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Mar 10, 2019 09:13:27   #
Ron99
 
It is hard to nail down what socialism is because it is an umbrella term.

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Mar 10, 2019 09:55:20   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Why Are So Many Millennials Drawn to Socialism?
Posted Mar 05, 2019 by Michael L. Brown

This is not a leading question. It is not meant as a setup or trap. To the contrary, I’m asking the question because I have not yet formed an opinion. Why, then, is it that so many millennials are drawn to socialism?

I posted this on Twitter and got a robust response, with lots of insightful answers: “Can someone explain this to me? The younger generation in America has grown up during a time of virtually unapparelled national prosperity and ease (generally speaking), yet so many are advocating socialism. Why do you think that is? (Honest question.)”

A CNN headline dated June 28, 2018 declared, “Millennials are much more open to socialism.”

A February 14, 2019 article in the Economist focused on, “The resurgent left. Millennial socialism.”

And a March 4, 2019 headline in the Washington Times announced, “Millennials agree: ‘Calling yourself a socialist sounds sexier.’”

The question is why.

Why would so many young people who have been so materially blessed by capitalism be so fascinated by socialism?

Is it because they don’t understand it?

Is it because they are all about “fairness” and “e******y”?

Is it a protest against the rich?

Is it because they’re reacting against materialism and consumerism?

Is it because they feel entitled to a free handout?

On August 7, 2017, Prof. Jay Richards penned an important article for the Stream titled, “On C*******m and Socialism, Many Americans Are Still Clueless.”

Every American should read this article, both young and old, since it lays out clearly what socialism really is and why it is so dangerous.

Richards wrote, “Here’s a brief primer: Marx and his disciples claimed that ‘capitalism’ must give way to ‘socialism,’ where private property would be abolished and an all-powerful state would own everything on behalf of the people. That’s what Marx meant by the word socialism, and that’s the main dictionary definition.”

I wonder how many millennials (or their elders) understand this?

He continued, “This was only supposed to be a stage, though, not the end of all our strivings. At some point, under socialism, people would lose their silly fondness for property, family, religion, and other evils. A ‘new socialist man’ would emerge and then the state would ‘wither away.’ Everyone would enjoy peace, prosperity, and the brotherhood of man. Marx and his acolytes called that final, stateless paradise ‘c*******m.’”

And what, exactly, does this look like?

Richards put it like this: “Here’s the point: Those regimes led by mass murderers with their gulags, death camps, man-made famines and k*****g fields were socialist. That’s not slander. It’s what these countries called themselves. USSR stood for the ‘Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.’”

Practically speaking, “You gotta break millions of eggs with socialism to make the c*******t omelet. Socialism, you might say, was the necessary evil to reach the bliss where no state would be necessary.

“That was sort of the theory anyway. In practice, socialism has just been evil. Unremitting evil, wherever it’s tried.”







I wonder how millennials would respond to this?

What’s your take? Please share your thoughts here, and if you don’t mind, for the sake of perspective, share your age (roughly or exactly) as you respond.

As I said, I’m looking to form an educated opinion, so your insights will be very helpful.

Thanks for your sharing your thoughts!

Michael L. Brown has some really good points. What is your response to his question?
Why Are So Many Millennials Drawn to Socialism? br... (show quote)


Great piece by former CKE CEO. This will give everyone some insight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdfru9NHGvE

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Mar 10, 2019 10:18:22   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Great piece by former CKE CEO. This will give everyone some insight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdfru9NHGvE


Great explanation and as usual well thought out presentation from Prager University. Thank you for posting it.

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Mar 10, 2019 11:20:00   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
It seems to me the question's already been answered:
no propaganda please wrote:
Richards wrote, “Here’s a brief primer: Marx and his disciples claimed that ‘capitalism’ must give way to ‘socialism,’ where private property would be abolished and an all-powerful state would own everything on behalf of the people. That’s what Marx meant by the word socialism, and that’s the main dictionary definition.”

I wonder how many millennials (or their elders) understand this?

Perhaps the question should more properly be 'why do they not understand it?'

