trafficking by organized crime, the business of this trafficking . . . is several billion dollars,” she said.

“. . . Each migrant represents between US $2,000 and $6,000 for them . . .” Sánchez added.

The interior secretary said that authorities will seek to better patrol the entire 1,020-kilometer stretch of the southern border in order to contain flows of people entering Mexico illegally. She pointed out that there are 370 illegal entry points and just 12 official ones.

However, Sánchez said there won’t be any move to militarize the border.

Instead, migration checkpoints manned by Federal Police and Civil Protection personnel will be set up on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec to halt migrants who have entered Mexico illegally.

“. . . We have to make a response because there cannot continue to be hundreds of thousands of migrants passing through Mexico and arriving at the northern border,” Sánchez said.

She added that as part of the strategy to curb migration the government will no longer issue long-term humanitarian visas.

Irineo Mujica, a member of a migrant advocacy group that accompanies migrants as they travel through Mexico, said Mexico had stopped granting humanitarian visas “to comply with the expectations of [United States President Donald] Trump.”

However, Sánchez said Mexico itself is struggling to cope with so many migrants currently in the country, pointing out that there is an overwhelming number of asylum seekers in shelters in northern border cities.

Due to the United States government’s introduction of a “metering” system that limits the number of asylum requests immigration authorities will hear on a daily basis, migrants face long waits in border cities, many of which have high rates of violent crime.

Even after they have filed claims for asylum, there is no guarantee that migrants will be allowed to wait in the United States for their cases to be heard at immigration courts – as was previously the case – due to the introduction and subsequent expansion of the so-called “Remain in Mexico” plan.

The Secretariat of Foreign Affairs (SRE) said earlier this month that “the Mexican government doesn’t agree with this unilateral measure implemented by United States authorities” but continues to receive people anyway for “humanitarian reasons.”

Mexico and the United States agreed in December to cooperate on a US $35.6-billion development plan in southern Mexico and Central America to curb migration but critics pointed out that most of the U.S. funding is not new as it will be allocated from existing aid programs.

Secretary Nielsen traveled to Tegucigalpa, Honduras, today to meet with officials from that country as well as Guatemala and El Salvador.

The DHS said Nielsen and Northern Triangle security ministers have been working on “a first-of-its-kind memorandum of cooperation – or ‘regional compact’” – that “focuses on stemming the migration crisis at its source, including preventing the formation of new migrant caravans that set out to reach the United States.”

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Mar 28, 2019 00:52:34   #
PeterS
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I sure h**e to post yet another thread on the crisis at the border.... but, it seems that this has disappeared from the media and OPP. I am pasting the entire article from Mexico..... I hope that soon the progressive of the USA will wake up! https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/mother-of-all-caravans-gathering-in-honduras/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Today&utm_campaign=51a6a33595-MNT+mar27-2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-51a6a33595-349565373

A massive cohort of prospective migrants dubbed the “mother of all caravans” is forming in Honduras, the federal interior secretary said today.

“We are aware that a new caravan is forming in Honduras that they’re calling the mother of all caravans . . . and which could be [made up of] more than 20,000 people,” Olga Sánchez Cordero said.

She didn’t offer any details about when the caravan might leave Honduras to start the journey towards Mexico and on to the United States’ southern border.

The interior secretary told reporters that migration and specifically the formation of the huge caravan was a central issue in talks she held yesterday with United States Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen in Miami, Florida.

Sánchez said Nielsen told her that United States authorities returned at least 76,000 migrants to their countries of origin in February and expect to deport more than 90,000 this month and a total of 900,000 by the end of the year.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said in a statement that Nielsen and Sánchez “discussed ways the U.S. and Mexico can work together to address irregular migration and the record levels of illegal entries at the U.S. southern border.”

Thousands of migrants fleeing poverty and violence in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador have entered Mexico at the southern border since late last year as part of several large caravans.

Despite the federal government issuing more than 10,000 humanitarian visas that allow migrants to live and work in Mexico for up to 12 months, most caravan members have chosen to travel to the United States border to seek asylum.

Yet another migrant caravan made up of around 2,500 Central Americans and Cubans is currently traveling through Chiapas after leaving Tapachula last weekend.

