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Mar 20, 2019 20:05:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Not your place but you do it anyway....

According to your 'analysis' there are many on this forum who present with significant markers for abused childhoods.


My mother still regrets not abusing us enough... Recalling some of my 'adventures' as a teenager I must agree with her

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Mar 20, 2019 20:08:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
Ha, the ass doth speaketh! Let's get a couple things cleared up first. My brother and I had wonderful, caring and loving parents. Strict, but loving. I still remember some of their simple wisdom. "Little children little problems. Big children, bigger problems." "Having children doesn't make you love them. Caring for children causes you to love them." Many, many other sayings and a simple philosophy. I've been happily, actually blissfully, married for 56 years. We raised two magnificent children who never gave us trouble, we were and remain a very close family. Both children, never divorced, have loving marriages and live good lives. One just celebrated their 25th. They, because of their parents and the way they were raised, also raised their own children with traditional morals, values and spirituality - those "things that work."

Your so called psychological "markers"
made me smile. "I was a crisis counselor" you tout! Psychology, the new age religion along with psychological social workers who eased out providing trained clergy to crisis situations. We were handling crisis situations long before Freud. Psychology, that science, that has been found to tell couples having marital troubles to go out and have an affair. Based on my own experience and the sinful markers I discover in your Progressive philosophy, it's obvious you've had several affairs. Now tell me, how dumb is that?

Anyone notice that clergy are no longer called into situations that require a so called "grief counselor?" Don't know why this is since so many denominations now require heaps of psychology training in their seminaries. Evidently secular society doesn't want the taint of God interfering in their crisis management. So why are we experiencing marked increases in mental/spiritual illness with all the help and assistance of the new age counselors: both the secular and spiritual? Give people a pill for life is their solution. No wonder zombie movies and TV programs are popular. It's real life in today's society.

Of course you correctly discern anger in some of my comments. That's because at 78 I'm smart enough to be angry at the stupid, sinful and destructive behavior you progressive jerks have promoted as normal, natural and healthful. You murder our unborn children in the womb and you murder their souls with your hedonistic philosophy and agenda. Every half way normal and descent God loving person should be angry at what Progressive's advocate and are accomplishing in our societies..

Please put your little mind at rest. When I'm not programming part of my busy day defending the faith and my nation I live a very peaceful and sublime life; a very spiritual and contemplative life - it's habitual now. But, thanks be to God, I'm not too old or passive to tolerate the type of BS you Progressives shovel out. You see, unlike you, we know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil and we fight against evil. It's not nearly as important to fight and win against evil as it is to fight, to resist. The winner is a foregone conclusion.

Now enlighten me and explain how you believe those many affairs helped you cope with life.
Ha, the ass doth speaketh! Let's get a couple thi... (show quote)


This is the third response you have written this evening that impresses me... Most of what you say I find myself in agreement with...

I have always found Priests to be better equiped at handling trauma and tragedy of the 'psychological' variety... And they help out of love... Not for a paycheck.... That alone says something....

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Mar 20, 2019 20:20:34   #
eden
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
This is the third response you have written this evening that impresses me... Most of what you say I find myself in agreement with...

I have always found Priests to be better equiped at handling trauma and tragedy of the 'psychological' variety... And they help out of love... Not for a paycheck.... That alone says something....


More than half of the work I did was volunteer
based and there were people from all backgrounds who trained with me. A few ministers but not many. Their narrow doctrinaire views of emotional problems tended to limit their effectiveness, particularly with domestic abuse. Exchanging one power and control paradigm for a religious one does not enable the client to self actualize and break out of the victim conundrum.

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Mar 20, 2019 20:34:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
eden wrote:
More than half of the work I did was volunteer
based and there were people from all backgrounds who trained with me. A few ministers but not many. Their narrow doctrinaire views of emotional problems tended to limit their effectiveness, particularly with domestic abuse. Exchanging one power and control paradigm for a religious one does not enable the client to self actualize and break out of the victim conundrum.



Good evening Eden...

Hope you are well ..

I was not attempting to minimalize your efforts.... I am sure that you have helped many and are a lovely soul...

Yet there is much to be said for the strength of faith... And the strengh of community that often comes with it...

I can only speak to my own experiences...