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Mar 10, 2019 11:59:53   #
currahee506
 
"Government teachers?" "Government schools?" And you ask this question? Do you think they are even going to mention where the brainwashing toward "socialism" even started? FDR was a "global socialist." In 1933 he saved the Frankfort Marxist professors from the N**is by giving them safe passage to come over here to teach cultural-Marxism in the major universities starting with Tulane. It's going to take at least two generations to untangle ourselves from this brainwashing.

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Mar 10, 2019 12:11:59   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Why Are So Many Millennials Drawn to Socialism?
Posted Mar 05, 2019 by Michael L. Brown

This is not a leading question. It is not meant as a setup or trap. To the contrary, I’m asking the question because I have not yet formed an opinion. Why, then, is it that so many millennials are drawn to socialism?

I posted this on Twitter and got a robust response, with lots of insightful answers: “Can someone explain this to me? The younger generation in America has grown up during a time of virtually unapparelled national prosperity and ease (generally speaking), yet so many are advocating socialism. Why do you think that is? (Honest question.)”

A CNN headline dated June 28, 2018 declared, “Millennials are much more open to socialism.”

A February 14, 2019 article in the Economist focused on, “The resurgent left. Millennial socialism.”

And a March 4, 2019 headline in the Washington Times announced, “Millennials agree: ‘Calling yourself a socialist sounds sexier.’”

The question is why.

Why would so many young people who have been so materially blessed by capitalism be so fascinated by socialism?

Is it because they don’t understand it?

Is it because they are all about “fairness” and “e******y”?

Is it a protest against the rich?

Is it because they’re reacting against materialism and consumerism?

Is it because they feel entitled to a free handout?

On August 7, 2017, Prof. Jay Richards penned an important article for the Stream titled, “On C*******m and Socialism, Many Americans Are Still Clueless.”

Every American should read this article, both young and old, since it lays out clearly what socialism really is and why it is so dangerous.

Richards wrote, “Here’s a brief primer: Marx and his disciples claimed that ‘capitalism’ must give way to ‘socialism,’ where private property would be abolished and an all-powerful state would own everything on behalf of the people. That’s what Marx meant by the word socialism, and that’s the main dictionary definition.”

I wonder how many millennials (or their elders) understand this?

He continued, “This was only supposed to be a stage, though, not the end of all our strivings. At some point, under socialism, people would lose their silly fondness for property, family, religion, and other evils. A ‘new socialist man’ would emerge and then the state would ‘wither away.’ Everyone would enjoy peace, prosperity, and the brotherhood of man. Marx and his acolytes called that final, stateless paradise ‘c*******m.’”

And what, exactly, does this look like?

Richards put it like this: “Here’s the point: Those regimes led by mass murderers with their gulags, death camps, man-made famines and k*****g fields were socialist. That’s not slander. It’s what these countries called themselves. USSR stood for the ‘Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.’”

Practically speaking, “You gotta break millions of eggs with socialism to make the c*******t omelet. Socialism, you might say, was the necessary evil to reach the bliss where no state would be necessary.

“That was sort of the theory anyway. In practice, socialism has just been evil. Unremitting evil, wherever it’s tried.”

I wonder how millennials would respond to this?

What’s your take? Please share your thoughts here, and if you don’t mind, for the sake of perspective, share your age (roughly or exactly) as you respond.

As I said, I’m looking to form an educated opinion, so your insights will be very helpful.

Thanks for your sharing your thoughts!

Michael L. Brown has some really good points. What is your response to his question?
Why Are So Many Millennials Drawn to Socialism? br... (show quote)


Could it be that they rather have a bit of socialism over the f*****m being pushed by Big Money?

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Mar 10, 2019 13:29:41   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
It seems to me the question's already been answered:

Perhaps the question should more properly be 'why do they not understand it?'

That's our third 'why' in this thread. Now you're reaching into the heart of the beast. Just two more 'whys' and you'll be zeroed in, it always takes five 'whys' to get down to the nitty-gritty.

