Trump defends Kim in Otto Warmbier case. SICK!
Mar 2, 2019 06:02:12 #
I know you conservatives will have some excuse but it sounds like the same spiel he used in the Saudi case where the man at the top was sooooooo sorry and clueless how this could have happened. Why is it Trump so admires authoritarian monsters? He honest to god seems to see them as good guys...and that's just sick...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47404629
US President Donald Trump has defended North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in the case of an American college student who died after being jailed by North Korea.
Speaking in Hanoi after his summit with Mr Kim broke down, Mr Trump said he did not believe the North Korean leader was aware of Otto Warmbier's ordeal.
Mr Trump said: "He tells me he didn't know about it, and I will take him at his word."
Warmbier was jailed in North Korea in December 2015 during an organised tour.
Pyongyang authorities returned the 22-year-old to the US in a coma in June 2017, and he died days later in his hometown of Cincinnati, Ohio.
Trump-Kim talks break down over sanctions
His case raised tensions at a time when the Trump administration was exchanging vitriolic comments with North Korea.
Mr Trump told reporters he had mentioned the Warmbier case to Mr Kim and the North Korean leader said he was not aware of it at the time, and was regretful.
Media captionSpeaking after his arrest, US student Otto Warmbier said he was "a poor scapegoat"
The US president said: "I did speak about it, and I don't believe that he would have allowed that to happen.
"It just wasn't to his advantage to allow that to happen. Prisons are rough, they're rough places, and bad things happened."
He said Mr Kim "felt very badly about it", adding: "He knew the case very well, but he knew it later. In those prisons, those camps, you have a lot of people."
Last June, at Mr Trump's first summit with North Korea's leader, he credited Warmbier's death with the change in US-North Korea relations.
Mr Trump described the leaders' relationship as "very strong"
"I think without Otto, this would not have happened," Mr Trump told reporters.
"Something happened from that day. It was a terrible thing. It was brutal. A lot of people started to focus on what was going on, including North Korea. I really think that Otto is someone who did not die in vain."
Warmbier's parents were guests of honour at President Trump's State of the Union address in 2018.
The family have said their son was "murdered" by the North Korean authorities.
Warmbier's parents at Mr Trump's State of the Union address
Warmbier, a University of Virginia student, was detained in Pyongyang during an organised tour, accused of stealing a hotel poster.
He was later charged with spying for the US and held for 17 months.
This is not the first time Mr Trump has expressed a willingness to believe a foreign leader.
His response to Mr Kim echoes his reaction to Russian President Vladimir Putin regarding Russian interference in the 2016 US e******n.
"Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,'" Mr Trump said after meeting Mr Putin in Asia last year. "I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it."
Amid backlash from lawmakers and US media over appearing to believe a foreign power over his own intelligence officials, Mr Trump later clarified his statements, saying he accepted the intelligence community's conclusion, but adding: "Could be other people also. A lot of people out there."
More recently, with the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Mr Trump continued to defend Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman despite CIA officials believing the prince ordered the k*****g.
"[It] could very well be that the crown prince had knowledge of this tragic event - maybe he did and maybe he didn't!"
"I h**e the cover-up," Mr Trump told reporters. "And I will tell you this, the crown prince h**es it more than I do. And they vehemently deny it."
What's the reaction?
The Democratic leader of the House of Representatives, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, pointed out that Mr Trump had believed Mr Putin in the past.
The California lawmaker said: "It's strange. I don't know. There is something wrong with Putin, Kim Jong-un - in my view, thugs - that the president chooses to believe."
House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff, another California Democrat and a fierce Trump critic, said the president's response was "detestable".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47404629
US President Donald Trump has defended North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in the case of an American college student who died after being jailed by North Korea.
Speaking in Hanoi after his summit with Mr Kim broke down, Mr Trump said he did not believe the North Korean leader was aware of Otto Warmbier's ordeal.
Mr Trump said: "He tells me he didn't know about it, and I will take him at his word."
Warmbier was jailed in North Korea in December 2015 during an organised tour.
Pyongyang authorities returned the 22-year-old to the US in a coma in June 2017, and he died days later in his hometown of Cincinnati, Ohio.
Trump-Kim talks break down over sanctions
His case raised tensions at a time when the Trump administration was exchanging vitriolic comments with North Korea.