Your friend, Kyle

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Mar 20, 2019 21:50:30   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
eden wrote:
More than half of the work I did was volunteer
based and there were people from all backgrounds who trained with me. A few ministers but not many. Their narrow doctrinaire views of emotional problems tended to limit their effectiveness, particularly with domestic abuse. Exchanging one power and control paradigm for a religious one does not enable the client to self actualize and break out of the victim conundrum.


Odd that you believe doctrine (t***h) to be narrow and ineffective. I expect this is your own personal anti-God philosophy and your Mazlow's approach to be more effective for victims to self-actualize and other nonsensical psychological BS. At least we know now what god you worship. Please allow me to share with you an ancient prayer for a different type of self-actualizing: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, please deliver me from self-love, vainglory, willfulness, false idols and thinking I'm always right. Take all my passions (sins) and turn them into love! These things I humbly pray in Your Holy Name. Amen.

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Mar 20, 2019 21:50:50   #
Rose42
 
eden wrote:
More than half of the work I did was volunteer
based and there were people from all backgrounds who trained with me. A few ministers but not many. Their narrow doctrinaire views of emotional problems tended to limit their effectiveness, particularly with domestic abuse. Exchanging one power and control paradigm for a religious one does not enable the client to self actualize and break out of the victim conundrum.


That depends on the individual pastor. For example there are programs for alcholism run by Christians whose success rate far exceeds any secular programs. There are reasons for that. Other programs have high success rates as well.

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Mar 21, 2019 03:15:25   #
eden
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Good evening Eden...

Hope you are well ..

I was not attempting to minimalize your efforts.... I am sure that you have helped many and are a lovely soul...

Yet there is much to be said for the strength of faith... And the strengh of community that often comes with it...

I can only speak to my own experiences...

Your friend, Kyle



I did not suggest that faith has no strength, merely that my experience with ministers in the capacity of counselors was not universally positive and the reason given by the instructors for this was because the temptation to proselytize was overwhelming for some and measurably detrimental to the interests of the client when it occurred.

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Mar 21, 2019 03:40:51   #
eden
 
padremike wrote:
Odd that you believe doctrine (t***h) to be narrow and ineffective. I expect this is your own personal anti-God philosophy and your Mazlow's approach to be more effective for victims to self-actualize and other nonsensical psychological BS. At least we know now what god you worship. Please allow me to share with you an ancient prayer for a different type of self-actualizing: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, please deliver me from self-love, vainglory, willfulness, false idols and thinking I'm always right. Take all my passions (sins) and turn them into love! These things I humbly pray in Your Holy Name. Amen.
Odd that you believe doctrine (t***h) to be narrow... (show quote)


Perhaps you should look up the meaning of doctrine. It does not necessarily align with t***h. Your assertion that I am anti-God is nonsense as is your ignorant and sweeping dismissal of modern psychology.
You cannot possibly know what or whom I worship but it seems to give comfort to your fear of the unknown to categorize people or events that are outside your sphere of comprehension,

Thank you for sharing your noble prayer. Perhaps you could send this to the president who could sorely use some pastoral counseling, particularly the plea to be delivered from "self-love, vainglory, willfulness, false idols, and thinking I am always right. Take all my passions (sins) and turn them into love!"

I could not pray for better for this angry isolated man.

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Mar 21, 2019 03:59:06   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
eden wrote:
I did not suggest that faith has no strength, merely that my experience with ministers in the capacity of counselors was not universally positive and the reason given by the instructors for this was because the temptation to proselytize was overwhelming for some and measurably detrimental to the interests of the client when it occurred.


I would agree with that statement... Not everyone is cut out to be a counselor and not every man who preaches the word of God is truly qualified to do so...

Hope you are well today Eden...

Your friend, Kyle

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Mar 21, 2019 10:54:08   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
eden wrote:
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of doctrine. It does not necessarily align with t***h. Your assertion that I am anti-God is nonsense as is your ignorant and sweeping dismissal of modern psychology.
You cannot possibly know what or whom I worship but it seems to give comfort to your fear of the unknown to categorize people or events that are outside your sphere of comprehension,

Thank you for sharing your noble prayer. Perhaps you could send this to the president who could sorely use some pastoral counseling, particularly the plea to be delivered from "self-love, vainglory, willfulness, false idols, and thinking I am always right. Take all my passions (sins) and turn them into love!"

I could not pray for better for this angry isolated man.
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of doctrine... (show quote)


I already suspected you defined your own t***h like the majority of moral relativistic Progressives do.

