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Georgia wins a round for babies!
Mar 6, 2019 21:16:14   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
ATLANTA — Amid tears, gasps and handshakes, a Georgia House committee approved legislation Wednesday to outlaw a******n after a fetus' heartbeat can be detected, which is around the same time many women medically confirm they are pregnant. Women in Georgia can currently seek an a******n up to 20 weeks of a pregnancy. A heartbeat is generally detectable by medical professionals at around 6 weeks. Wednesday's hearing was tense and emotional with several outbursts slowing proceedings and activists and citizens moved to tears on both sides of the issue. The House Health and Human Services Committee approved the anti-a******n measure on a party-line v**e of 17 to 14. Thirteen Republican men and four Republican women v**ed for it. Seven Democratic men and seven Democratic women v**ed against. The committee approval means the bill could soon move to a v**e before the full House, but timing is tight. Thursday marks a Georgia legislative deadline by which bill must generally pass one house or the other. Any passage in the full House would send it to the Senate. Gov. Brian Kemp pledged during his recent campaign for governor to sign the "toughest a******n laws in the country". Kemp's campaign website says he supports "a 'Heartbeat Bill' that outlaws a******ns after six weeks." The bill makes would make exceptions in the case of rape and incest, but only if the woman files a police report. It also would allow exceptions if the pregnancy places a mother's life at risk. The chairman of the committee, Rep. Sharon Cooper, introduced an amendment that passed which also makes an exception in the case of a "medically futile" pregnancy — cases in which a fetus is deemed not compatible with life. "We know life begins at conception. I think that's worthy of full legal protection," said the bill's author, Rep. Ed Setzler. "Certainly we can come together and recognize if there's a human heartbeat, that child's worthy of protection." Critics of the bill said it would jeopardize women's health, lead to unsafe self-induced a******ns and worsen the obstetrician shortage in Georgia. Democrats tried several times, unsuccessfully, to table the measure Wednesday. Republicans, growing exasperated by delays, tried several times to force a v**e. A group of mostly female lawmakers and health care advocates and professionals lined up to speak against the bill. Democratic Reps. Park Cannon of Atlanta was among two lawmakers who testified about their own a******n experiences. Cannon said she remains confident in her decision to get an a******n after she was sexually assaulted in 2010. With tensions running high,Democratic Rep. Kim Schofield of Atlanta asked Setzler at one point: "How many times have you actually carried a baby?" Setzler talked about his wife's experience with pregnancy, including miscarriages they suffered. Dr. Melissa Kottke, who is on the advisory board of Georgia's OB-GYN Society, voiced worries the bill would deter obstetricians from practicing in a state that has a shortage of OB-GYNs. "It's extremely dangerous for lawmakers to presume that they're better equipped than women and their health care providers to judge what is appropriate medical care," Kottke said. Dr. Kathy Altman, a retired OB-GYN who briefly worked as a medical director for Planned Parenthood in Florida in the 1980s, testified in favor of the bill. Altman, who once supported a******n but later had what she calls a change of heart, spoke about an a******n she said she now regrets having. "I wish there had been a heartbeat bill back then," Altman said. Said Altman, "We have convinced young women that an unplanned pregnancy is the worst thing that can happen to them and their right to reproductive freedom is more important than their baby's right to live." One woman testified in favor of the bill, saying that she gave birth to a child conceived from rape, even though her doctor suggested she have an a******n. "My child is not the child of a rapist. She is the child of a rape survivor," said Heather Hobbs with Save the 1, a pro-life advocacy organization for women who give birth after being raped.