Mr Trump told reporters he had mentioned the Warmbier case to Mr Kim and the North Korean leader said he was not aware of it at the time, and was regretful.
Media captionSpeaking after his arrest, US student Otto Warmbier said he was "a poor scapegoat"
The US president said: "I did speak about it, and I don't believe that he would have allowed that to happen.
"It just wasn't to his advantage to allow that to happen. Prisons are rough, they're rough places, and bad things happened."
He said Mr Kim "felt very badly about it", adding: "He knew the case very well, but he knew it later. In those prisons, those camps, you have a lot of people."
Last June, at Mr Trump's first summit with North Korea's leader, he credited Warmbier's death with the change in US-North Korea relations.
Mr Trump described the leaders' relationship as "very strong"
"I think without Otto, this would not have happened," Mr Trump told reporters.
"Something happened from that day. It was a terrible thing. It was brutal. A lot of people started to focus on what was going on, including North Korea. I really think that Otto is someone who did not die in vain."
Warmbier's parents were guests of honour at President Trump's State of the Union address in 2018.
The family have said their son was "murdered" by the North Korean authorities.
Warmbier's parents at Mr Trump's State of the Union address
Warmbier, a University of Virginia student, was detained in Pyongyang during an organised tour, accused of stealing a hotel poster.
He was later charged with spying for the US and held for 17 months.
This is not the first time Mr Trump has expressed a willingness to believe a foreign leader.
His response to Mr Kim echoes his reaction to Russian President Vladimir Putin regarding Russian interference in the 2016 US e******n.
"Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,'" Mr Trump said after meeting Mr Putin in Asia last year. "I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it."
Amid backlash from lawmakers and US media over appearing to believe a foreign power over his own intelligence officials, Mr Trump later clarified his statements, saying he accepted the intelligence community's conclusion, but adding: "Could be other people also. A lot of people out there."
More recently, with the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Mr Trump continued to defend Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman despite CIA officials believing the prince ordered the k*****g.
"[It] could very well be that the crown prince had knowledge of this tragic event - maybe he did and maybe he didn't!"
"I h**e the cover-up," Mr Trump told reporters. "And I will tell you this, the crown prince h**es it more than I do. And they vehemently deny it."
What's the reaction?
The Democratic leader of the House of Representatives, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, pointed out that Mr Trump had believed Mr Putin in the past.
The California lawmaker said: "It's strange. I don't know. There is something wrong with Putin, Kim Jong-un - in my view, thugs - that the president chooses to believe."
House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff, another California Democrat and a fierce Trump critic, said the president's response was "detestable".
Mar 2, 2019 06:22:52 #
PeterS wrote:
I know you conservatives will have some excuse but... (show quote)
As usual, even though this happened on Obama's watch, the Liberals give their God King a free pass.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/23/otto-warmbier-north-korea-tour-company-215299
Although Warmbier’s father, Fred, hasn’t spoken publicly about the tour company, he has criticized former President Barack Obama’s policy of “strategic patience”—inaction coupled with regional diplomacy—and credited President Donald Trump with freeing his son. The two men spoke on the phone, an experience Warmbier, in a June 15 news conference, called “gracious.” On June 20, Trump implicitly blamed Obama for the incident, saying, “it’s a disgrace what happened to Otto. It’s a total disgrace.”
Mar 2, 2019 06:46:13 #
Mar 2, 2019 07:29:30 #
Kevyn, do you really think these stupid, photo-opped cartoons advance your cause? It would be nice if you libs could stick with intelligent, logical arguments. It is true that the average IQ of liberals isn't very high in comparison to conservatives but you already have the clueless left in your camp. Maybe you should use something on a little higher level if you want to convert some of your targets.
Mar 2, 2019 07:43:03 #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Kevyn, do you really think these stupid, photo-opped cartoons advance your cause? It would be nice if you libs could stick with intelligent, logical arguments. It is true that the average IQ of liberals isn't very high in comparison to conservatives but you already have the clueless left in your camp. Maybe you should use something on a little higher level if you want to convert some of your targets.
The image is laughable, the quote on the other hand is frightening and it is right out of Trumps mouth. Sometimes levity clearly conveys an idea. In this case it is reprehensible that Trump heaps praise on murdering despots abandoning our nations decades long commitment to human rights. He should be held accountable as should Kim.
