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Mar 9, 2019 16:05:27   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
The only people who dis the SPLC, are people who fear they are on the list of nut case terrorist..

a fine group of dedicated people make up this fine watch dog association and you should make a personal contribution to them to make up for you disparaging remarks..

good luck to you and your henchmen...


Negative, permi. As a former legal aid attorney, I'm well acquainted with poverty law. And I know countless colleagues who have also worked in poverty law, who likewise know that Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC, is a poverty law organization in name only. They just moved into their new 6 story building in Montgomery. And they keep making money hand over fist, by shaking down so called h**e organizations.

SPLC has labeled the following as h**e groups because they embrace marriage between a man and a woman: Focus on the Family, Liberty University, Pat Roberson, Jerry Falwell, the Federalist Society, and even Ben Carson. Strangely A****a, a real h**e group, didn't make the cut.

Morris Dees' annual compensation is many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Every poverty lawyer I've ever known earned well below the average lawyer's income; they were in it because they believe in what they were doing.
Oh yeah, and I've never been aware of poverty law groups who accepted fee-generating cases. SPCL seeks out those kinds of cases to pad their already overflowing bank accounts.
So go ahead permi, and give your money to SPLC.
Sucker!


We all dis SPLC and we're not nut case terrorists.

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Mar 9, 2019 16:37:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
All the Evidence You Need for Why SPLC is Not Credible

Ten years ago, the Southern Poverty Law Center declared its mission to destroy the groups it opposes, groups that now include mainstream conservative and Judeo-Christian organizations. While the SPLC's methods to accomplish its mission are well known (false and defamatory attacks that have inspired violence) there remains much about the SPLC that has gone mostly unreported -- until now. In recent weeks, the t***h about the discredited SPLC began spreading across the country in media outlets like the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard, Fox News, Daily Signal, PJ Media, Washington Free Beacon, and even in the New York Times and PBS. Regional news outlets like the Colorado Springs Gazette and the Cincinnati Inquirer are also weighing in. Reporters and financial analysts alike are expressing surprise upon learning about the SPLC's practice of stashing tens of millions of dollars in offshore accounts. The SPLC's efforts to censor conservative speech on college campuses is receiving renewed attention after retired Vanderbilt professor Carol Swain wrote a Wall Street Journal column explaining how the SPLC's smears impacted her career. After 47 conservative movement leaders released an open letter calling on the media to avoid using the SPLC's discredited data, media outlets are recognizing the need to give the SPLC fresh scrutiny. A Colorado Springs Gazette editorial calls out the SPLC's carelessness -- noting the SPLC had labeled a Colorado host 'anti-Semitic'...but unbeknownst to the SPLC, the man was Jewish and lost relatives in the Holocaust." A Cincinnati Enquirer column published today refers to the SPLC as a "s**m."

PBS's Bob Garfield said on Sunday that he had always assumed the SPLC was "free of any bias" but now wonders "if my trust has been misplaced." The host went further asking whether the SPLC is now viewed as "being opportunists exploiting our political miseries..." Even the New York Times published a column questioning the trustworthiness of the SPLC. I could go on listing article after article exposing the t***h about the SPLC -- but there is now a website that does that for you: SPLCexposed.com. This is a website that FRC and other conservative organizations have supported which shows what is being said about the SPLC not just on the Right, but on the Left, in the media and by government entities including the FBI, the DOJ and the U.S. Army. Please share SPLCexposed.com on your favorite social media platforms and be sure to refer others to it -- especially when you see the SPLC cited as any kind of credible source.


Washington Post: The Southern Poverty Law Center has lost all credibility

FBI Dumps Southern Poverty Law Center as H**e Crimes Resource
url=https://www.frc.org/updatearticle/20170915/al... (show quote)



It seems every group has its distincters.. clearly the SPLC is not exception.

Before I ever send a donation, i would do a very deep inquiry..

However, for now I see them as a group standing on past deed which were not only fine but historic..


i see nothing in the reports you posted which would in themselves make me stop any support, but they do serve as a cation..

Just as I would never support the right wing or the trump forces, I would not wish to support any group which s**ms supporters while pocketing a mountain of money..

Thanks for the links..

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/28/morris-dees-splc-trump-southern-poverty-law-center-215312

Montgomery, Alabama—Ask a taxi to take you from the airport here to the downtown headquarters of the Southern Poverty Law Center, and your driver will start telling tales of the group’s founder, local legend Morris Dees. “He’s a hell of a man around here,” mine informs me on a Friday morning in late April. “He’s the one who got the Klan straightened out. He fought the cause.” The driver adds, as an aside, “He made plenty of money doing it.”

