Interview with a Retired V*****e Researcher
Mar 15, 2019 15:49:19 #
Interview with a Retired V*****e Researcher
by Jon Rappoport
“[These days,] If I had a child, the last thing I would allow is [my child to be v******ted].”
by Jon Rappoport
Dr. Mark Randall is the pseudonym of a v*****e researcher who worked for many years in the labs of major pharmaceutical houses and the US government’s National Institutes of Health.
Mark retired in the 1990s. He says he was “disgusted with what he discovered about v*****es.”
As you know, since the beginning of NoMoreF**eNews, I continue to launch attacks against non-scientific and dangerous assertions about the safety and efficacy of v*****es.
Mark was one of my early sources.
At the time this interview was originally published — in January 2002, Mark was a little reluctant to speak out, even under the cover of anonymity. But, with the push to make v*****es mandatory and with penalties like quarantine lurking in the wings (even back then), he decided to break his silence.
Like many of my sources, he developed a conscience about his former work. Mark was well aware of the scope of the medical cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and general debilitation of populations.
(Q) Jon Rappoport
(A) Retired V*****e Researcher (given the pseudonym of “Dr. Mark Randall”)
Q: You were once certain that v*****es were the hallmark of good medicine.
A: Yes I was. I helped develop a few v*****es. I won’t say which ones.
Q: Why not?
A: I want to preserve my privacy.
Q: So you think you could have problems if you came out into the open?
A: I believe I could lose my pension.
Q: On what grounds?
A: The grounds don’t matter. These people have ways of causing you problems, when you were once part of the Club. I know one or two people who were put under surveillance, who were harassed.
Q: Harassed by whom?
A: The FBI.
Q: Really?
A: Sure. The FBI used other pretexts. And the IRS can come calling too.
Q: So much for free speech.
A: I was “part of the inner circle.” If now I began to name names and make specific accusations against researchers, I could be in a world of trouble.
Q: What is at the bottom of these efforts at harassment?
A: V*****es are the last defense of modern medicine. V*****es are the ultimate justification for the overall “brilliance” of modern medicine.
Q: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose whether they should get v*****es?
A: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people need information, so that they can choose well. It’s one thing to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies, how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable people, these v*****es would not be granted licenses. They would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.
Q: There are medical historians who state that the overall decline of illnesses was not due to v*****es.
A: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.
Q: Why?
A: Because I was afraid of what I would find out. I was in the business of developing v*****es. My livelihood depended on continuing that work.
Q: And then?
A: I did my own investigation.
Q: What conclusions did you come to?
A: The decline of disease is due to improved living conditions.
Q: What conditions?
A: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but when you are healthy, you don’t contract the diseases as easily.
Q: What did you feel when you completed your own investigation?
A: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a collection of lies.
Q: Are some v*****es more dangerous than others?
A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a v*****e are more dangerous than other lots of the same v*****e. As far as I’m concerned, all v*****es are dangerous.
Q: Why?
A: Several reasons. They involve the human i****e s****m in a process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent.
Q: Why are we quoted statistics which seem to prove that v*****es have been tremendously successful at wiping out diseases?
A: Why? To give the illusion that these v*****es are useful. If a v*****e suppresses visible symptoms of a disease like measles, everyone assumes that the v*****e is a success. But, under the surface, the v*****e can harm the i****e s****m itself. And if it causes other diseases — say, meningitis — that fact is masked, because no one believes that the v*****e can do that. The connection is overlooked.
Q: It is said that the smallpox v*****e wiped out smallpox in England.
A: Yes. But when you study the available statistics, you get another picture.
Q: Which is?
A: There were cities in England where people who were not v******ted did not get smallpox. There were places where people who were v******ted experienced smallpox epidemics. And smallpox was already on the decline before the v*****e was introduced.
Q: So you’re saying that we have been treated to a false history.
A: Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. This is a history that has been cooked up to convince people that v*****es are invariably safe and effective.
Q: Now, you worked in labs. Where purity was an issue.
A: The public believes that these labs, these manufacturing facilities are the cleanest places in the world. That is not true. Contamination occurs all the time. You get all sorts of debris introduced into v*****es.