Caravan members walk long distances through Mexico in often hot conditions but also try to hitch rides to reach towns on the well-trodden migrant route more quickly.

Sánchez said today that there is evidence that criminal groups are t***sporting migrants from Tapachula to the northern border in trucks and charging each person thousands of dollars for the service.

“. . . Imagine the size, the dimension of this migration flow, which is sometimes human trafficking by organized crime, the business of this trafficking . . . is several billion dollars,” she said.

“. . . Each migrant represents between US $2,000 and $6,000 for them . . .” Sánchez added.

The interior secretary said that authorities will seek to better patrol the entire 1,020-kilometer stretch of the southern border in order to contain flows of people entering Mexico illegally. She pointed out that there are 370 illegal entry points and just 12 official ones.

However, Sánchez said there won’t be any move to militarize the border.

Instead, migration checkpoints manned by Federal Police and Civil Protection personnel will be set up on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec to halt migrants who have entered Mexico illegally.

“. . . We have to make a response because there cannot continue to be hundreds of thousands of migrants passing through Mexico and arriving at the northern border,” Sánchez said.

She added that as part of the strategy to curb migration the government will no longer issue long-term humanitarian visas.

Irineo Mujica, a member of a migrant advocacy group that accompanies migrants as they travel through Mexico, said Mexico had stopped granting humanitarian visas “to comply with the expectations of [United States President Donald] Trump.”

However, Sánchez said Mexico itself is struggling to cope with so many migrants currently in the country, pointing out that there is an overwhelming number of asylum seekers in shelters in northern border cities.

Due to the United States government’s introduction of a “metering” system that limits the number of asylum requests immigration authorities will hear on a daily basis, migrants face long waits in border cities, many of which have high rates of violent crime.

Even after they have filed claims for asylum, there is no guarantee that migrants will be allowed to wait in the United States for their cases to be heard at immigration courts – as was previously the case – due to the introduction and subsequent expansion of the so-called “Remain in Mexico” plan.

The Secretariat of Foreign Affairs (SRE) said earlier this month that “the Mexican government doesn’t agree with this unilateral measure implemented by United States authorities” but continues to receive people anyway for “humanitarian reasons.”

Mexico and the United States agreed in December to cooperate on a US $35.6-billion development plan in southern Mexico and Central America to curb migration but critics pointed out that most of the U.S. funding is not new as it will be allocated from existing aid programs.

Secretary Nielsen traveled to Tegucigalpa, Honduras, today to meet with officials from that country as well as Guatemala and El Salvador.

The DHS said Nielsen and Northern Triangle security ministers have been working on “a first-of-its-kind memorandum of cooperation – or ‘regional compact’” – that “focuses on stemming the migration crisis at its source, including preventing the formation of new migrant caravans that set out to reach the United States.”
I sure h**e to post yet another thread on the cri... (show quote)


Do you think our military and border patrol can't handle them? Has a single immigrant from a single caravan gotten through yet? So why are you in a continual panic--one after another--do you really think you are a primary target on your Northern Virginia farm?

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Mar 28, 2019 01:01:15   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
Do you think our military and border patrol can't handle them? Has a single immigrant from a single caravan gotten through yet? So why are you in a continual panic--one after another--do you really think you are a primary target on your Northern Virginia farm?


Actually quiet a few got through,PeterS...Border Patrol people are overwhelmed.....By the end of this year they expect that over a million of i******s will try to cross border illegally!!!Do you still think its a manufactured crisis???..You Rats are WALKiNG crisis!!!

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Mar 28, 2019 01:01:51   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Do you think our military and border patrol can't handle them? Has a single immigrant from a single caravan gotten through yet? So why are you in a continual panic--one after another--do you really think you are a primary target on your Northern Virginia farm?


Yes Goober.

Many have gotten through and thousands are being released from custody to make room for incoming captured wetbacks.

You should keep up with current reality instead of letting CNN do your thinking.

https://cbs4local.com/news/local/ice-apprehends-about-50-immigrants-that-were-found-in-stash-house-03-27-2019

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/26/dhs-releases-24k-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-into-u-s-in-two-weeks/

Do your homework before making a spook out of yourself....Goober.

