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Mar 26, 2019 13:46:49   #
badbob85037
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We live in a world of disinformation and omission. I read where Orwell said, "omission is the greatest lie of all." What ya ain't told is worse than an outright lie. It's what we aren't being told about the presidency of Donald Trump that's concerning.

It's the never-ending battle the Democrats are having with the president that concerns me. All Democrats aren't stupid. It seems that the Democrats, perhaps not all of them, but a few of the important ones know something they aren't telling. Otherwise why the all-out effort to take down this President.

And it isn't just the Democrats, agencies like the FBI and others that are privy to things the rest of us can only guess at have been against this President. The strange thing: with all the emails having been sent between those in the FBI, there is no mention for why they feel as they do. Of course, any email that expressed why it was felt the President had to be stopped, could have been omitted.

Those of us who have been around for a while don't have to be told that the present political climate is the worst its ever been. Using the disinformation and omission analogy one can only guess which side (party) is on our side.

It's as if a great battle between good and evil is taking place and only the combatants know which is which. However, it could be that both are evil, and we're just fucked
We live in a world of disinformation and omission.... (show quote)


Democrats that are not stupid manipulate the stupid into doing the unthinkable. Example, who in their right mind would cast a v**e for hillary knowing she wouldn't think twice about selling out the nation for profit. No further example is needed.

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Mar 26, 2019 14:06:42   #
badbob85037
 
permafrost wrote:
Small question for you...

What news do you watch? I would like to see the source some day..


Her and Bill c***ted the elderly out of their homes. She lied about the White House Travel Staff having most to spend their life savings to prove their innocence. C***ted her way through the primary. Used the excuse of stupid and ignorance to run a private e-mail server to cover her pay to play. She left Americans to die. Her excuse "What difference does it make now". The question should be 'Do you ever listen to news?'

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Mar 26, 2019 14:27:47   #
Seth
 
byronglimish wrote:
Your idol Obama set the divide in motion and while trying to fix it, the honorable Donald J Trump has been maligned as the divider.


Exactly.

The Democrats know this, but it is a standard left wing tactic to make it look like "the opposition did it. We don't do things like that" when it is precisely what they did and what they do as a standard strategy.

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Mar 26, 2019 14:33:23   #
Nickolai
 
Cadillac wrote:
Richard
What we are not being told is what role did Obama, the Clintons and the leadership of the FBI played.
Don’t you think it’s time for Democrats to stop with the false accusations. Don’t you think it’s time for the mainstream press to stop with the false news.





There is a load of un answered questions that need answers If these people are so innocent why did they meet so often with Russians. Why did they lie about it why have so many pled guilty so many indicted. Why have we only seen a Barr Report a man put in place to protect Trump

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Mar 26, 2019 14:38:52   #
Seth
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Her and Bill c***ted the elderly out of their homes. She lied about the White House Travel Staff having most to spend their life savings to prove their innocence. C***ted her way through the primary.


But... Notice how even after President Trump was investigated by a hostile special counsel for two years, THEIR special counsel no less, they're not willing to accept his findings.

Instead of answering up to direct accusations against Hillary they know to be true, though, they'll respond with an attack of cherry-picked innuendo against Trump.

Count on it.

Or else they'll make a baseless accusation against Trump and disappear into the woodwork without defending their position.

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Mar 26, 2019 14:40:02   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
permafrost wrote:
Nah... He will limp for his last 2 years. which is what I have wanted from the time i sat near the fire and gave it some thought..

I was worried that Mueller would present some high crime which would demand that he be impeached.

I am very disappointed with the indecisive report Muller presented..

Disgusted with trump AG presenting a 4 page summary and calling it a done deal.

But after all, he was hand picked for that task by the orange lump..

I have wired (can i call e mails that word?) reps to demand release of the entire 2000 pages or so of the report... then maybe we can see why Mueller said trump was not exonerated.

In any event, this will go one for the 2 years. so we who worry about our nation need to work hard and unrelenting to limit the damage mr orange con man can do..

1st task I think is changing the spending bill trump has sent to congress.. No.. must be several other things first up.. Hard to keep track of it all..
Nah... He will limp for his last 2 years. whi... (show quote)




Your premises are all wrong.

No one outside of the Muller team and the AG have set eyes on the pages of Miller's report.
Considering there are thousands of pages.
As you call it "Trumps AG".
He clearly stated he would "Quickly" and over the weekend for the benifits of the American people give a "Brief Summary" of Mullers summary in order for all to know "The bottom line.
The AG also said he" after reviewing " would release every detail of the Report, according to what the law permits.

Finding critical thought on what the AG released. And at this early stage what the AG promised has zero merit or foundation.
The left has promoted Muller as" The right man for the job" with the lefts best interests at heart, yet you don't like Mullers findings. Trump never fired Muller as by law he was allowed to do, yet the left promised retribution had Trump fired him... He didn't.

Please explain where you formed such an outlandish statement?