Q: For example, the SV40 monkey v***s slips into the polio v*****e.
A: Well yes, that happened. But that’s not what I mean. The SV40 got into the polio v*****e because the v*****e was made by using monkey kidneys. But I’m talking about something else. The actual lab conditions. The mistakes. The careless errors. SV40, which was later found in cancer tumors — that was what I would call a structural problem. It was an accepted part of the manufacturing process. If you use monkey kidneys, you open the door to germs which you don’t know are in those kidneys.
Q: Okay, but let’s ignore that distinction between different types of contaminants for a moment. What contaminants did you find in your many years of work with v*****es?
A: All right. I’ll give you some of what I came across, and I’ll also give you what colleagues of mine found. Here’s a partial list. In the Rimavex measles v*****e, we found various chicken v***ses. In polio v*****e, we found acanthamoeba, which is a so-called “brain-eating” amoeba.
Simian cytomegalov***s in polio v*****e. Simian foamy v***s in the rotav***s v*****e. Bird-cancer v***ses in the MMR v*****e. Various micro-organisms in the anthrax v*****e. I’ve found potentially dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several v*****es. Duck, dog, and rabbit v***ses in the rubella v*****e. Avian leucosis v***s in the flu v*****e. Pestiv***s in the MMR v*****e.
Q: Let me get this straight. These are all contaminants which don’t belong in the v*****es.
A: That’s right. And if you try to calculate what damage these contaminants can cause, well, we don’t really know, because no testing has been done, or very little testing. It’s a game of roulette. You take your chances. Also, most people don’t know that some polio v*****es, adenov***s v*****es, rubella and hep A and measles v*****es have been made with aborted human fetal tissue. I have found what I believed were bacterial fragments and poliov***s in these v*****es from time to time — which may have come from that fetal tissue. When you look for contaminants in v*****es, you can come up with material that IS puzzling. You know it shouldn’t be there, but you don’t know exactly what you’ve got. I have found what I believed was a very small “fragment” of human hair and also human mucus. I have found what can only be called “foreign protein,” which could mean almost anything. It could mean protein from v***ses.
Q: Alarm bells are ringing all over the place.
A: How do you think I felt? Remember, this material is going into the bloodstream without passing through some of the ordinary immune defenses.
Q: How were your findings received?
A: Basically, it was, don’t worry, this can’t be helped. In making v*****es, you use various animals’ tissue, and that’s where this kind of contamination enters in. Of course, I’m not even mentioning the standard chemicals like formaldehyde, mercury, and aluminum which are purposely put into v*****es.
Q: This information is pretty staggering.
A: Yes. And I’m just mentioning some of the biological contaminants. Who knows how many others there are? Others we don’t find because we don’t think to look for them. If tissue from, say, a bird is used to make a v*****e, how many possible germs can be in that tissue? We have no idea. We have no idea what they might be, or what effects they could have on humans.
Q: And beyond the purity issue?
A: You are dealing with the basic faulty premise about v*****es. That they intricately stimulate the i****e s****m to create the conditions for immunity from disease. That is the bad premise. It doesn’t work that way. A v*****e is supposed to “create” antibodies which, indirectly, offer protection against disease. However, the i****e s****m is much larger and more involved than antibodies and their related “k**ler cells.”
Q: The i****e s****m is?
A: The entire body, really. Plus the mind. It’s all i****e s****m, you might say. That is why you can have, in the middle of an epidemic, those individuals who remain healthy.
Q: So the level of general health is important.
A: More than important. Vital.
Q: How are v*****e statistics falsely presented?
A: There are many ways. For example, suppose that 25 people who have received the hepatitis B v*****e come down with hepatitis. Well, hep B is a liver disease. But you can call liver disease many things. You can change the diagnosis. Then, you’ve concealed the root cause of the problem.
Q: And that happens?
A: All the time. It HAS to happen, if the doctors automatically assume that people who get v*****es DO NOT come down with the diseases they are now supposed to be protected from. And that is exactly what doctors assume. You see, it’s circular reasoning. It’s a closed system. It admits no fault. No possible fault. If a person who gets a v*****e against hepatitis gets hepatitis, or gets some other disease, the automatic assumption is, this had nothing to do with the disease.