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Mar 28, 2019 01:07:20   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
Do you think our military and border patrol can't handle them? Has a single immigrant from a single caravan gotten through yet? So why are you in a continual panic--one after another--do you really think you are a primary target on your Northern Virginia farm?


https://www.abccolumbia.com/2019/03/27/us-border-officials-predict-the-number-of-migrants-attempting-to-cross-the-southern-border-could-reach-as-high-as-1-million-this-year/

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Mar 28, 2019 01:26:41   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
Actually quiet a few got through,PeterS...Border Patrol people are overwhelmed.....By the end of this year they expect that over a million of i******s will try to cross border illegally!!!Do you still think its a manufactured crisis???..You Rats are WALKiNG crisis!!!

I think it is no more of a crisis today than it was under Obama when, btw, you cons slammed him when he counted the million-plus each year he turned back as i*****l a***ns deported from this country. The only reason it is a crisis now is that Trump keeps screaming " the sky is falling, the sky is falling" and fools like Pennylynn mimic every word that comes out of his mouth.

According to Commissioner McAleenan, what has the border patrol stretched too thin is having to process thousands of asylum seekers--a task border patrol agents aren't prepared to do--so it's not the caravans that are the problem but that we have no mechanism in place to process thousands of people seeking asylum in our country. A wall will do nothing to help with that so if you really want to "fix" the problem then you need to put into place the means to efficiently process thousands of people seeking asylum, thereby, releasing the border patrol to get back to doing what it is that they do best...patrol the border...

Until you are ready to do that we are never going to be able to solve the crisis at our southern border...

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Mar 28, 2019 01:35:20   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
I think it is no more of a crisis today than it was under Obama when, btw, you cons slammed him when he counted the million-plus each year he turned back as i*****l a***ns deported from this country. The only reason it is a crisis now is that Trump keeps screaming " the sky is falling, the sky is falling" and fools like Pennylynn mimic every word that comes out of his mouth.

According to Commissioner McAleenan, what has the border patrol stretched too thin is having to process thousands of asylum seekers--a task border patrol agents aren't prepared to do--so it's not the caravans that are the problem but that we have no mechanism in place to process thousands of people seeking asylum in our country. A wall will do nothing to help with that so if you really want to "fix" the problem then you need to put into place the means to efficiently process thousands of people seeking asylum, thereby, releasing the border patrol to get back to doing what it is that they do best...patrol the border...

Until you are ready to do that we are never going to be able to solve the crisis at our southern border...
I think it is no more of a crisis today than it wa... (show quote)


The first two words of your reply seem to be the brunt of your problem.

You see Goober, anytime 'you' say the words "I Think", then what comes out of your mouth afterwards is worth less than a cow paddy.

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Mar 28, 2019 03:10:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Do you think our military and border patrol can't handle them?


That's beside the point.

Quote:
Has a single immigrant from a single caravan gotten through yet?


Non sequitur. Beside the point...

Quote:
So why are you in a continual panic


...Non sequitur. Beside the point...

Quote:
--one after another--


Ah! We may be making progress. Are you familiar with terms like fed up, had it, I'm done, etc? We're done. Playing silly word games is a waste of time. We're tired of this s**t and we're going to find out who is financing these little invasions.

Do you honestly think we're obliged to keep playing this moronic game?

Quote:
do you really think you are a primary target on your Northern Virginia farm?


Non sequitur. No where near the point...sigh!

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Mar 28, 2019 03:14:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
BTW...if the "who" turns out to be a certain billionaire we need to confiscate every dime of his US assets for starters.

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Mar 28, 2019 03:30:29   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
I think it is no more of a crisis today than it was under Obama when, btw, you cons slammed him when he counted the million-plus each year he turned back as i*****l a***ns deported from this country. The only reason it is a crisis now is that Trump keeps screaming " the sky is falling, the sky is falling" and fools like Pennylynn mimic every word that comes out of his mouth.


Minimizing this isn't going to work. Neither will insults. The American left, the Democrat Party and a number of Republicans have sworn their swords the Global Cabal...therefore they have to walk the plank and there is no way in hell we'll let them walk anyplace else.