The reason and push of hiring Muller... Did Trump or anyone in Trumps campaign engage in collusion with Russia to effect the e******n? Muller clearly stated... NO, not Trump or any in Trump’s campaign or even anyone Trump has a connection to.
What has been revealed and will be the next "Special Counsel" Clinton, the FBI, CIA did collude with Russia both before the e******n to effect the outcome of the e******n and after the e******n to unset a duly elected President.

Your conclusions and outrage are sadly misdirected. Just as Muller conducted the Russian probe and because the left initiated the Probe.. The left v**ers announced Trump guilty largely because of the bought and paid for media lies. Now the left has launched a dozen plus lawsuits against Trump, because the left launched lawsuits "Trump is guilty, just exactly the same as he was pronounced guilty of Russian collusion..
It was a witch hunt, and the left cannot accept that Trump was innocent and this madness was a construct of Hillary and her government team, under obamas administration.

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Mar 26, 2019 15:05:32   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is a load of un answered questions that need answers If these people are so innocent why did they meet so often with Russians. Why did they lie about it why have so many pled guilty so many indicted. Why have we only seen a Barr Report a man put in place to protect Trump


Your two tiered justice requirements are blatant and simple.

You never critiqued the the investigations of Hillary with the same balance.

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Mar 26, 2019 15:31:43   #
Seth
 
byronglimish wrote:
Your two tiered justice requirements are blatant and simple.

You never critiqued the the investigations of Hillary with the same balance.


"But that's different, you see."

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Mar 26, 2019 16:08:37   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Seth wrote:
"But that's different, you see."


Oh!😱

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Mar 26, 2019 16:19:32   #
jeff smith
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We live in a world of disinformation and omission. I read where Orwell said, "omission is the greatest lie of all." What ya ain't told is worse than an outright lie. It's what we aren't being told about the presidency of Donald Trump that's concerning.

It's the never-ending battle the Democrats are having with the president that concerns me. All Democrats aren't stupid. It seems that the Democrats, perhaps not all of them, but a few of the important ones know something they aren't telling. Otherwise why the all-out effort to take down this President.

And it isn't just the Democrats, agencies like the FBI and others that are privy to things the rest of us can only guess at have been against this President. The strange thing: with all the emails having been sent between those in the FBI, there is no mention for why they feel as they do. Of course, any email that expressed why it was felt the President had to be stopped, could have been omitted.

Those of us who have been around for a while don't have to be told that the present political climate is the worst its ever been. Using the disinformation and omission analogy one can only guess which side (party) is on our side.

It's as if a great battle between good and evil is taking place and only the combatants know which is which. However, it could be that both are evil, and we're just fucked
We live in a world of disinformation and omission.... (show quote)

I believe it was Nancy pe lose , who on public tv , said , "I don't care what it takes we will get him out of office" . she and schumeeeeeee and a lot of other bimbocrats are hell bent on destroying President Trump. along with some rinos . these are probably the swamp crew , who love their power , and probably get very LARGE bank rolls from their lobbyist friends . the dems. have taken hitlars comment to a new low. " tell a big enough lie , enough and they will believe it ". as some will know first hand, when the police want to convict some one they will build a case even if the person is innocent , but they will build a case to get "A" conviction . this is what I believe is going on in the swamp , and the bimbocratic party leadership . we will build a case to get what we want . talk about tyranny . what else could it be? like little kids on the play ground . pout and pout some more . I didn't win so I will make it miserable for everyone , until I get my way.

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Mar 26, 2019 16:23:55   #
fullspinzoo
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is a load of un answered questions that need answers If these people are so innocent why did they meet so often with Russians. Why did they lie about it why have so many pled guilty so many indicted. Why have we only seen a Barr Report a man put in place to protect Trump


You have such a negative bias that no matter who gave the report if it was favorable for Trump, you wouldn't buy it. Deep down you h**e Trump. You're just like all those morons on the Left that said wait for the Mueller to come out. (And under their breath they thought "he's going to crucify him"). Now that the report is out, you don't like the results. You and your pathetic ilk will never be happy until you have something on Trump. Definition of a WITCH HUNT, period. I hop cops follow you around until your 5 or 10 over the speed limit and then they NAIL you. Or if you do worse. You need to have someone follow you around looking over your shoulder 24/7 and then you'll know what Trump has had to go through for the last 2 years....and still nothing.

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Mar 26, 2019 16:32:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Your premises are all wrong.

No one outside of the Muller team and the AG have set eyes on the pages of Miller's report.
Considering there are thousands of pages.
As you call it "Trumps AG".
He clearly stated he would "Quickly" and over the weekend for the benifits of the American people give a "Brief Summary" of Mullers summary in order for all to know "The bottom line.
The AG also said he" after reviewing " would release every detail of the Report, according to what the law permits.

Finding critical thought on what the AG released. And at this early stage what the AG promised has zero merit or foundation.
The left has promoted Muller as" The right man for the job" with the lefts best interests at heart, yet you don't like Mullers findings. Trump never fired Muller as by law he was allowed to do, yet the left promised retribution had Trump fired him... He didn't.