Q: In your years working in the v*****e establishment, how many doctors did you encounter who admitted that v*****es were a problem?
A: None. There were a few who privately questioned what they were doing. But they would never go public, even within their companies.
Q: What was the turning point for you?
A: I had a friend whose baby died after a DPT shot.
Q: Did you investigate?
A: Yes, informally. I found that this baby was completely healthy before the v******tion. There was no reason for his death, except the v*****e. That started my doubts. Of course, I wanted to believe that the baby had gotten a bad shot from a bad lot. But as I looked into this further, I found that was not the case in this instance. I was being drawn into a spiral of doubt that increased over time. I continued to investigate. I found that, contrary to what I thought, v*****es are not tested in a scientific way.
Q: What do you mean?
A: For example, no long-term studies are done on any v*****es. Long-term follow-up is not done in any careful way. Why? Because, again, the assumption is made that v*****es do not cause problems. So why should anyone check? On top of that, a v*****e reaction is defined so that all bad reactions are said to occur very soon after the shot is given. But that does not make sense.
Q: Why doesn’t it make sense?
A: Because the v*****e obviously acts in the body for a long period of time after it is given. A reaction can be gradual. Deterioration can be gradual. Neurological problems can develop over time. They do in various conditions, even according to a conventional analysis. So why couldn’t that be the case with v*****es? If chemical poisoning can occur gradually, why couldn’t that be the case with a v*****e which contains mercury?
Q: And that is what you found?
A: Yes. You are dealing with correlations, most of the time.Correlations are not perfect. But if you get 500 parents whose children have suffered neurological damage during a one-year period after having a v*****e, this should be sufficient to spark off an intense investigation.
Q: Has it been enough?
A: No. Never. This tells you something right away.
Q: Which is?
A: The people doing the investigation are not really interested in looking at the facts. They assume that the v*****es are safe. So, when they do investigate, they invariably come up with exonerations of the v*****es. They say, “This v*****e is safe.” But what do they base those judgments on? They base them on definitions and ideas which automatically rule out a condemnation of the v*****e.
Q: There are numerous cases where a v*****e campaign has failed. Where people have come down with the disease against which they were v******ted.
A: Yes, there are many such instances. And there the evidence is simply ignored. It’s discounted. The experts say, if they say anything at all, that this is just an isolated situation, but overall the v*****e has been shown to be safe. But if you add up all the v*****e campaigns where damage and disease have occurred, you realize that these are NOT isolated situations.
Q: Did you ever discuss what we are talking about here with colleagues, when you were still working in the v*****e establishment?
A: Yes I did.
Q: What happened?
A: Several times I was told to keep quiet. It was made clear that I should go back to work and forget my misgivings. On a few occasions, I encountered fear. Colleagues tried to avoid me. They felt they could be labeled with “guilt by association.” All in all, though, I behaved myself.I made sure I didn’t create problems for myself.
by Jon Rappoport
“[These days,] If I had a child, the last thing I would allow is [my child to be v******ted].”
by Jon Rappoport
Dr. Mark Randall is the pseudonym of a v*****e researcher who worked for many years in the labs of major pharmaceutical houses and the US government’s National Institutes of Health.
Mark retired in the 1990s. He says he was “disgusted with what he discovered about v*****es.”
As you know, since the beginning of NoMoreF**eNews, I continue to launch attacks against non-scientific and dangerous assertions about the safety and efficacy of v*****es.
Mark was one of my early sources.
At the time this interview was originally published — in January 2002, Mark was a little reluctant to speak out, even under the cover of anonymity. But, with the push to make v*****es mandatory and with penalties like quarantine lurking in the wings (even back then), he decided to break his silence.
Like many of my sources, he developed a conscience about his former work. Mark was well aware of the scope of the medical cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and general debilitation of populations.
(Q) Jon Rappoport
(A) Retired V*****e Researcher (given the pseudonym of “Dr. Mark Randall”)
Q: You were once certain that v*****es were the hallmark of good medicine.
A: Yes I was. I helped develop a few v*****es. I won’t say which ones.
Q: Why not?
A: I want to preserve my privacy.
Q: So you think you could have problems if you came out into the open?
