Kevyn wrote:
Is the Pro Life a typo? true Libertarians are pro choice. Here are a couple quotes from Rand.
An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).
A******n is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?
If any among you are confused or taken in by the argument that the cells of an embryo are living human cells, remember that so are all the cells of your body, including the cells of your skin, your tonsils, or your ruptured appendix—and that cutting them is murder, according to the notions of that proposed law. Remember also that a potentiality is not the equivalent of an actuality—and that a human being’s life begins at birth.
The question of a******n involves much more than the termination of a pregnancy: it is a question of the entire life of the parents. As I have said before, parenthood is an enormous responsibility; it is an impossible responsibility for young people who are ambitious and struggling, but poor; particularly if they are intelligent and conscientious enough not to abandon their child on a doorstep nor to surrender it to adoption. For such young people, pregnancy is a death sentence: parenthood would force them to give up their future, and condemn them to a life of hopeless drudgery, of s***ery to a child’s physical and financial needs. The situation of an unwed mother, abandoned by her lover, is even worse.
I cannot quite imagine the state of mind of a person who would wish to condemn a fellow human being to such a horror. I cannot project the degree of hatred required to make those women run around in crusades against a******n. Hatred is what they certainly project, not love for the embryos, which is a piece of nonsense no one could experience, but hatred, a virulent hatred for an unnamed object. Judging by the degree of those women’s intensity, I would say that it is an issue of self-esteem and that their fear is metaphysical. Their hatred is directed against human beings as such, against the mind, against reason, against ambition, against success, against love, against any value that brings happiness to human life. In compliance with the dishonesty that dominates today’s intellectual field, they call themselves “pro-life.”
By what right does anyone claim the power to dispose of the lives of others and to dictate their personal choices?
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Hi, Kevyn,
Sounds like a good argument for pro choice. I find a big flaw in the logic though. You see, tonsils or a ruptured appendix will never be a living person, they are only parts.
An embryo, on the other hand, WILL be a living, breathing human being. If an embryo is just cells like tonsils, then where does the brain come from? It's the brain, not the body, that makes an embryo human. it is a known fact that babies dream in the womb...of what I don't know, but the dream. If the baby is dreaming, then it is thinking, and if it's thinking, it is. ( I think, therefore, I am) Here's another question...if an embryo is not a human, then why does a murderer get charged with 2 murders when a pregnant woman is murdered?
Let's build a tractor. From start to finish, it is a tractor. We don't start building a sailboat and end up with a tractor somewhere along the line. If people say "what are you building?", you wouldn't say "nothing...it's just a pile of parts" No, you would say I am building a tractor.
When a woman starts showing, would she say "I have a goo of cells in my womb".
So, nothing other than an embryo will ever see the light of day and live to become a factory worker, a homeless person, mayor of a mid sized town, or even president. That alone makes the embryo "special".
I know the hardships of parenting at an early age. The way I see it, there are so many ways to prevent pregnancy today that it is just irresponsible to have sex and then k**l the baby. The dems want the v****g age lowered to 16...then let that age group be mature enough to not get k**led texting and driving, to not get hooked on drugs or alcohol, or to get pregnant when it is not desired.
Now, I think the whole reply is pretty good logic, Kevyn.