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Mar 6, 2019 21:34:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
ATLANTA — Amid tears, gasps and handshakes, a Georgia House committee approved legislation Wednesday to outlaw a******n after a fetus' heartbeat can be detected, which is around the same time many women medically confirm they are pregnant. Women in Georgia can currently seek an a******n up to 20 weeks of a pregnancy. A heartbeat is generally detectable by medical professionals at around 6 weeks. Wednesday's hearing was tense and emotional with several outbursts slowing proceedings and activists and citizens moved to tears on both sides of the issue. The House Health and Human Services Committee approved the anti-a******n measure on a party-line v**e of 17 to 14. Thirteen Republican men and four Republican women v**ed for it. Seven Democratic men and seven Democratic women v**ed against. The committee approval means the bill could soon move to a v**e before the full House, but timing is tight. Thursday marks a Georgia legislative deadline by which bill must generally pass one house or the other. Any passage in the full House would send it to the Senate. Gov. Brian Kemp pledged during his recent campaign for governor to sign the "toughest a******n laws in the country". Kemp's campaign website says he supports "a 'Heartbeat Bill' that outlaws a******ns after six weeks." The bill makes would make exceptions in the case of rape and incest, but only if the woman files a police report. It also would allow exceptions if the pregnancy places a mother's life at risk. The chairman of the committee, Rep. Sharon Cooper, introduced an amendment that passed which also makes an exception in the case of a "medically futile" pregnancy — cases in which a fetus is deemed not compatible with life. "We know life begins at conception. I think that's worthy of full legal protection," said the bill's author, Rep. Ed Setzler. "Certainly we can come together and recognize if there's a human heartbeat, that child's worthy of protection." Critics of the bill said it would jeopardize women's health, lead to unsafe self-induced a******ns and worsen the obstetrician shortage in Georgia. Democrats tried several times, unsuccessfully, to table the measure Wednesday. Republicans, growing exasperated by delays, tried several times to force a v**e. A group of mostly female lawmakers and health care advocates and professionals lined up to speak against the bill. Democratic Reps. Park Cannon of Atlanta was among two lawmakers who testified about their own a******n experiences. Cannon said she remains confident in her decision to get an a******n after she was sexually assaulted in 2010. With tensions running high,Democratic Rep. Kim Schofield of Atlanta asked Setzler at one point: "How many times have you actually carried a baby?" Setzler talked about his wife's experience with pregnancy, including miscarriages they suffered. Dr. Melissa Kottke, who is on the advisory board of Georgia's OB-GYN Society, voiced worries the bill would deter obstetricians from practicing in a state that has a shortage of OB-GYNs. "It's extremely dangerous for lawmakers to presume that they're better equipped than women and their health care providers to judge what is appropriate medical care," Kottke said. Dr. Kathy Altman, a retired OB-GYN who briefly worked as a medical director for Planned Parenthood in Florida in the 1980s, testified in favor of the bill. Altman, who once supported a******n but later had what she calls a change of heart, spoke about an a******n she said she now regrets having. "I wish there had been a heartbeat bill back then," Altman said. Said Altman, "We have convinced young women that an unplanned pregnancy is the worst thing that can happen to them and their right to reproductive freedom is more important than their baby's right to live." One woman testified in favor of the bill, saying that she gave birth to a child conceived from rape, even though her doctor suggested she have an a******n. "My child is not the child of a rapist. She is the child of a rape survivor," said Heather Hobbs with Save the 1, a pro-life advocacy organization for women who give birth after being raped.

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It is my prayer that other states follow this example!!!

