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Mar 25, 2019 12:58:21   #
zillaorange
 
moldyoldy wrote:
So Barr knew for three weeks that collusion by trump was not provable yet.

So Barr spent three weeks figuring out how to spin the results about obstruction.


Mueller did not exonerate him.


Release the report, let the public see the facts.


You folks live in a constant state of DELUSION !!!

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Mar 25, 2019 13:33:47   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
So Barr knew for three weeks that collusion by trump was not provable yet.

So Barr spent three weeks figuring out how to spin the results about obstruction.


Mueller did not exonerate him.


Release the report, let the public see the facts.


"Mueller did not exonerate him."

Moldy!!!!
Are you really that obtuse?
That clueless?
Still in denial?

"Release the report, let the public see the facts."
OH, it is coming! You better sit down, moldy. LOLOLOL

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Mar 25, 2019 13:40:06   #
zillaorange
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Mueller did not exonerate him."

Moldy!!!!
Are you really that obtuse?
That clueless?
Still in denial?

"Release the report, let the public see the facts."
OH, it is coming! You better sit down, moldy. LOLOLOL


It won't matter to him or the rest of the socialist/ dems ! The t***h doesn't matter !!!

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Mar 25, 2019 13:56:14   #
moldyoldy
 
zillaorange wrote:
You folks live in a constant state of DELUSION !!!


A tweet from trump and a WH statement, claims the indictment handed down against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations for illegally interfering in the 2016 e******n indicates there was “no collusion” between Russians and the Trump campaign, and that “the results of the e******n were not impacted.” But the indictment did not go that far on either count.
The indictment alleges the defendants used the names of U.S. citizens and companies to illegally buy political ads on social media and stage political rallies.
Although some of the activity dated back to 2014, the indictment states that by early to mid-2016, the defendants’ operation included supporting Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton.
According to the indictment, “Some defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”
In a Feb. 16 press conference announcing the indictment, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein reiterated that the communications established by the defendants were made with “unwitting Americans.”
“Now, there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity,” Rosenstein said. “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.

A press release issued by White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders echoed those points.
Statement from the press secretary regarding the Russia Indictments, Feb. 16: President Donald J. Trump has been fully briefed on this matter and is glad to see the Special Counsel’s investigation further indicates — that there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia and that the outcome of the e******n was not changed or affected.
But that’s not what Rosenstein, or the indictment presented by the U.S. special counsel’s office, stated.
Rosenstein merely stated that there was no allegation in “this indictment” that any Americans — including those in the Trump campaign — wittingly participated in “this illegal activity.” (Emphasis is ours.)
According to Rosenstein, the Russians “recruited and paid real Americans to engage in political activities, promote political campaigns and stage political rallies. The defendants and their co-conspirators pretended to be grassroots activists. According to the indictment, the Americans did not know that they were communicating with Russians.”
Later, Rosenstein noted that, “the nature of the scheme was the defendants took extraordinary steps to make it appear that they were ordinary American political activists, even going so far as to base their activities on a virtual private network here in the United States so, if anybody traced it back to that first jump, they appeared to be Americans.”
In other words, those who may have been paid by the Russians for social media ads, or to stage rallies, did not knowingly collude with the Russians.
Trump’s tweet goes beyond what Rosenstein and the indictment stated. His tweet assumes there is no investigation beyond what was revealed in the Feb. 16 indictment. And we just don’t know one way or the other what other things Mueller may be investigating.
Bloomberg reported after the indictment was announced that, “Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his prosecutors haven’t concluded their investigation into whether President Donald Trump or any of his associates helped Russia interfere in the 2016 e******n, according to a person with knowledge of the probe.”
As for Trump’s claim that the indictment indicates that “the results of the e******n were not impacted,” that also goes beyond what Rosenstein said.
Again, Rosenstein said, “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.” That’s consistent with a declassified intelligence report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that was released on J*** 6, 2017. That report accused Russia of meddling in the 2016 e******n on Trump’s behalf, but it “did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcomes of the 2016 e******n.”
According to that DNI report, “The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion.”
As we wrote when Vice President Mike Pence recently repeated the false talking point that U.S. intelligence agencies came to the “universal conclusion” that Russia’s meddling had no impact on the e******n results, the intelligence community has not concluded one way or the other if Russia’s influence campaign affected the e******n outcome.
In this case, Rosenstein acknowledged there was “no allegation” in the indictment that the Russians’ social media campaign or rallies swayed v**es. The impact of these activities is possibly unknowable.
ue Russia investigation