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Mar 10, 2019 17:55:55   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
It seems to me the question's already been answered:

Perhaps the question should more properly be 'why do they not understand it?'


I really believe tha

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Mar 10, 2019 18:33:07   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
It seems to me the question's already been answered:

Perhaps the question should more properly be 'why do they not understand it?'


I think that most of us who call ourselves Democratic socialists are thinking of countries like Sweden or Denmark not Karl Marx or Venezuela. After watching the video by the gentleman from Prager University, I decided I'm not nearly as progressive as I thought I was.

My grandson had so many toys that he did not value any of them but my husband kept buying them. (Not me, of course.) On the other hand, telling people to work harder or work at all when they don't have the physical or mental sk**l to do it, or are already working two jobs to make ends meet is not the answer either.

So I am not in favor of free college. A reasonable tuition plus a reasonable amount of work to attain a degree is what I advocate. Of course how often are we reasonable?

I hear people on this site complain about the l***hes who get welfare checks and never work a day. Guess what? They ain't all black. Again, I would like to see a minimum of community service jobs in order to get welfare and while we're at it, make it local instead of federal. That way, if Johnny so-snd-so is claiming disability but we see him carrying big boxes into his house, we ca call him on it.

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Mar 10, 2019 18:36:52   #
woodguru
 
Why are so many right wingers so clueless about what socialism is?

It's social security, medicare (for all), making the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.

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Mar 10, 2019 20:15:06   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
currahee506 wrote:
"Government teachers?" "Government schools?" And you ask this question? Do you think they are even going to mention where the brainwashing toward "socialism" even started? FDR was a "global socialist." In 1933 he saved the Frankfort Marxist professors from the N**is by giving them safe passage to come over here to teach cultural-Marxism in the major universities starting with Tulane. It's going to take at least two generations to untangle ourselves from this brainwashing.
"Government teachers?" "Government ... (show quote)


You are right on the money with that statement. Too bad more don't know history as well as you do.

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Mar 10, 2019 20:15:48   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
I think that most of us who call ourselves Democratic socialists are thinking of countries like Sweden or Denmark not Karl Marx or Venezuela. After watching the video by the gentleman from Prager University, I decided I'm not nearly as progressive as I thought I was.


Welcome home, sister! Glad to have you back. If I could I'd give you a big, strong hug, I surely would. But I can't, so here:



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Mar 10, 2019 20:32:03   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
no propaganda please wrote:
You are right on the money with that statement. Too bad more don't know history as well as you do.

Too bad they weren't 'taught' history as well as we were. Who owns that one?

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Mar 10, 2019 20:42:11   #
badbob85037
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Why Are So Many Millennials Drawn to Socialism?
Posted Mar 05, 2019 by Michael L. Brown

This is not a leading question. It is not meant as a setup or trap. To the contrary, I’m asking the question because I have not yet formed an opinion. Why, then, is it that so many millennials are drawn to socialism?

I posted this on Twitter and got a robust response, with lots of insightful answers: “Can someone explain this to me? The younger generation in America has grown up during a time of virtually unapparelled national prosperity and ease (generally speaking), yet so many are advocating socialism. Why do you think that is? (Honest question.)”

A CNN headline dated June 28, 2018 declared, “Millennials are much more open to socialism.”

A February 14, 2019 article in the Economist focused on, “The resurgent left. Millennial socialism.”

And a March 4, 2019 headline in the Washington Times announced, “Millennials agree: ‘Calling yourself a socialist sounds sexier.’”

The question is why.

Why would so many young people who have been so materially blessed by capitalism be so fascinated by socialism?

Is it because they don’t understand it?

Is it because they are all about “fairness” and “e******y”?

Is it a protest against the rich?

Is it because they’re reacting against materialism and consumerism?

Is it because they feel entitled to a free handout?

On August 7, 2017, Prof. Jay Richards penned an important article for the Stream titled, “On C*******m and Socialism, Many Americans Are Still Clueless.”

Every American should read this article, both young and old, since it lays out clearly what socialism really is and why it is so dangerous.

