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Feb 8, 2019 09:10:43   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
In our current environment of political correctness, it seems anyone critical of the Z*****t treatment of the Palestinian population is viewed as attacking on the state of Israel, and Jews in general. Additionally, they are often condemned as r****t and vilified in the MSM.

It is therefore refreshing to read the piece written by Marjorie Cohn in which she writes, "The Jewish community has a special responsibility to fight Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian lands".

She goes on to say, "There is a false equivalency between criticizing Israel and being anti-Semitic. Any criticism of Israeli policy is labeled anti-Semitism, even though many Jews—including members of Jewish Voice for Peace, Jewish Center for Nonviolence and IfNotNow—oppose the occupation.

The BDS movement is not anti-Israeli, as it targets the policies, not the people, of Israel. And actions against Israel’s policies, including BDS, do not equate to anti-Semitism."

Any OPP'ers who share the view that criticism of Israel's policy on the Palestinian issue is being anti-Semitic should read her article. There is a lot of good source material and background on the creation of the Jewish state.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/02/06/the-progressive-except-palestine-problem/

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Feb 8, 2019 09:16:02   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
ACP45 wrote:
In our current environment of political correctness, it seems anyone critical of the Z*****t treatment of the Palestinian population is viewed as attacking on the state of Israel, and Jews in general. Additionally, they are often condemned as r****t and vilified in the MSM.

It is therefore refreshing to read the piece written by Marjorie Cohn in which she writes, "The Jewish community has a special responsibility to fight Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian lands".

She goes on to say, "There is a false equivalency between criticizing Israel and being anti-Semitic. Any criticism of Israeli policy is labeled anti-Semitism, even though many Jews—including members of Jewish Voice for Peace, Jewish Center for Nonviolence and IfNotNow—oppose the occupation.

The BDS movement is not anti-Israeli, as it targets the policies, not the people, of Israel. And actions against Israel’s policies, including BDS, do not equate to anti-Semitism."

Any OPP'ers who share the view that criticism of Israel's policy on the Palestinian issue is being anti-Semitic should read her article. There is a lot of good source material and background on the creation of the Jewish state.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/02/06/the-progressive-except-palestine-problem/
In our current environment of political correctnes... (show quote)


Palestinian Authority is trying to erase Israel off the face of the Earth....Israel is trying to survive being surrounded by enemies...We need to help Israel ,not to shame them about trying to exist!!!

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Feb 8, 2019 09:23:23   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
In our current environment of political correctness, it seems anyone critical of the Z*****t treatment of the Palestinian population is viewed as attacking on the state of Israel, and Jews in general. Additionally, they are often condemned as r****t and vilified in the MSM.

It is therefore refreshing to read the piece written by Marjorie Cohn in which she writes, "The Jewish community has a special responsibility to fight Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian lands".

She goes on to say, "There is a false equivalency between criticizing Israel and being anti-Semitic. Any criticism of Israeli policy is labeled anti-Semitism, even though many Jews—including members of Jewish Voice for Peace, Jewish Center for Nonviolence and IfNotNow—oppose the occupation.

The BDS movement is not anti-Israeli, as it targets the policies, not the people, of Israel. And actions against Israel’s policies, including BDS, do not equate to anti-Semitism."

Any OPP'ers who share the view that criticism of Israel's policy on the Palestinian issue is being anti-Semitic should read her article. There is a lot of good source material and background on the creation of the Jewish state.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/02/06/the-progressive-except-palestine-problem/
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Another excellent post...
And I wholeheartedly agree with the premise..
Keep them coming...

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Feb 8, 2019 09:27:00   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Palestinian Authority is trying to erase Israel off the face of the Earth....Israel is trying to survive being surrounded by enemies...We need to help Israel ,not to shame them about trying to exist!!!


The premise is not that Israel is undeserving of aid or friendship...
It is that there are actions that, no matter who the perpetrater is or what reasoning they apply,
must not be condoned...
Conflicting individuals who don't agree with certain policies with individuals who are anti-semitic is illogical and needlessly d******e...

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Feb 8, 2019 09:31:40   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The premise is not that Israel is undeserving of aid or friendship...
It is that there are actions that, no matter who the perpetrater is or what reasoning they apply,
must not be condoned...
Conflicting individuals who don't agree with certain policies with individuals who are anti-semitic is illogical and needlessly d******e...


Palestinian Authority pays terrorists $$$$$ to k**l Israelis and Americans...Its not about not agreeing with policies, its about survival of our ally in the ME!!!!

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/palestinian-authority-pays-terrorists-families-140-million-year/

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Feb 8, 2019 09:37:00   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Palestinian Authority pays terrorists $$$$$ to k**l Israelis and Americans...Its not about not agreeing with policies, its about survival of our ally in the ME!!!!


If an ally commits atrocities or crimes why would we not speak up?

The west has had many allies in the middle east... Who armed Saddam? Trained bin Laden? Sells billions in weapons to the middle east?

It's no different than calling out a friend when they make a mistake (intentional or otherwise)...