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/02/trump-no-collusion/

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Mar 25, 2019 14:07:43   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
A tweet from trump and a WH statement, claims the indictment handed down against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations for illegally interfering in the 2016 e******n indicates there was “no collusion” between Russians and the Trump campaign, and that “the results of the e******n were not impacted.” But the indictment did not go that far on either count.
The indictment alleges the defendants used the names of U.S. citizens and companies to illegally buy political ads on social media and stage political rallies.
Although some of the activity dated back to 2014, the indictment states that by early to mid-2016, the defendants’ operation included supporting Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton.
According to the indictment, “Some defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”
In a Feb. 16 press conference announcing the indictment, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein reiterated that the communications established by the defendants were made with “unwitting Americans.”
“Now, there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity,” Rosenstein said. “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.

A press release issued by White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders echoed those points.
Statement from the press secretary regarding the Russia Indictments, Feb. 16: President Donald J. Trump has been fully briefed on this matter and is glad to see the Special Counsel’s investigation further indicates — that there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia and that the outcome of the e******n was not changed or affected.
But that’s not what Rosenstein, or the indictment presented by the U.S. special counsel’s office, stated.
Rosenstein merely stated that there was no allegation in “this indictment” that any Americans — including those in the Trump campaign — wittingly participated in “this illegal activity.” (Emphasis is ours.)
According to Rosenstein, the Russians “recruited and paid real Americans to engage in political activities, promote political campaigns and stage political rallies. The defendants and their co-conspirators pretended to be grassroots activists. According to the indictment, the Americans did not know that they were communicating with Russians.”
Later, Rosenstein noted that, “the nature of the scheme was the defendants took extraordinary steps to make it appear that they were ordinary American political activists, even going so far as to base their activities on a virtual private network here in the United States so, if anybody traced it back to that first jump, they appeared to be Americans.”
In other words, those who may have been paid by the Russians for social media ads, or to stage rallies, did not knowingly collude with the Russians.
Trump’s tweet goes beyond what Rosenstein and the indictment stated. His tweet assumes there is no investigation beyond what was revealed in the Feb. 16 indictment. And we just don’t know one way or the other what other things Mueller may be investigating.
Bloomberg reported after the indictment was announced that, “Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his prosecutors haven’t concluded their investigation into whether President Donald Trump or any of his associates helped Russia interfere in the 2016 e******n, according to a person with knowledge of the probe.”
As for Trump’s claim that the indictment indicates that “the results of the e******n were not impacted,” that also goes beyond what Rosenstein said.
Again, Rosenstein said, “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.” That’s consistent with a declassified intelligence report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that was released on J*** 6, 2017. That report accused Russia of meddling in the 2016 e******n on Trump’s behalf, but it “did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcomes of the 2016 e******n.”
According to that DNI report, “The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion.”
As we wrote when Vice President Mike Pence recently repeated the false talking point that U.S. intelligence agencies came to the “universal conclusion” that Russia’s meddling had no impact on the e******n results, the intelligence community has not concluded one way or the other if Russia’s influence campaign affected the e******n outcome.
In this case, Rosenstein acknowledged there was “no allegation” in the indictment that the Russians’ social media campaign or rallies swayed v**es. The impact of these activities is possibly unknowable.
ue Russia investigation

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/02/trump-no-collusion/
A tweet from trump and a WH statement, claims the ... (show quote)


Are you really unaware of why the HildaBeast lost the e******n, Moldy?

Holy Batman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVogLdbfOfQ

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Mar 25, 2019 14:10:49   #
cbpat1
 
EmilyD wrote:
For 2 years Rachel Maddow has incessantly lead MSNBC in selling us the fairy tale that Trump colluded with Russia. She could barely keep from sobbing as she reported that there will be no indictments for Trump or any member of his family. I think I'll send her a big box of tissues....because she's going to need it in 2020!