These are the twin legacies of Montgomery’s most famous nonprofit: Since 1971, the SPLC has fought racial discrimination in the South and established itself as the nation’s most prominent h**e-group watchdog, most notably winning legal fights that put some of the last nails in the coffin of the Ku Klux Klan. It has also built itself into a civil rights behemoth with a glossy headquarters and a nine-figure endowment, inviting charges that it oversells the threats posed by Klansmen and neo-N**is to keep donations flowing in from wealthy liberals.


Now the e******n of Donald Trump has vaulted the SPLC back into the center of the national conversation, giving the group the kind of potent foil it hasn’t had since the Klan. Trump swept into the Oval Office by disparaging Mexican immigrants, fanning Islamophobia and activating a resurgent strain of r****m rebranded as “alt-right.” Suddenly the SPLC, whose biggest fights seemed to be behind it, is all over the news—warning of an increase in h**e crimes, publishing sleek reports about anti-Muslim extremists and taking the leaders of the alt-right to court. The group is in the process of adding 50 staffers, expanding legal services for immigrants facing deportation across the South and bringing a legal hammer down on alt-right trolls. Since the e******n, the SPLC says it has more than doubled its following on Twitter and jumped from 650,000 Facebook followers to more than a million.

The rise of Trump is a moment made for Dees, the SPLC’s 80-year-old founder, who is more than a little Trumpian himself. Smooth, publicity-savvy and detail-averse, Dees is a marketing genius whose greatest success may be selling his own persona as a crusader

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Mar 9, 2019 16:49:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Louie27 wrote:
You or no one else has any proof that any of these k*****gs were by right wing people. They were done by people with extremist views. That doesn't make them right wing. From what I read there was no direct link to rightwing extremists, what ever that means , which I think is too broad of a terminology for such behavior. What about all of the people shot in Chicago? They weren't shot by rightwing thugs.

As for the white supremist group, they are a cult all of their own with no affiliation to conservatives or Republicans. You seem to have put all shootings in the ballpark of rightwing is a false supposition by you and others. You should quit reading what the SLPC has to say they even claim some conservative ministers are extreme except those that are left or really extreme left.
You or no one else has any proof that any of these... (show quote)




I have no intent to overlook any Murders of any group or individual..

do you truly think that a person yelling about gun rights or skin color or shooting black people while they pray in church is not a right wing nut??

That is OK.. I do not care what you hold dear.. I do not agree with this idea that someone would need to write an allegiance in stone to show any right wing leaning.

But then you or yours turn around and accuse every shooting in history to have been done by some left wing nut..

A little out of balance, don`t you think..

Personally, I feel very few of these shooting have true political bent.. but my opinion means nothing..

I never did read any conclusion on the motive/leaning of the Las Vagus shooter..

But I am also very sure Roof k**led those church members due to his right wing lean..



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Mar 9, 2019 16:55:59   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
All but one of the terrorist attacks that have taken place in this nation since 9-11 have been committed by right wing extremists who were white men. Not profiling the real terrorists but rather appeasing cowards who are afraid of the brown boogyman does nothing to increase our safety but gos a long way toward curtailing our freedoms.


Real evidence has been presented of historical muhamadist military aggression.

What do you do?? You deflect like a guilty r*****d.

You must be a sand gaboo too! Do you belong to a sleeper cell?

You defend everything that hurts America from the muhhamaddists

Is it that you've consumed too much soy and have now assumed a effiminate core?

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Mar 9, 2019 16:57:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Negative, permi. As a former legal aid attorney, I'm well acquainted with poverty law. And I know countless colleagues who have also worked in poverty law, who likewise know that Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC, is a poverty law organization in name only. They just moved into their new 6 story building in Montgomery. And they keep making money hand over fist, by shaking down so called h**e organizations.

SPLC has labeled the following as h**e groups because they embrace marriage between a man and a woman: Focus on the Family, Liberty University, Pat Roberson, Jerry Falwell, the Federalist Society, and even Ben Carson. Strangely A****a, a real h**e group, didn't make the cut.

Morris Dees' annual compensation is many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Every poverty lawyer I've ever known earned well below the average lawyer's income; they were in it because they believe in what they were doing.
Oh yeah, and I've never been aware of poverty law groups who accepted fee-generating cases. SPCL seeks out those kinds of cases to pad their already overflowing bank accounts.
So go ahead permi, and give your money to SPLC.
Sucker!


We all dis SPLC and we're not nut case terrorists.
Negative, permi. As a former legal aid attorney, ... (show quote)




I think you have always seemed bitter, now you must be bitter because the SPCL was so successful against the KKK..

And then rubbed it in by accusing most of trump staff and policies as the evil scum they proved to be..