A: I believe I could lose my pension.
Q: On what grounds?
A: The grounds don’t matter. These people have ways of causing you problems, when you were once part of the Club. I know one or two people who were put under surveillance, who were harassed.
Q: Harassed by whom?
A: The FBI.
Q: Really?
A: Sure. The FBI used other pretexts. And the IRS can come calling too.
Q: So much for free speech.
A: I was “part of the inner circle.” If now I began to name names and make specific accusations against researchers, I could be in a world of trouble.
Q: What is at the bottom of these efforts at harassment?
A: V*****es are the last defense of modern medicine. V*****es are the ultimate justification for the overall “brilliance” of modern medicine.
Q: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose whether they should get v*****es?
A: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people need information, so that they can choose well. It’s one thing to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies, how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable people, these v*****es would not be granted licenses. They would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.
Q: There are medical historians who state that the overall decline of illnesses was not due to v*****es.
A: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.
Q: Why?
A: Because I was afraid of what I would find out. I was in the business of developing v*****es. My livelihood depended on continuing that work.
Q: And then?
A: I did my own investigation.
Q: What conclusions did you come to?
A: The decline of disease is due to improved living conditions.
Q: What conditions?
A: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but when you are healthy, you don’t contract the diseases as easily.
Q: What did you feel when you completed your own investigation?
A: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a collection of lies.
Q: Are some v*****es more dangerous than others?
A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a v*****e are more dangerous than other lots of the same v*****e. As far as I’m concerned, all v*****es are dangerous.
Q: Why?
A: Several reasons. They involve the human i****e s****m in a process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent.
Q: Why are we quoted statistics which seem to prove that v*****es have been tremendously successful at wiping out diseases?
A: Why? To give the illusion that these v*****es are useful. If a v*****e suppresses visible symptoms of a disease like measles, everyone assumes that the v*****e is a success. But, under the surface, the v*****e can harm the i****e s****m itself. And if it causes other diseases — say, meningitis — that fact is masked, because no one believes that the v*****e can do that. The connection is overlooked.
Q: It is said that the smallpox v*****e wiped out smallpox in England.
A: Yes. But when you study the available statistics, you get another picture.
Q: Which is?
A: There were cities in England where people who were not v******ted did not get smallpox. There were places where people who were v******ted experienced smallpox epidemics. And smallpox was already on the decline before the v*****e was introduced.
Q: So you’re saying that we have been treated to a false history.
A: Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. This is a history that has been cooked up to convince people that v*****es are invariably safe and effective.
Q: Now, you worked in labs. Where purity was an issue.
A: The public believes that these labs, these manufacturing facilities are the cleanest places in the world. That is not true. Contamination occurs all the time. You get all sorts of debris introduced into v*****es.
Q: For example, the SV40 monkey v***s slips into the polio v*****e.
A: Well yes, that happened. But that’s not what I mean. The SV40 got into the polio v*****e because the v*****e was made by using monkey kidneys. But I’m talking about something else. The actual lab conditions. The mistakes. The careless errors. SV40, which was later found in cancer tumors — that was what I would call a structural problem. It was an accepted part of the manufacturing process. If you use monkey kidneys, you open the door to germs which you don’t know are in those kidneys.
Q: Okay, but let’s ignore that distinction between different types of contaminants for a moment. What contaminants did you find in your many years of work with v*****es?
A: All right. I’ll give you some of what I came across, and I’ll also give you what colleagues of mine found. Here’s a partial list. In the Rimavex measles v*****e, we found various chicken v***ses. In polio v*****e, we found acanthamoeba, which is a so-called “brain-eating” amoeba.
Simian cytomegalov***s in polio v*****e. Simian foamy v***s in the rotav***s v*****e. Bird-cancer v***ses in the MMR v*****e. Various micro-organisms in the anthrax v*****e. I’ve found potentially dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several v*****es. Duck, dog, and rabbit v***ses in the rubella v*****e. Avian leucosis v***s in the flu v*****e. Pestiv***s in the MMR v*****e.
Q: Let me get this straight. These are all contaminants which don’t belong in the v*****es.