But silence gives consent...

Do you honestly support every action that Israel has ever taken?

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Feb 8, 2019 09:38:56   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If an ally commits atrocities or crimes why would we not speak up?

The west has had many allies in the middle east... Who armed Saddam? Trained bin Laden? Sells billions in weapons to the middle east?

It's no different than calling out a friend when they make a mistake (intentional or otherwise)...

But silence gives consent...

Do you honestly support every action that Israel has ever taken?


Read the link i provide it,Kyle....

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Feb 8, 2019 09:42:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Read the link i provide it,Kyle....


I am unsure how the two are conflated...
Does one wrong allow for another?
I condemn those actions as well...

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Feb 8, 2019 09:46:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I am unsure how the two are conflated...
Does one wrong allow for another?
I condemn those actions as well...


Its all about the survival.....When somebody tries to k**l you ,you would do what it takes to defend yourself....I dont always agree with Israel,but i agree with them wanting to live!!!!..And dont forget Israel is our ONLY ally in the ME!!!!

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Feb 8, 2019 09:49:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Its all about the survival.....When somebody tries to k**l you ,you would do what it takes to defend yourself....I dont always agree with Israel,but i agree with them wanting to live!!!!..And dont forget Israel is our ONLY ally in the ME!!!!


I suppose, for an outside observer, it would depend on why the individual was trying to k**l you...
I also understand israel's desire to survive...
How are they our only ally in the middle east?
Currently we are involved in Iraq and Afghanistan... As well as with the Kurds in Syria... And selling how much weaponry to the Saudis?

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Feb 8, 2019 10:19:21   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
proud republican wrote:
Palestinian Authority is trying to erase Israel off the face of the Earth....Israel is trying to survive being surrounded by enemies...We need to help Israel ,not to shame them about trying to exist!!!


Proud, please answer one simple question. Did you read the entire article that was written by Marjorie Cohen before issuing this reply? Yes or No?

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Feb 8, 2019 10:20:57   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The premise is not that Israel is undeserving of aid or friendship...
It is that there are actions that, no matter who the perpetrater is or what reasoning they apply,
must not be condoned...
Conflicting individuals who don't agree with certain policies with individuals who are anti-semitic is illogical and needlessly d******e...


Excellent response!

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Feb 8, 2019 10:43:07   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
proud republican wrote:
Palestinian Authority pays terrorists $$$$$ to k**l Israelis and Americans...Its not about not agreeing with policies, its about survival of our ally in the ME!!!!

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/palestinian-authority-pays-terrorists-families-140-million-year/


Proud, as CD has stated, one wrong does not justify a right. I condemn the PLA paying terrorists to k**l Israelis as much as Israels' actions that k**l innocent Palestinian women and children.

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Feb 8, 2019 11:04:31   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
ACP45 wrote:
Proud, please answer one simple question. Did you read the entire article that was written by Marjorie Cohen before issuing this reply? Yes or No?


There,i just read it..And i stand by my posts....

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Feb 8, 2019 11:18:09   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
ACP45 wrote:
In our current environment of political correctness, it seems anyone critical of the Z*****t treatment of the Palestinian population is viewed as attacking on the state of Israel, and Jews in general. Additionally, they are often condemned as r****t and vilified in the MSM.

It is therefore refreshing to read the piece written by Marjorie Cohn in which she writes, "The Jewish community has a special responsibility to fight Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian lands".

She goes on to say, "There is a false equivalency between criticizing Israel and being anti-Semitic. Any criticism of Israeli policy is labeled anti-Semitism, even though many Jews—including members of Jewish Voice for Peace, Jewish Center for Nonviolence and IfNotNow—oppose the occupation.

The BDS movement is not anti-Israeli, as it targets the policies, not the people, of Israel. And actions against Israel’s policies, including BDS, do not equate to anti-Semitism."

Any OPP'ers who share the view that criticism of Israel's policy on the Palestinian issue is being anti-Semitic should read her article. There is a lot of good source material and background on the creation of the Jewish state.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/02/06/the-progressive-except-palestine-problem/
In our current environment of political correctnes... (show quote)


Personally, I understood the article as written by a Progressive Jew who is no friend to Israel and exceptionally naive to reality. I know of no other people as talented as are the Jews. Their very existence to me is proof God exists. Yet they also have produced some despots like Karl Marx who are as disastrous to their own people as they are to others. This progressive female writer is far left and I find her easily dismissed. In t***h, the Palestinians are a pain in the butt to other Arabs and nobody wants them. They're brother Arabs are happy it's a Jewish problem. If you recall, Arafat was offered land and many other concessions and he told Israel to stick it! They reject every offer. More important to them than their own children is the total destruction of the Jewish state. I forget which Jewish leader it was but he or she said and I paraphrase, "we can forgive you for our k*****g one another but we cannot forgive you for making us k**l your children." I can't, for the life of me, believe how reserved Israel has acted towards the Palestinian Terrorist State; obviously a masochistic state who prefers to be constantly beaten than live in peace with their h**ed Jews.

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