Cohen Did Something That's Going To Be Painful And Expensive To Trump (Page 2): You don't have to trust, the paper trail on tax fraud is in black and white. Real estate has values that...

woodguru

padremike wrote:

Yes, we continue to support him because the America we grew up in claims that a man is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. This is just one of many good reasons we can neither abide nor trust people like you!

You don't have to trust, the paper trail on tax fraud is in black and white. Real estate has values that can be fairly easily checked out. You value a property at $50 million for bank purposes and $5 million for tax purposes and somewhere in the middle is the reality, the undervalued tax figure being fraud.

The constitution says that the president cannot have even the appearance of impropriety or conflict of interest. It says nothing about proving it.

woodguru

vernon wrote:

Hell that is common in real estate.You turn inflated numbers to the bank for more money and less to cut
property taxes. You can bet Cohen did the same thing if i were him i don't think i would point fingers.

Cohen and Manafort have been charged with bank fraud for that.

In California I have had taxes increased due to refinances, the value used for a bank loan being the last and most pertinent reflection of the real value. It was a b***h when I refinanced a house I paid $290k for $950k

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Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Doesn't make it legal, perhaps if he didn't want to get caught, he should have stayed out of politics.

I've said from the start that with his business model and bankruptcies running for president was the stupidest thing he could ever do, if he wipes his butt wrong it's news

woodguru

padremike wrote:

The difference is that Obama's DOJ protected all the Obama's criminal administration/mob from actively cooperating with investigations. Who was the first AG to ever be held in contempt of Congress? And then there was an accidental tarmac encounter between Loretta and Bill. It was also the same corrupt FBI that went after Trump. It was the same swamp that the Republican House could not get requested data even when they issued a subpoenaed for it. Big differences sport!

That tarmac encounter? Loretta recused herself from anything germane to anything e******n related. And that was not like the tower meeting with Russians by any stretch...

In fact the tarmac encounter, so what given the number of times Trump has met with judges and people he should never have one on one contact with. At least Lynch knew that was wrong, Trump sees nothing wrong with influencing justice department people.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

woodguru wrote:

I've said from the start that with his business model and bankruptcies running for president was the stupidest thing he could ever do, if he wipes his butt wrong it's news

The man has to be a total fool in get in to politics with all his crimes and sleaze back ground.

Common_Sense_Matters

Bad Bob wrote:

The man has to be a total fool in get in to politics with all his crimes and sleaze back ground.

Has anybody with any integrity ever argued that Trump ISN'T a fool?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Has anybody with any integrity ever argued that Trump ISN'T a fool?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

You don't have to trust, the paper trail on tax fraud is in black and white. Real estate has values that can be fairly easily checked out. You value a property at $50 million for bank purposes and $5 million for tax purposes and somewhere in the middle is the reality, the undervalued tax figure being fraud.

The constitution says that the president cannot have even the appearance of impropriety or conflict of interest. It says nothing about proving it.

Where does it say that?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

Cohen and Manafort have been charged with bank fraud for that.

In California I have had taxes increased due to refinances, the value used for a bank loan being the last and most pertinent reflection of the real value. It was a b***h when I refinanced a house I paid $290k for $950k

Sure you did. Lol!!! What kind of refinance is for more than you owe?

woodguru

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Has anybody with any integrity ever argued that Trump ISN'T a fool?

That's a trick question... Lol

woodguru

nwtk2007 wrote:

Sure you did. Lol!!! What kind of refinance is for more than you owe?

Uh...when you are pulling money out of a house for other things. I had a high end stereo business that was taking massive cash for inventory.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

Uh...when you are pulling money out of a house for other things. I had a high end stereo business that was taking massive cash for inventory.

Just like a lib.

woodguru

nwtk2007 wrote:

Where does it say that?

The section Kelly Anne Conway was always talking about and misreading, that the president cannot have a conflict of interest. They read it to say anything he does is okay because he cannot have a conflict of interest when what it is saying is that the president cannot have even the appearance of any conflicts of interest...

Just look it up, it's been discussed a lot on this site.

The founding fathers were very aware of conflicts of interest and intended to make it clear that they were not acceptable, it's in the emoluments clause section.

woodguru

nwtk2007 wrote:

Just like a lib.

Conservatives don't invest borrowed money and lines of credit in businesses? I was selling as much as $165k a month on the internet, plus direct sales.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

The section Kelly Anne Conway was always talking a... (show quote)

Lol! It doesn't say that he cannot have even the appearance of something. There has to be someone damaged by it here on the states.