Your c***ting leaders want them to make e******n f***d easier. Whether they get in or not they're costing us money.

Quote:
According to Commissioner McAleenan, what has the border patrol stretched too thin is having to process thousands of asylum seekers--a task border patrol agents aren't prepared to do--so it's not the caravans that are the problem but that we have no mechanism in place to process thousands of people seeking asylum in our country. A wall will do nothing to help with that so if you really want to "fix" the problem then you need to put into place the means to efficiently process thousands of people seeking asylum, thereby, releasing the border patrol to get back to doing what it is that they do best...patrol the border...

Until you are ready to do that we are never going to be able to solve the crisis at our southern border...
According to Commissioner McAleenan, what has the ... (show quote)


Oh bulls**t! What circular logic! You should be a CNN talking head.

If we weren't being invaded by caravans we wouldn't need all those extra processors now, would we? Or a wall...or troops on the border.

It's in our best interest to "encourage" Mexico to secure its southern border .

In this hemishere I'm not sure who, except maybe the Venezuelans, Cubans and Haitians, would qualify for refugee status.

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Mar 28, 2019 05:31:54   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I sure h**e to post yet another thread on the crisis at the border.... but, it seems that this has disappeared from the media and OPP. I am pasting the entire article from Mexico..... I hope that soon the progressive of the USA will wake up! https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/mother-of-all-caravans-gathering-in-honduras/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Today&utm_campaign=51a6a33595-MNT+mar27-2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-51a6a33595-349565373

A massive cohort of prospective migrants dubbed the “mother of all caravans” is forming in Honduras, the federal interior secretary said today.

“We are aware that a new caravan is forming in Honduras that they’re calling the mother of all caravans . . . and which could be [made up of] more than 20,000 people,” Olga Sánchez Cordero said.

She didn’t offer any details about when the caravan might leave Honduras to start the journey towards Mexico and on to the United States’ southern border.

The interior secretary told reporters that migration and specifically the formation of the huge caravan was a central issue in talks she held yesterday with United States Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen in Miami, Florida.

Sánchez said Nielsen told her that United States authorities returned at least 76,000 migrants to their countries of origin in February and expect to deport more than 90,000 this month and a total of 900,000 by the end of the year.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said in a statement that Nielsen and Sánchez “discussed ways the U.S. and Mexico can work together to address irregular migration and the record levels of illegal entries at the U.S. southern border.”

Thousands of migrants fleeing poverty and violence in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador have entered Mexico at the southern border since late last year as part of several large caravans.

Despite the federal government issuing more than 10,000 humanitarian visas that allow migrants to live and work in Mexico for up to 12 months, most caravan members have chosen to travel to the United States border to seek asylum.

Yet another migrant caravan made up of around 2,500 Central Americans and Cubans is currently traveling through Chiapas after leaving Tapachula last weekend.

Caravan members walk long distances through Mexico in often hot conditions but also try to hitch rides to reach towns on the well-trodden migrant route more quickly.

Sánchez said today that there is evidence that criminal groups are t***sporting migrants from Tapachula to the northern border in trucks and charging each person thousands of dollars for the service.

“. . . Imagine the size, the dimension of this migration flow, which is sometimes human trafficking by organized crime, the business of this trafficking . . . is several billion dollars,” she said.

“. . . Each migrant represents between US $2,000 and $6,000 for them . . .” Sánchez added.

The interior secretary said that authorities will seek to better patrol the entire 1,020-kilometer stretch of the southern border in order to contain flows of people entering Mexico illegally. She pointed out that there are 370 illegal entry points and just 12 official ones.

However, Sánchez said there won’t be any move to militarize the border.

Instead, migration checkpoints manned by Federal Police and Civil Protection personnel will be set up on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec to halt migrants who have entered Mexico illegally.

“. . . We have to make a response because there cannot continue to be hundreds of thousands of migrants passing through Mexico and arriving at the northern border,” Sánchez said.

She added that as part of the strategy to curb migration the government will no longer issue long-term humanitarian visas.

Irineo Mujica, a member of a migrant advocacy group that accompanies migrants as they travel through Mexico, said Mexico had stopped granting humanitarian visas “to comply with the expectations of [United States President Donald] Trump.”