A: That’s right. And if you try to calculate what damage these contaminants can cause, well, we don’t really know, because no testing has been done, or very little testing. It’s a game of roulette. You take your chances. Also, most people don’t know that some polio v*****es, adenov***s v*****es, rubella and hep A and measles v*****es have been made with aborted human fetal tissue. I have found what I believed were bacterial fragments and poliov***s in these v*****es from time to time — which may have come from that fetal tissue. When you look for contaminants in v*****es, you can come up with material that IS puzzling. You know it shouldn’t be there, but you don’t know exactly what you’ve got. I have found what I believed was a very small “fragment” of human hair and also human mucus. I have found what can only be called “foreign protein,” which could mean almost anything. It could mean protein from v***ses.
Q: Alarm bells are ringing all over the place.
A: How do you think I felt? Remember, this material is going into the bloodstream without passing through some of the ordinary immune defenses.
Q: How were your findings received?
A: Basically, it was, don’t worry, this can’t be helped. In making v*****es, you use various animals’ tissue, and that’s where this kind of contamination enters in. Of course, I’m not even mentioning the standard chemicals like formaldehyde, mercury, and aluminum which are purposely put into v*****es.
Q: This information is pretty staggering.
A: Yes. And I’m just mentioning some of the biological contaminants. Who knows how many others there are? Others we don’t find because we don’t think to look for them. If tissue from, say, a bird is used to make a v*****e, how many possible germs can be in that tissue? We have no idea. We have no idea what they might be, or what effects they could have on humans.
Q: And beyond the purity issue?
A: You are dealing with the basic faulty premise about v*****es. That they intricately stimulate the i****e s****m to create the conditions for immunity from disease. That is the bad premise. It doesn’t work that way. A v*****e is supposed to “create” antibodies which, indirectly, offer protection against disease. However, the i****e s****m is much larger and more involved than antibodies and their related “k**ler cells.”
Q: The i****e s****m is?
A: The entire body, really. Plus the mind. It’s all i****e s****m, you might say. That is why you can have, in the middle of an epidemic, those individuals who remain healthy.
Q: So the level of general health is important.
A: More than important. Vital.
Q: How are v*****e statistics falsely presented?
A: There are many ways. For example, suppose that 25 people who have received the hepatitis B v*****e come down with hepatitis. Well, hep B is a liver disease. But you can call liver disease many things. You can change the diagnosis. Then, you’ve concealed the root cause of the problem.
Q: And that happens?
A: All the time. It HAS to happen, if the doctors automatically assume that people who get v*****es DO NOT come down with the diseases they are now supposed to be protected from. And that is exactly what doctors assume. You see, it’s circular reasoning. It’s a closed system. It admits no fault. No possible fault. If a person who gets a v*****e against hepatitis gets hepatitis, or gets some other disease, the automatic assumption is, this had nothing to do with the disease.
Q: In your years working in the v*****e establishment, how many doctors did you encounter who admitted that v*****es were a problem?
A: None. There were a few who privately questioned what they were doing. But they would never go public, even within their companies.
Q: What was the turning point for you?
A: I had a friend whose baby died after a DPT shot.
Q: Did you investigate?
A: Yes, informally. I found that this baby was completely healthy before the v******tion. There was no reason for his death, except the v*****e. That started my doubts. Of course, I wanted to believe that the baby had gotten a bad shot from a bad lot. But as I looked into this further, I found that was not the case in this instance. I was being drawn into a spiral of doubt that increased over time. I continued to investigate. I found that, contrary to what I thought, v*****es are not tested in a scientific way.
Q: What do you mean?
A: For example, no long-term studies are done on any v*****es. Long-term follow-up is not done in any careful way. Why? Because, again, the assumption is made that v*****es do not cause problems. So why should anyone check? On top of that, a v*****e reaction is defined so that all bad reactions are said to occur very soon after the shot is given. But that does not make sense.
Q: Why doesn’t it make sense?
A: Because the v*****e obviously acts in the body for a long period of time after it is given. A reaction can be gradual. Deterioration can be gradual. Neurological problems can develop over time. They do in various conditions, even according to a conventional analysis. So why couldn’t that be the case with v*****es? If chemical poisoning can occur gradually, why couldn’t that be the case with a v*****e which contains mercury?