My son works for a very well known organization for the fair and equal rights of all.. this year (now) he is Minnesota attorney of the year.... that is all of his 5 person group got the award and they all get to brag about it..

And his father gets to brag more than anyone..



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Mar 9, 2019 17:34:52   #
Carol Kelly
 
EmilyD wrote:
All true - great post! And isn't it interesting that while we had a Muslim president, attacks on America by Muslim males died down?

The House of Representatives is in chaos trying to defend a Muslim woman who clearly made an anti-Semitic statement...and she has done so more than once! Their defense: "It's her culture" and "She's on a learning curve" (meaning, I guess, that she needs to learn to not say she h**es Jewish people out loud.)


The best One was “she’s hurting from the suffering in a Kenyan Displaced Person Camp”. Please stop apologizing and making excuses.

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Mar 9, 2019 17:35:48   #
Carol Kelly
 
byronglimish wrote:
Real evidence has been presented of historical muhamadist military aggression.

What do you do?? You deflect like a guilty r*****d.

You must be a sand gaboo too! Do you belong to a sleeper cell?

You defend everything that hurts America from the muhhamaddists

Is it that you've consumed too much soy and have now assumed a effiminate core?


Not effeminate. Please.

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Mar 9, 2019 17:38:42   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Not effeminate. Please.


My apologies.

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Mar 9, 2019 17:40:31   #
Carol Kelly
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Negative, permi. As a former legal aid attorney, I'm well acquainted with poverty law. And I know countless colleagues who have also worked in poverty law, who likewise know that Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC, is a poverty law organization in name only. They just moved into their new 6 story building in Montgomery. And they keep making money hand over fist, by shaking down so called h**e organizations.

SPLC has labeled the following as h**e groups because they embrace marriage between a man and a woman: Focus on the Family, Liberty University, Pat Roberson, Jerry Falwell, the Federalist Society, and even Ben Carson. Strangely A****a, a real h**e group, didn't make the cut.

Morris Dees' annual compensation is many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Every poverty lawyer I've ever known earned well below the average lawyer's income; they were in it because they believe in what they were doing.
Oh yeah, and I've never been aware of poverty law groups who accepted fee-generating cases. SPCL seeks out those kinds of cases to pad their already overflowing bank accounts.
So go ahead permi, and give your money to SPLC.
Sucker!


We all dis SPLC and we're not nut case terrorists.
Negative, permi. As a former legal aid attorney, ... (show quote)


I really can’t handle a lot more of this radical mudslinging from the l*****ts on here.
You are absolutely correct all the way.

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Mar 9, 2019 17:41:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
byronglimish wrote:
My apologies.


Thank you. He’s a nutcase.

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Mar 9, 2019 18:30:55   #
Mikeyavelli
 
MR Mister wrote:
A short history lesson:

In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.

In 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the Battle of Lepanto.

In 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christia n Armies.

This crap has been going on for 1,400 years and half of these damn politicians don't even know it !!!
If these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non - existent; Judaism certainly would be... And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who k**led Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "subhumans".

In 1783 AD when the British Colonies that would become the United States of America gained independence from Great Britain, 5 Muslim countries of North Africa declared war on our newly independent nation, hijacking, and kidnapping merchant sailors and selling them for ransom, or into s***ery. When the United States of America was established, we were forced to pay extortion fees amounting to 20 to 25% of our federal budget to those Muslim countries to keep them from their hijacking and kidnapping. It took two administrations, Washington and Adams, to build a sufficient Navy so that President Jefferson, in 1805, could send the Navy and Marines to conquer Tripoli and end the piracy. Islam has been at war with the USA since our founding.

Reflecting

A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.

Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!
Do you remember?

1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and k**led by a Muslim male.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.

3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.

4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people k**led, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.

5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.

6. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.

7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.

8. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.

9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.

10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.

11. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.

12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.

13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were k**led by Muslim males.

14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.

15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it---a Muslim male.

16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child k**led, 264 injured by Muslim males.

17. In 2014, thousands of Christian men, women, and children are slaughtered, defiled, and beheaded by Muslim males.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So we v**e them into Congress now, right? Yeah, and I can see the end now, it's coming.

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on k*****g us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.

Absolutely No Profiling! Instead, they must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year olds, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, BUT leave Muslim Males alone lest airport security be guilty of profiling.

Have the American people completely lost their Minds or just their Power of Reason???

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys, along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.

As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.
A short history lesson: br br In 732 AD the Musli... (show quote)

Now Congress is hijacked by two Muslimas and a Puerto Rican Socialist.
Persian soldiers fought for Hitler. The country was so proud of that that they changed their name to Iran, their way of pronouncing Aryan.
A moderate Muslim won't slit your throat, but he will hold you down while his brother does.