So far as who or what you believe it is an easy WAG to figure the best you can do is to create a deity with whom you're perfectly comfortable. I suspect he's a psyche major too.

"My fear of the unknown." What sort of psych-babble nonsense is this meant to be? Foolish woman. What do I fear? Death? Certainly not and I'm closer to it every day. There were times in the military when death was not at all a comfort. I was a young man with a beautiful wife and a full life before me. You've got me searching for what I fear and my only fear is for something to happen to our children and grandchildren. Oh, I do fear Progressives gaining control over the nation but that returns to my concern for our children and grandchildren. Progressives promote evil. It's actually just that simple; cut and dried, black and white.

It's funny, as in peculiar not, ha ha, that you "project" a prayer given for you to Trump because he evidently has anger markers with which you might be able to help him. We applaud your sincere and genuine benevolence. (dripping with sarcasm.)

From our short conversations what I hear you saying is that you have a compelling desire to have another affair and you h**e yourself because you're uncontrollably attracted to Donald Trump. Have I unintentionally exposed your own greatest fear? Bless your little heart.

I hope my psychological comments and assessments come back to you as stupid, ignorant and useless as your own were to me. Now try and separate fact from fiction.

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Mar 21, 2019 12:37:47   #
eden
 
padremike wrote:
I already suspected you defined your own t***h like the majority of moral relativistic Progressives do.

So far as who or what you believe it is an easy WAG to figure the best you can do is to create a deity with whom you're perfectly comfortable. I suspect he's a psyche major too.

"My fear of the unknown." What sort of psych-babble nonsense is this meant to be? Foolish woman. What do I fear? Death? Certainly not and I'm closer to it every day. There were times in the military when death was not at all a comfort. I was a young man with a beautiful wife and a full life before me. You've got me searching for what I fear and my only fear is for something to happen to our children and grandchildren. Oh, I do fear Progressives gaining control over the nation but that returns to my concern for our children and grandchildren. Progressives promote evil. It's actually just that simple; cut and dried, black and white.

It's funny, as in peculiar not, ha ha, that you "project" a prayer given for you to Trump because he evidently has anger markers with which you might be able to help him. We applaud your sincere and genuine benevolence. (dripping with sarcasm.)

From our short conversations what I hear you saying is that you have a compelling desire to have another affair and you h**e yourself because you're uncontrollably attracted to Donald Trump. Have I unintentionally exposed your own greatest fear? Bless your little heart.

I hope my psychological comments and assessments come back to you as stupid, ignorant and useless as your own were to me. Now try and separate fact from fiction.
I already suspected you defined your own t***h lik... (show quote)



Matthew 7:3

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Mar 21, 2019 17:08:30   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
eden wrote:
Matthew 7:3


Doesn't apply here! Try again!

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Mar 21, 2019 23:41:14   #
eden
 
padremike wrote:
Doesn't apply here! Try again!



Oh I think it does apply to your angry hostile tone and judgemental commentary. Do you really think people are uplifted by this kind of talk? Do you speak in this dogmatic belligerent way to peoples face? Do you speak this way to your family and friends? Your way or the highway?

You are not on trial here but neither am I. It is easier to consider an opinion even if different to our own if it is delivered in a straightforward way, not freighted down by distracting invective and threatening demeanor.
As to your ill considered prayer it did unfortunately seem designed exactly for Trump, particularly in view of his h**eful rants against the fallen warrior John McCain over the last 24 hours.

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Mar 22, 2019 09:48:12   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
eden wrote:
Oh I think it does apply to your angry hostile tone and judgemental commentary. Do you really think people are uplifted by this kind of talk? Do you speak in this dogmatic belligerent way to peoples face? Do you speak this way to your family and friends? Your way or the highway?

You are not on trial here but neither am I. It is easier to consider an opinion even if different to our own if it is delivered in a straightforward way, not freighted down by distracting invective and threatening demeanor.
As to your ill considered prayer it did unfortunately seem designed exactly for Trump, particularly in view of his h**eful rants against the fallen warrior John McCain over the last 24 hours.
Oh I think it does apply to your angry hostile ton... (show quote)


I'm sorry if I've mislead you so let's understand this one thing. I have no motivation to lift you up! I'm trying to expose you for the bloody progressive cancer you represent, the disgrace to womanhood you present, the person so full of psycho-babble it's apparent you've been under treatment for years yourself, and finally your sophomoric attempt to "project" your own psychosis on someone you disagree with and don't like. (We all know and recognize the use of psycho-babble lingo.) Why would you believe you deserve my patience when you represent much of what I spent in the military and the ministry resisting?