Q: And that is what you found?
A: Yes. You are dealing with correlations, most of the time.Correlations are not perfect. But if you get 500 parents whose children have suffered neurological damage during a one-year period after having a v*****e, this should be sufficient to spark off an intense investigation.
Q: Has it been enough?
A: No. Never. This tells you something right away.
Q: Which is?
A: The people doing the investigation are not really interested in looking at the facts. They assume that the v*****es are safe. So, when they do investigate, they invariably come up with exonerations of the v*****es. They say, “This v*****e is safe.” But what do they base those judgments on? They base them on definitions and ideas which automatically rule out a condemnation of the v*****e.
Q: There are numerous cases where a v*****e campaign has failed. Where people have come down with the disease against which they were v******ted.
A: Yes, there are many such instances. And there the evidence is simply ignored. It’s discounted. The experts say, if they say anything at all, that this is just an isolated situation, but overall the v*****e has been shown to be safe. But if you add up all the v*****e campaigns where damage and disease have occurred, you realize that these are NOT isolated situations.
Q: Did you ever discuss what we are talking about here with colleagues, when you were still working in the v*****e establishment?
A: Yes I did.
Q: What happened?
A: Several times I was told to keep quiet. It was made clear that I should go back to work and forget my misgivings. On a few occasions, I encountered fear. Colleagues tried to avoid me. They felt they could be labeled with “guilt by association.” All in all, though, I behaved myself.I made sure I didn’t create problems for myself.
Mar 15, 2019 16:40:22 #
Mar 15, 2019 17:48:38 #
Kevyn wrote:
Why do you spread this crap? This ignorance is k*****g people.
Oh goodness.
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate..
Mar 15, 2019 18:10:53 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
solarkin wrote:
Oh goodness.
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate..
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate..
That makes two. I have five doctors in my family. None believe this dangerous v******tion crap.
Mar 15, 2019 19:27:51 #
JFlorio wrote:
That makes two. I have five doctors in my family. None believe this dangerous v******tion crap.
We have three doctors, one who specializes in reactions to drugs and drug combinations that are dangerous. Ditto on the v******tion BS
Mar 16, 2019 11:23:18 #
solarkin wrote:
Oh goodness.
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate..
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate..
"Oh goodness.
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate.."
That should scare the hell out of you, solarkin.
Mar 16, 2019 13:04:46 #
eagleye13 wrote:
"Oh goodness.
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate.."
That should scare the hell out of you, solarkin.
Kevyn , This time I agree with you .
Way to go mate.."
That should scare the hell out of you, solarkin.
Nahhh,
Peace is better than conflict .
I know Kev has some different viewpoints on things ,but on this I agree with him.
Mar 16, 2019 13:21:30 #
solarkin wrote:
Nahhh,
Peace is better than conflict .
I know Kev has some different viewpoints on things ,but on this I agree with him.
Peace is better than conflict .
I know Kev has some different viewpoints on things ,but on this I agree with him.
I wasn't aware that this thread was about peace and conflict.
Mar 16, 2019 15:03:15 #
I know a phyisians assistant that had their shots both have autism! Coincidence? People that get the flu v*****e often get the flu! It is only a protectant to certain flus not all! Waste of money
Mar 17, 2019 22:22:48 #
eagleye13 wrote:
I wasn't aware that this thread was about peace and conflict.
I gathered it to be about common sense.
I was just stating ,that even for those with getting different points of view,there is sometimes a common ground to stand upon.
Mar 17, 2019 23:33:56 #
solarkin wrote:
I gathered it to be about common sense.
I was just stating ,that even for those with getting different points of view,there is sometimes a common ground to stand upon.
I was just stating ,that even for those with getting different points of view,there is sometimes a common ground to stand upon.
Your "common sense" may cause autism.
Something to research.
Mar 18, 2019 11:08:44 #
Mar 18, 2019 16:08:32 #
solarkin wrote:
People don't get Polio anymore.
Or the plague .
Or the plague .
Who is saying all v*****es are bad? not me.
BUT;
V*****es for every thing; like flues etc.
your choice.
A lot of bad side effects maybe.
Too many given babies IMO is dangerous.
Autism?
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