FOX was the only channel that called it the right way. They pretty much from the start took a wait and see attitude, and always said they never saw any collusion or obstruction. CNN & MSNBC trashed Trump 24/7 for over 2 years, like you say, even saying he worked as an agent of the Russian government. Honestly, they should apologize to our President, they owe him one, because, for 2 years they indeed were f**e news. I also think Kevin, Airforceone, woodguru and the rest of their gang deserve a big I TOLD YOU SO!

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Mar 25, 2019 14:16:47   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
cbpat1 wrote:
FOX was the only channel that called it the right way. They pretty much from the start took a wait and see attitude, and always said they never saw any collusion or obstruction. CNN & MSNBC trashed Trump 24/7 for over 2 years, like you say, even saying he worked as an agent of the Russian government. Honestly, they should apologize to our President, they owe him one, because, for 2 years they indeed were f**e news. I also think Kevin, Airforceone, woodguru and the rest of their gang deserve a big I TOLD YOU SO!
FOX was the only channel that called it the right ... (show quote)


" I also think Kevin, Airforceone, woodguru (MoldyOldy, Morgan, permafrost) and the rest of their gang deserve a big I TOLD YOU SO!" - cbpat1

A lot of us are waiting for an apology.

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Mar 25, 2019 14:18:05   #
zillaorange
 
moldyoldy wrote:
A tweet from trump and a WH statement, claims the indictment handed down against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations for illegally interfering in the 2016 e******n indicates there was “no collusion” between Russians and the Trump campaign, and that “the results of the e******n were not impacted.” But the indictment did not go that far on either count.
The indictment alleges the defendants used the names of U.S. citizens and companies to illegally buy political ads on social media and stage political rallies.
Although some of the activity dated back to 2014, the indictment states that by early to mid-2016, the defendants’ operation included supporting Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton.
According to the indictment, “Some defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”
In a Feb. 16 press conference announcing the indictment, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein reiterated that the communications established by the defendants were made with “unwitting Americans.”
“Now, there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity,” Rosenstein said. “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.

A press release issued by White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders echoed those points.
Statement from the press secretary regarding the Russia Indictments, Feb. 16: President Donald J. Trump has been fully briefed on this matter and is glad to see the Special Counsel’s investigation further indicates — that there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia and that the outcome of the e******n was not changed or affected.
But that’s not what Rosenstein, or the indictment presented by the U.S. special counsel’s office, stated.
Rosenstein merely stated that there was no allegation in “this indictment” that any Americans — including those in the Trump campaign — wittingly participated in “this illegal activity.” (Emphasis is ours.)
According to Rosenstein, the Russians “recruited and paid real Americans to engage in political activities, promote political campaigns and stage political rallies. The defendants and their co-conspirators pretended to be grassroots activists. According to the indictment, the Americans did not know that they were communicating with Russians.”
Later, Rosenstein noted that, “the nature of the scheme was the defendants took extraordinary steps to make it appear that they were ordinary American political activists, even going so far as to base their activities on a virtual private network here in the United States so, if anybody traced it back to that first jump, they appeared to be Americans.”
In other words, those who may have been paid by the Russians for social media ads, or to stage rallies, did not knowingly collude with the Russians.
Trump’s tweet goes beyond what Rosenstein and the indictment stated. His tweet assumes there is no investigation beyond what was revealed in the Feb. 16 indictment. And we just don’t know one way or the other what other things Mueller may be investigating.
Bloomberg reported after the indictment was announced that, “Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his prosecutors haven’t concluded their investigation into whether President Donald Trump or any of his associates helped Russia interfere in the 2016 e******n, according to a person with knowledge of the probe.”
As for Trump’s claim that the indictment indicates that “the results of the e******n were not impacted,” that also goes beyond what Rosenstein said.
Again, Rosenstein said, “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.” That’s consistent with a declassified intelligence report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that was released on J*** 6, 2017. That report accused Russia of meddling in the 2016 e******n on Trump’s behalf, but it “did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcomes of the 2016 e******n.”
According to that DNI report, “The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion.”
As we wrote when Vice President Mike Pence recently repeated the false talking point that U.S. intelligence agencies came to the “universal conclusion” that Russia’s meddling had no impact on the e******n results, the intelligence community has not concluded one way or the other if Russia’s influence campaign affected the e******n outcome.
In this case, Rosenstein acknowledged there was “no allegation” in the indictment that the Russians’ social media campaign or rallies swayed v**es. The impact of these activities is possibly unknowable.
ue Russia investigation