Richards wrote, “Here’s a brief primer: Marx and his disciples claimed that ‘capitalism’ must give way to ‘socialism,’ where private property would be abolished and an all-powerful state would own everything on behalf of the people. That’s what Marx meant by the word socialism, and that’s the main dictionary definition.”

I wonder how many millennials (or their elders) understand this?

He continued, “This was only supposed to be a stage, though, not the end of all our strivings. At some point, under socialism, people would lose their silly fondness for property, family, religion, and other evils. A ‘new socialist man’ would emerge and then the state would ‘wither away.’ Everyone would enjoy peace, prosperity, and the brotherhood of man. Marx and his acolytes called that final, stateless paradise ‘c*******m.’”

And what, exactly, does this look like?

Richards put it like this: “Here’s the point: Those regimes led by mass murderers with their gulags, death camps, man-made famines and k*****g fields were socialist. That’s not slander. It’s what these countries called themselves. USSR stood for the ‘Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.’”

Practically speaking, “You gotta break millions of eggs with socialism to make the c*******t omelet. Socialism, you might say, was the necessary evil to reach the bliss where no state would be necessary.

“That was sort of the theory anyway. In practice, socialism has just been evil. Unremitting evil, wherever it’s tried.”

I wonder how millennials would respond to this?

What’s your take? Please share your thoughts here, and if you don’t mind, for the sake of perspective, share your age (roughly or exactly) as you respond.

As I said, I’m looking to form an educated opinion, so your insights will be very helpful.

Thanks for your sharing your thoughts!

Michael L. Brown has some really good points. What is your response to his question?
Why Are So Many Millennials Drawn to Socialism? br... (show quote)


It's because it's the cool thing to do. These i***ts don't know the first thing about Socialism or Capitalism so where one goes they all go. Probable Nancy Pelosi was rambling on with one of her "We have to pass the bill so we know what's in it and one of these dead heads heard it and being gullible took it all in as fact. Give them a week of Socialism and they will realize they are to stupid to ever be ignorant.

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Mar 10, 2019 20:48:01   #
Boknow
 
Kevyn wrote:
It is pretty easy to figure out. They look at the baby boomers who received high quality public school educations, went to college and graduated with little or no debt because the government valued and supported higher education. They look at the boomers who had decent jobs with good benefits including defined benefit old age pension plans and health and dental care. They looked at people enjoying union protection so they didn’t loose their jobs because a supervisor didn’t like them or they got hurt. They look at stagnant or falling wages and wish that one paycheck for 40 hours of work would support their families like it did their parents and grandparents. They see a country where their concerns are ignored and policy is made by corporate lobbiests against their best interests. FDR who was derided by many right wing nutters as being a t*****r to his class and a socialist actualy saved capitalism from itself. We were at a place in time wher the uber rich had amassed so much wealth and influence people suffering from the depression were on the verge of torches and pitchforks at the castle door. The new deal gave them not only deliverance from abject poverty in old age but built much of the infastructure that made the US a world power. Unionization gave us a 40 hour work week safer workplaces and the biggest middle class in the world. All of this has eroded since the early eighties and the millennials see it clearly. They realize it would be foolish to hook their wagon to a lying geriatric con man Pumpkinfuhrer hoping his plan of deregulating industry might afford them the one in a million shot at sitting on a gold crapper like he does. They want what most Americans do. High quality affordable education, health care for all as enjoyed in the rest of the first world, an environment that isnt poisoned and fouled. A progressive tax rate where the wealthy and corporations pay their fare share. They want to live in a nation where children don’t grow up in poverty. And they look at their L**T friends and friends of different colors and nationalities and cant understand why the boomers discriminate against them. We need something like the ideas in the New Green Deal, not to eliminate capitalism but to insure it. Regulation and labor rights are not socialism.
It is pretty easy to figure out. They look at the... (show quote)


Want in one hand and s**t in the other. See which one gets there faster. It’s not what they want it’s what they get. What they get is opportunity. Sacrifice is what they don’t understand. No sacrifice goes unrewarded. From reading your opinion on this forum, you have had everything given to you.

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