Mar 2, 2019 07:52:40 #
Kevyn wrote:
The image is laughable, the quote on the other hand is frightening and it is right out of Trumps mouth. Sometimes levity clearly conveys an idea. In this case it is reprehensible that Trump heaps praise on murdering despots abandoning our nations decades long commitment to human rights. He should be held accountable as should Kim.
Sometimes levity can clearly convey an idea. Junior High School level stupidity merely conveys the mental level of the poster.
Mar 2, 2019 08:05:18 #
Kevyn wrote:
The image is laughable, the quote on the other hand is frightening and it is right out of Trumps mouth. Sometimes levity clearly conveys an idea. In this case it is reprehensible that Trump heaps praise on murdering despots abandoning our nations decades long commitment to human rights. He should be held accountable as should Kim.
Have you ever heard the proverb, "You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar?" I will never understand Trump opponents criticizing him for trying something that no other President was willing to try. Apparently they think Kim would be more favorable to being blasted for his stupidity than for someone actually trying to meet him on the same level. That's why Trump does much under the radar but of course you will never hear about it from the MSM.
Mar 2, 2019 08:38:53 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Kevyn wrote:
The image is laughable, the quote on the other hand is frightening and it is right out of Trumps mouth. Sometimes levity clearly conveys an idea. In this case it is reprehensible that Trump heaps praise on murdering despots abandoning our nations decades long commitment to human rights. He should be held accountable as should Kim.
The nation that murders more Americans than any other nations in the world is Mexico. Trump continuously says how dangerous our borders are, 138 Border Agents have been k**led on our side, and you birds say there is no crisis. Why aren't you accountable? The answer is not printable.
Mar 2, 2019 10:02:40 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
Kevyn wrote:
The image is laughable, the quote on the other hand is frightening and it is right out of Trumps mouth. Sometimes levity clearly conveys an idea. In this case it is reprehensible that Trump heaps praise on murdering despots abandoning our nations decades long commitment to human rights. He should be held accountable as should Kim.
Mar 3, 2019 06:30:03 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
Kevyn wrote:
The image is laughable, the quote on the other hand is frightening and it is right out of Trumps mouth. Sometimes levity clearly conveys an idea. In this case it is reprehensible that Trump heaps praise on murdering despots abandoning our nations decades long commitment to human rights. He should be held accountable as should Kim.
Kevyn and Peters are buffoons for us. We need them as reminders of just how far liberalism has deteriorated.
Mar 3, 2019 06:45:48 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
PeterS wrote:
I know you conservatives will have some excuse but... (show quote)
As usual, PeterS, distorts things. Trump said that he took KIm at his word that he didn't know what was going on with Otto Warbier. It is possible he didn't. A lot of people took the word of some guy from Arkansas when he said he didn't inhale.
Adam Schiff is detestable. So are you.
Mar 3, 2019 06:53:56 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
crazylibertarian wrote:
As usual, PeterS, distorts things. Trump said that he took KIm at his word that he didn't know what was going on with Otto Warbier. It is possible he didn't. A lot of people took the word of some guy from Arkansas when he said he didn't inhale.
Adam Schiff is detestable. So are you.
Adam Schiff is detestable. So are you.
Oh, then it's OK that we have a lying POS now.
Mar 3, 2019 09:33:31 #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Kevyn, do you really think these stupid, photo-opped cartoons advance your cause? It would be nice if you libs could stick with intelligent, logical arguments. It is true that the average IQ of liberals isn't very high in comparison to conservatives but you already have the clueless left in your camp. Maybe you should use something on a little higher level if you want to convert some of your targets.
It's a good thing Obama got Osama bin Laden, Trump would "take him at his word" that bin Laden "had nothing to do with 9/11". Trump believes Putin, MbS, and Kim Jung Un over all of our intel agencies.
Mar 3, 2019 09:42:19 #
Bad Bob wrote:
Oh, then it's OK that we have a lying POS now.
No, it isn't, but Admin lets you stay anyway.
Mar 3, 2019 09:44:56 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
Adam Schiff is detestable. So are you.
Adam Schiff is detestable. So are you.
Adam Schiff will be instrumental in bringing Trump down. Go Adam!
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