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/02/trump-no-collusion/
A tweet from trump and a WH statement, claims the ... (show quote)


So, all you're telling me is the U.S., Russia & China meddle with each others e******ns ! Your quotes PROVES my assertion, based on the Mueller report, the conclusion of collusion on the part of President Trump or his e******n team is proven WRONG !!! What is it you're trying to tell me other than what I already know ?

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Mar 25, 2019 14:24:13   #
zillaorange
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Are you really unaware of why the HildaBeast lost the e******n, Moldy?

Holy Batman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVogLdbfOfQ


Their desperation is growing by the SECOND !!! First they couldn't handle T***p w*n ! Now that it appears, I won't swear to that until I read the report myself, there was NO COLLUSION with Russia by Trump or his team ! Maybe they should take a Valium & a long hot bath so they can relax enough to make any sense !!! As if that can be achieved LOL.

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Mar 25, 2019 14:39:33   #
zillaorange
 
cbpat1 wrote:
FOX was the only channel that called it the right way. They pretty much from the start took a wait and see attitude, and always said they never saw any collusion or obstruction. CNN & MSNBC trashed Trump 24/7 for over 2 years, like you say, even saying he worked as an agent of the Russian government. Honestly, they should apologize to our President, they owe him one, because, for 2 years they indeed were f**e news. I also think Kevin, Airforceone, woodguru and the rest of their gang deserve a big I TOLD YOU SO!
FOX was the only channel that called it the right ... (show quote)


Off subject, hope you don't mind, are you into cb's ?

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Mar 25, 2019 15:51:53   #
moldyoldy
 
zillaorange wrote:
So, all you're telling me is the U.S., Russia & China meddle with each others e******ns ! Your quotes PROVES my assertion, based on the Mueller report, the conclusion of collusion on the part of President Trump or his e******n team is proven WRONG !!! What is it you're trying to tell me other than what I already know ?


They could not prove trump directly colluded, but others are in jail right now, with more coming.

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Mar 25, 2019 16:04:00   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They could not prove trump directly colluded, but others are in jail right now, with more coming.


YEP! Democrats and RINOS will be on their way to jail now.
There is a legitimate AG now.

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Mar 25, 2019 16:16:18   #
zillaorange
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They could not prove trump directly colluded, but others are in jail right now, with more coming.


It has to be determined who did what, when & why. Instead of battleing each other we should be try 1st to gather info, from all sides, weed out the garbage & see if any good can come from the forum !

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Mar 25, 2019 16:24:47   #
Hardwork1
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The main stream media, the deep state, the heads of government agencies, Select OPP contributors like Perm and Kevy all need to get out the scrapers and peelers to remove the “egg of their faces!” The ruse is over. Trump did not collude with Russia, there will be no indictments.

Now that the Democrat “lion mouths” have been defeated, it’s time to take steps against those who perpetrated this false narrative and used government officials to do their dirty work. Twenty five million taxpayer dollars spent with nothing to show for it. Go get em Horowitz and Barr!

The public deserves to see Justice served and see to it that “those who tried to thwart an e******n indicted, charged, prosecuted and incarcerated.” The tides have turned and justice will prevail!
The main stream media, the deep state, the heads o... (show quote)


The 25 million is just Mueller's expenses. The FBI and DOJ spent another 15 Million. Current estimate is 40 million and climbing!

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Mar 25, 2019 16:45:52   #
cbpat1
 
zillaorange wrote:
Off subject, hope you don't mind, are you into cb's ?



No, I live in Cocoa Beach.

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