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Mar 9, 2019 18:32:14   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Thank you. He’s a nutcase.


He should under observation for at least ninety days and should definitely not be allowed to possess a firearm.

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Mar 9, 2019 18:49:05   #
Seth
 
MR Mister wrote:
A short history lesson:

In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.

In 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the Battle of Lepanto.

In 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christia n Armies.

This crap has been going on for 1,400 years and half of these damn politicians don't even know it !!!
If these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non - existent; Judaism certainly would be... And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who k**led Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "subhumans".

In 1783 AD when the British Colonies that would become the United States of America gained independence from Great Britain, 5 Muslim countries of North Africa declared war on our newly independent nation, hijacking, and kidnapping merchant sailors and selling them for ransom, or into s***ery. When the United States of America was established, we were forced to pay extortion fees amounting to 20 to 25% of our federal budget to those Muslim countries to keep them from their hijacking and kidnapping. It took two administrations, Washington and Adams, to build a sufficient Navy so that President Jefferson, in 1805, could send the Navy and Marines to conquer Tripoli and end the piracy. Islam has been at war with the USA since our founding.

Reflecting

A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.

Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!
Do you remember?

1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and k**led by a Muslim male.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.

3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.

4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people k**led, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.

5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.

6. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.

7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.

8. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.

9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.

10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.

11. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.

12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.

13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were k**led by Muslim males.

14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.

15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it---a Muslim male.

16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child k**led, 264 injured by Muslim males.

17. In 2014, thousands of Christian men, women, and children are slaughtered, defiled, and beheaded by Muslim males.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So we v**e them into Congress now, right? Yeah, and I can see the end now, it's coming.

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on k*****g us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.

Absolutely No Profiling! Instead, they must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year olds, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, BUT leave Muslim Males alone lest airport security be guilty of profiling.

Have the American people completely lost their Minds or just their Power of Reason???

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys, along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.

As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.
A short history lesson: br br In 732 AD the Musli... (show quote)


Just more Democrat identity politics that endanger Americans, all in the name of said Democrats getting a few more v**es.

Today's Democrats were precisely what a very brilliant and prescient man named Benjamin Franklin meant when he warned, "A republic, if you can keep it."

Given all those terrorist ops listed and goings-on in EU countries that have taken in legions of Muslim "refugees," one would have to conclude that these Dems aren't stupid, they just don't give a damn what happens to this country and the Americans within it as long as they achieve their very anti-America political agendas.

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Mar 9, 2019 19:04:33   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
permafrost wrote:
[A] fine group of dedicated people make up this fine watch dog association and you should make a personal contribution to them to make up for you disparaging remarks..

Now, let me see...
First, there's this:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/8967/7-things-you-need-know-about-southern-poverty-law-aaron-bandler

"The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) recently classified the organization White L***s M****r as a h**e group, but refused to apply the same classification to Black L***s M****r." In fact, they even refused to apply the same standards. "[Black L***s M****r] members have explicitly called for dead cops, the lynching of white people, and endorse racial segregation? For some reason, the SPLC's president, Richard Cohen, does not believe the label equally applies to the L*****t group."

Then we find this:

https://freebeacon.com/issues/southern-poverty-law-center-t***sfers-millions-in-cash-to-offshore-entities/

"I've never known a US-based nonprofit dealing in human rights or social services to have any foreign bank accounts," said Amy Sterling Casil, CEO of Pacific Human Capital, a California-based nonprofit consulting firm. "My impression based on prior interactions is that they have a small, modestly paid staff, and were regarded by most in the industry as frugal and reliable. I am stunned to learn of t***sfers of millions to offshore bank accounts. It is a huge red f**g and would have been completely unacceptable to any wealthy, responsible, experienced board member who was committed to a charitable mission who I ever worked with." Ouch. But wait, there's more!

"It is unethical for any US-based charity to invest large sums of money overseas," said Casil. "I know of no legitimate reason for any US-based nonprofit to put money in overseas, unregulated bank accounts."

permafrost wrote:
[A] fine group of dedicated people make up this fine watch dog association

Oh Dear.

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Mar 9, 2019 19:05:43   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Kevyn wrote:
All but one of the terrorist attacks that have taken place in this nation since 9-11 have been committed by right wing extremists who were white men. Not profiling the real terrorists but rather appeasing cowards who are afraid of the brown boogyman does nothing to increase our safety but gos a long way toward curtailing our freedoms.


Ft Hood shooter Muslim.
Chatanooga shooter Muslim
Orlando nightclub shooter Muslim
San Bernadino shooter Muslim
Oregon school shooter Muslim
Oregon shopping mall shooter Muslim
Beltway sniper Muslim.
That's just off the top of my head.

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