So far as John McCain goes, he was a bastard to the Left until he defied Trump in his petty ass thumbs down on Obamacare and suddenly he's your darling. Proof how schizophrenic you people are. Personally, I believe he was a SOB.

FYI - prior to my ordination I was required to undergo extensive psychological/psychiatric testing. I've got a certificate that says I'm sane. I'll show you mine if you can show me yours. I've also got verification that I'm naturally male. I personally didn't need a paper for that affirmation but with the weird crap progressives have introduced amongst us for some time already it was required even 30 years ago.

I've readily admitted that I'm angry. Congratulations inasmuch as your grasp of the obvious is definitely improving. I'm very angry that Progressives have murdered 60 million unborn children. I'm angry that same sex couples can become married diminishing the legitimacy of holy matrimony. I'm angry that homosexuality is now seen as natural, normal and healthy. I'm angry that there are 60 different g****rs people can choose to adopt regardless of their natural biology. I'm angry at what is happening to our children, to our families, in our schools, our communities and nation. Now is the time to get out your little hammer and chisel and chip it in stone that the things I'm angry at, and their root cause, are normal and highly correct issues to cause righteous anger. In plain speak, normal people are also angry with me. If you support those issues I'm against, then you're the one who is bat s**t crazy. It's proof you don't know right from wrong. We have no reason or motivation to compromise anything with the Progressive secular social agenda. You can chip that in stone too.

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Mar 22, 2019 10:07:45   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
padremike wrote:
I already suspected you defined your own t***h like the majority of moral relativistic Progressives do.

So far as who or what you believe it is an easy WAG to figure the best you can do is to create a deity with whom you're perfectly comfortable. I suspect he's a psyche major too.

"My fear of the unknown." What sort of psych-babble nonsense is this meant to be? Foolish woman. What do I fear? Death? Certainly not and I'm closer to it every day. There were times in the military when death was not at all a comfort. I was a young man with a beautiful wife and a full life before me. You've got me searching for what I fear and my only fear is for something to happen to our children and grandchildren. Oh, I do fear Progressives gaining control over the nation but that returns to my concern for our children and grandchildren. Progressives promote evil. It's actually just that simple; cut and dried, black and white.

It's funny, as in peculiar not, ha ha, that you "project" a prayer given for you to Trump because he evidently has anger markers with which you might be able to help him. We applaud your sincere and genuine benevolence. (dripping with sarcasm.)

From our short conversations what I hear you saying is that you have a compelling desire to have another affair and you h**e yourself because you're uncontrollably attracted to Donald Trump. Have I unintentionally exposed your own greatest fear? Bless your little heart.

I hope my psychological comments and assessments come back to you as stupid, ignorant and useless as your own were to me. Now try and separate fact from fiction.
I already suspected you defined your own t***h lik... (show quote)


Now that was on target, padre!
Lets read it again boys and girls;

"I already suspected you defined your own t***h like the majority of moral relativistic Progressives do.

So far as who or what you believe it is an easy WAG to figure the best you can do is to create a deity with whom you're perfectly comfortable. I suspect he's a psyche major too.

"My fear of the unknown." What sort of psych-babble nonsense is this meant to be? Foolish woman. What do I fear? Death? Certainly not and I'm closer to it every day. There were times in the military when death was not at all a comfort. I was a young man with a beautiful wife and a full life before me. You've got me searching for what I fear and my only fear is for something to happen to our children and grandchildren. Oh, I do fear Progressives gaining control over the nation but that returns to my concern for our children and grandchildren. Progressives promote evil. It's actually just that simple; cut and dried, black and white.

It's funny, as in peculiar not, ha ha, that you "project" a prayer given for you to Trump because he evidently has anger markers with which you might be able to help him. We applaud your sincere and genuine benevolence. (dripping with sarcasm.)

From our short conversations what I hear you saying is that you have a compelling desire to have another affair and you h**e yourself because you're uncontrollably attracted to Donald Trump. Have I unintentionally exposed your own greatest fear? Bless your little heart.

I hope my psychological comments and assessments come back to you as stupid, ignorant and useless as your own were to me.
Now try and separate fact from fiction."

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