Please explain where you formed such an outlandish statement?

The reason and push of hiring Muller... Did Trump or anyone in Trumps campaign engage in collusion with Russia to effect the e******n? Muller clearly stated... NO, not Trump or any in Trump’s campaign or even anyone Trump has a connection to.
What has been revealed and will be the next "Special Counsel" Clinton, the FBI, CIA did collude with Russia both before the e******n to effect the outcome of the e******n and after the e******n to unset a duly elected President.

Your conclusions and outrage are sadly misdirected. Just as Muller conducted the Russian probe and because the left initiated the Probe.. The left v**ers announced Trump guilty largely because of the bought and paid for media lies. Now the left has launched a dozen plus lawsuits against Trump, because the left launched lawsuits "Trump is guilty, just exactly the same as he was pronounced guilty of Russian collusion..
It was a witch hunt, and the left cannot accept that Trump was innocent and this madness was a construct of Hillary and her government team, under obamas administration.
Your premises are all wrong. br br No one outsi... (show quote)






LOL,,,, you are going to investigate Hillary??? Again???

How dumb can one group of people be?

OK.. go get Hillary.. today, now, right away.. boy you can get her this time.. keep trying..

Wow,, it will be only what about a dozen investigations of the dear lady? 8 only on B******i..

Back to the real world for a second.. My b***hing was not about Mueller,, It was addressed to Barr..

think hard, do you feel 4 pages can cover near 2 years of investigations for the American people..

Don`t you feel taxpayers deserve more than that??

Comon Jack, we are not as far apart as you think.. Do not let the orange disgrace suck you into his plan...
Comon Jack, we are not as far apart as you think.....

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Mar 26, 2019 17:21:42   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
permafrost wrote:


LOL,,,, you are going to investigate Hillary??? Again???

How dumb can one group of people be?

OK.. go get Hillary.. today, now, right away.. boy you can get her this time.. keep trying..

Wow,, it will be only what about a dozen investigations of the dear lady? 8 only on B******i..

Back to the real world for a second.. My b***hing was not about Mueller,, It was addressed to Barr..

think hard, do you feel 4 pages can cover near 2 years of investigations for the American people..

Don`t you feel taxpayers deserve more than that??
img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/ima... (show quote)



I appreciate your reply. Our differences is in belief that Hillary was not investigated but given a political pass. Trump got a special counsel for the American people, why not the same standard.
If Hillary is given the same standards of investigation and the results are as Trump, then I won't like it anymore than you do Trumps.. But I'll accept the results.
On many issues we are not that far apart. It's a damn shame we in today's world must wade through mountains of politics and lies to seek the t***h and even then are sometimes fooled

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Mar 26, 2019 18:27:54   #
Mikeyavelli
 
byronglimish wrote:
We still might be headed to civil war, and if the deep state socialist aggressors have their way, true patriotic, sovereignty believing Americans will be opposed by the U.N. or our own troops.


Unless the Obama Clinton cabal is exposed and prosecuted and the American people know why, there will be a civil war. The goal of the international left is to topple America and assimilate all countries into a borderless one government world with Islam as the policing force. Sharia law is cheap and effective. Steal an apple? Off with your hand, in public, with crude knives.

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Mar 26, 2019 18:44:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We live in a world of disinformation and omission. I read where Orwell said, "omission is the greatest lie of all." What ya ain't told is worse than an outright lie. It's what we aren't being told about the presidency of Donald Trump that's concerning.

It's the never-ending battle the Democrats are having with the president that concerns me. All Democrats aren't stupid. It seems that the Democrats, perhaps not all of them, but a few of the important ones know something they aren't telling. Otherwise why the all-out effort to take down this President.

And it isn't just the Democrats, agencies like the FBI and others that are privy to things the rest of us can only guess at have been against this President. The strange thing: with all the emails having been sent between those in the FBI, there is no mention for why they feel as they do. Of course, any email that expressed why it was felt the President had to be stopped, could have been omitted.

Those of us who have been around for a while don't have to be told that the present political climate is the worst its ever been. Using the disinformation and omission analogy one can only guess which side (party) is on our side.

It's as if a great battle between good and evil is taking place and only the combatants know which is which. However, it could be that both are evil, and we're just fucked
We live in a world of disinformation and omission.... (show quote)


" It's as if a great battle between good and evil is taking place and only the combatants know which is which. However, it could be that both are evil, and we're just fucked"

I like most of what you said, Richard

Picking the fly s**t out of the pepper is a daunting task.
BUT IMO
There is a lot more fly s**t in left handed pepper shakers.

" It's the never-ending battle the Democrats are having with the president that concerns me. All Democrats aren't stupid. It seems that the Democrats, perhaps not all of them, but a few of the important ones know something they aren't telling. Otherwise why the all-out effort to take down this President?" - Richard Rowland

It is of necessity!
The Dimms are losing the battle for the minds of the e*****rate.

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