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Mar 6, 2019 22:11:05   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
ATLANTA — Amid tears, gasps and handshakes, a Georgia House committee approved legislation Wednesday to outlaw a******n after a fetus' heartbeat can be detected, which is around the same time many women medically confirm they are pregnant. Women in Georgia can currently seek an a******n up to 20 weeks of a pregnancy. A heartbeat is generally detectable by medical professionals at around 6 weeks. Wednesday's hearing was tense and emotional with several outbursts slowing proceedings and activists and citizens moved to tears on both sides of the issue. The House Health and Human Services Committee approved the anti-a******n measure on a party-line v**e of 17 to 14. Thirteen Republican men and four Republican women v**ed for it. Seven Democratic men and seven Democratic women v**ed against. The committee approval means the bill could soon move to a v**e before the full House, but timing is tight. Thursday marks a Georgia legislative deadline by which bill must generally pass one house or the other. Any passage in the full House would send it to the Senate. Gov. Brian Kemp pledged during his recent campaign for governor to sign the "toughest a******n laws in the country". Kemp's campaign website says he supports "a 'Heartbeat Bill' that outlaws a******ns after six weeks." The bill makes would make exceptions in the case of rape and incest, but only if the woman files a police report. It also would allow exceptions if the pregnancy places a mother's life at risk. The chairman of the committee, Rep. Sharon Cooper, introduced an amendment that passed which also makes an exception in the case of a "medically futile" pregnancy — cases in which a fetus is deemed not compatible with life. "We know life begins at conception. I think that's worthy of full legal protection," said the bill's author, Rep. Ed Setzler. "Certainly we can come together and recognize if there's a human heartbeat, that child's worthy of protection." Critics of the bill said it would jeopardize women's health, lead to unsafe self-induced a******ns and worsen the obstetrician shortage in Georgia. Democrats tried several times, unsuccessfully, to table the measure Wednesday. Republicans, growing exasperated by delays, tried several times to force a v**e. A group of mostly female lawmakers and health care advocates and professionals lined up to speak against the bill. Democratic Reps. Park Cannon of Atlanta was among two lawmakers who testified about their own a******n experiences. Cannon said she remains confident in her decision to get an a******n after she was sexually assaulted in 2010. With tensions running high,Democratic Rep. Kim Schofield of Atlanta asked Setzler at one point: "How many times have you actually carried a baby?" Setzler talked about his wife's experience with pregnancy, including miscarriages they suffered. Dr. Melissa Kottke, who is on the advisory board of Georgia's OB-GYN Society, voiced worries the bill would deter obstetricians from practicing in a state that has a shortage of OB-GYNs. "It's extremely dangerous for lawmakers to presume that they're better equipped than women and their health care providers to judge what is appropriate medical care," Kottke said. Dr. Kathy Altman, a retired OB-GYN who briefly worked as a medical director for Planned Parenthood in Florida in the 1980s, testified in favor of the bill. Altman, who once supported a******n but later had what she calls a change of heart, spoke about an a******n she said she now regrets having. "I wish there had been a heartbeat bill back then," Altman said. Said Altman, "We have convinced young women that an unplanned pregnancy is the worst thing that can happen to them and their right to reproductive freedom is more important than their baby's right to live." One woman testified in favor of the bill, saying that she gave birth to a child conceived from rape, even though her doctor suggested she have an a******n. "My child is not the child of a rapist. She is the child of a rape survivor," said Heather Hobbs with Save the 1, a pro-life advocacy organization for women who give birth after being raped.

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It is a small victory but a victory nevertheless.

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Mar 6, 2019 22:30:03   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It is my prayer that other states follow this example!!!

Mine also, Pennylynn. I think it’s the most fair compromise.

There’s this from Wikipedia if you’re interested...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_heartbeat_bill

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Mar 6, 2019 22:30:34   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
padremike wrote:
It is a small victory but a victory nevertheless.


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Mar 6, 2019 22:50:47   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Mine also, Pennylynn. I think it’s the most fair compromise.

There’s this from Wikipedia if you’re interested...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_heartbeat_bill


Thank you very much. It is a very interesting read!!

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Mar 6, 2019 23:13:37   #
Rose42
 
This is good news.

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Mar 7, 2019 09:42:08   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Does anyone know the status of RBG?

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Mar 7, 2019 10:23:11   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It is my prayer that other states follow this example!!!


Amen and Amen

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Mar 7, 2019 10:23:30   #
bahmer
 
padremike wrote:
It is a small victory but a victory nevertheless.


Amen and Amen

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Mar 7, 2019 13:23:50   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Amen!!

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