However, Sánchez said Mexico itself is struggling to cope with so many migrants currently in the country, pointing out that there is an overwhelming number of asylum seekers in shelters in northern border cities.

Due to the United States government’s introduction of a “metering” system that limits the number of asylum requests immigration authorities will hear on a daily basis, migrants face long waits in border cities, many of which have high rates of violent crime.

Even after they have filed claims for asylum, there is no guarantee that migrants will be allowed to wait in the United States for their cases to be heard at immigration courts – as was previously the case – due to the introduction and subsequent expansion of the so-called “Remain in Mexico” plan.

The Secretariat of Foreign Affairs (SRE) said earlier this month that “the Mexican government doesn’t agree with this unilateral measure implemented by United States authorities” but continues to receive people anyway for “humanitarian reasons.”

Mexico and the United States agreed in December to cooperate on a US $35.6-billion development plan in southern Mexico and Central America to curb migration but critics pointed out that most of the U.S. funding is not new as it will be allocated from existing aid programs.

Secretary Nielsen traveled to Tegucigalpa, Honduras, today to meet with officials from that country as well as Guatemala and El Salvador.

The DHS said Nielsen and Northern Triangle security ministers have been working on “a first-of-its-kind memorandum of cooperation – or ‘regional compact’” – that “focuses on stemming the migration crisis at its source, including preventing the formation of new migrant caravans that set out to reach the United States.”
I sure h**e to post yet another thread on the cri... (show quote)


Worrying never helps much. Trust this President and trust the military. He has a plan and he is working his plan. He hasn't lost yet, has he? All this was planned out and war-gamed before he even announced. He even has contingency plans if the original plan is blocked. Unless you have people in Mexico or are connected to organized crime, you can sleep well. The watchmen are on the wall and awake. Trump will take care of America and Netanyahu will take care of Israel. They're both servants of the Lord and heck maybe they're both Cyrus and Ester, for such a time as this. Haman and his sons must hang so our people may live and the temple must be rebuilt. It's time and we get to see it happen.

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Mar 28, 2019 06:31:34   #
tbutkovich
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
The first two words of your reply seem to be the brunt of your problem.

You see Goober, anytime 'you' say the words "I Think", then what comes out of your mouth afterwards is worth less than a cow paddy.


Peter S is a “thinker like a gorilla sitting on a rock with its hand on its chin! Unable to rationalize but just wanting to know whence and from whom the next free banana will come!”

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Mar 28, 2019 07:29:47   #
badbob85037
 
PeterS wrote:
Do you think our military and border patrol can't handle them? Has a single immigrant from a single caravan gotten through yet? So why are you in a continual panic--one after another--do you really think you are a primary target on your Northern Virginia farm?


You must lead a sheltered life
And who says none have got through? Pelos, Schumer, Waters, Why don't you go down to the border and see for yourself. Or come to Phoenix and I'll take you camping You'll have to bring your own guns cause I only have 20 and there for me. All these i******s love to drive drunk as they do in Mexico. Once they total a couple of your cars and the worthless and corrupt Phoenix cops let these felons walk you might get a clue but you won't be getting a dime for damages. Then we got that home invasion s**t going on They stabbed a guy on the next block over. The guy's daughter got to a closet and was able to call the cops but they were Phoenix cops who k**led one and the other 3 got clean away. While your here we can do a little head hunting on highway 8. There is always some rolling around

I will admit there aren't many Liberals in Phoenix and we don't keep a gun under the pillow we keep a semi auto besides the bed with a 30 round magazine a shotgun fully loaded and a hand gun with a double stack mag in it cause when they come breakin down your door it's k**l or be k**led and you better be able to k**l all of them. Or just hang a sign in your front yard telling them you don't believe in guns and I'm sure they will pass your home

Word of advice if you don't think we have a problem on the border then you are totally unaware of your surroundings and that is a sure way of getting your self k**led. If 25 million crossing your border isn't an invasion then what is?

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Mar 28, 2019 08:00:20   #
peg w
 
This never hit the media because it probably doesn't exist

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Mar 28, 2019 08:02:09   #
peg w
 
This never hit the media because it probably doesn't exist

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