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Trump urged end to "ridiculous partisan investigations." Really?
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Feb 7, 2019 23:39:45   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
slatten49 wrote:
Half an inch daily Those become no longer fingernails or toenails, but instead...talons.

Ok, I'm embellishing a bit, bit I do have to clip them every other day or so and grandma tells me it her supplements.

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Feb 8, 2019 01:45:43   #
Nickolai
 
bahmer wrote:
I would not expect a British citizen to fully understand this at all. Robert Mueller is not a republican unless he can be classified as republican because he is a RINO. All of the collusion appears to be on the democrat side and from there on it is only for a show. This whole collusion thing was to keep the egg off of Hilary Clinton's face and so far it is failing miserably because all of the egg is squarely on Hillary's face and no other except maybe Obama. The democrats feel that the republicans stood in the way of Barack Obama and now they are standing in the way of Trump it is like a couple of little kids having a fight. You did it first, no I didn't, did too, did not. Etc.
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That's what happens when one starts flinging feces your going to get it flung bac. It all started with Iran Contra Wingers resented the investigation of Reagan so when Clinton was elected they attacked like a bunch of pit bulls and again when Obama replaced GW

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Feb 8, 2019 10:45:55   #
JediKnight
 
padremike wrote:
I was not a chaplain in nam. I was 48 years old when I went to seminary, many years retired from the military. I never wanted to be a priest until I absolutely had to for my own peace. I would have preferred to be a full time fisherman. I'll tell you precisely the question I finally formulated to asked myself in the exact same language I used 30 years ago. "Is it worth all the bull s**t I absolutely know is involved and coming to serve Christ and His people? After phrasing the question the answer was very easy. I'm still surprised how hard and how long I struggled to form such a simple and answerable question. It convinces me still that I'm about as sharp as a marble.

We all experienced angst, and to some degree continue to do so, over the Vietnam war. Mismanagement is such a trite word given the reality of T***h. Having worked in a VA chapel for 12 years to supplement my meager income as a priest, the thing that sticks foremost in my mind is that Vietnam was the first war we sent our youth into where so many were devoid of faith. We continue to pay that price and it only increased with the wars in the middle east. No faith, no inner peace. The same applies to our nation now in total turmoil over so many issues.
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You wrote: "the thing that sticks foremost in my mind is that Vietnam was the first war we sent our youth into where so many were devoid of faith."// I believe the Civil War would also fit in this category. Thank you very much for your service Padre. I know that God takes care of babies and fools......I know this because I haven't been a baby for quite some time.........yet He sustains me.

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Feb 8, 2019 11:35:36   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
JediKnight wrote:
You wrote: "the thing that sticks foremost in my mind is that Vietnam was the first war we sent our youth into where so many were devoid of faith."// I believe the Civil War would also fit in this category. Thank you very much for your service Padre. I know that God takes care of babies and fools......I know this because I haven't been a baby for quite some time.........yet He sustains me.


The Faith was still very much a part of every community even up thru and including the Korean War and the 1950's. You may be aware of something occurring pre and post the Civil War that I am unaware of. I believe, though, that Church life was also a social life as well as spiritual and then came TV and holy football Sunday.

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Feb 8, 2019 12:14:04   #
JediKnight
 
padremike wrote:
The Faith was still very much a part of every community even up thru and including the Korean War and the 1950's. You may be aware of something occurring pre and post the Civil War that I am unaware of. I believe, though, that Church life was also a social life as well as spiritual and then came TV and holy football Sunday.


Okay -I can accept and agree with that! What I was trying to convey (unsuccessfully) is how so many then (and now) seem to not understand "the faith" that proclaims "we are all equally loved in God's eyes" -and that as God's children we are not to impose our selfish will on others or 'cherry pick' certain biblical t***hs to fit our personal narratives. Peace be unto you!

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Feb 9, 2019 20:10:52   #
cbpat1
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Trump's followers have quite the dilemma; Do they champion law and order and due process, no matter what is exposed, or do they undermine the same to avoid having their own errors exposed? There have been zero indictments brought by the special prosecutor, that is not his job, instead, multiple indictments have been handed down by Grand Juries, who are NOT political appointees and have no vested interest either way.

Patriotic Americans, sitting on those Grand juries, do their Constitutional duty by examining facts to determine whether or not the law MAY have been violated, and make recommendations accordingly. Then, it falls to another panel of peers to determine if laws HAVE been violated, which law or laws, and make their findings known to the court.

Trump, other politicians and the media, trying these cases in public spaces, is an aberration and undermines due process..................which is why Trump keeps doing it. For some reason, Trump decided that being elected President made him exempt from the law and immune to prosecution. Other Presidents have made that same mistake...................................... each of them were corrected to their eventual detriment.
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Well, I've heard all my life that you can indict a ham sandwich, you need so little evidence. If that’s true, then they really must not have anything on Trump, if they haven’t indicted him yet. So much for your theory. I like the ham sandwich theory better.

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Feb 10, 2019 21:18:36   #
Airforceone
 
slatten49 wrote:
Do you think President Trump was right when he urged to stop "ridiculous partisan investigations” during his 2019 State of The Union Address and why?

Alex Denethorn, British citizen

There's only one particularly prominent investigation going on in the US right now, and it's one that Trump is right in the middle of. Sadly for him, it can't really be considered partisan: traditionally, an investigation with a Republican administration involved would be run by a Democrat.

Instead, a Republican President appointed a Republican AG, who in turn appointed an Assistant AG who thereby empowered a Republican Special Investigator to look into the possibility of foreign interference in a P**********l e******n, and to follow any leads, direct or otherwise, that might stem from that investigation.

Partisan? No: what we have now is a Republican President as a subject of a Republican-led investigation.
Bear in mind that this is the same man who (still) often leads his supporters in chants of "Lock her up!" at his political rallies, and who has often used suggestion of criminal misconduct by those who disagree with him as a means of slander. He has attacked President Obama, Hilary Clinton, even James Comey, all suggesting that they have engaged in high levels of criminal activity, yet without providing any evidence of this that would trigger the DOJ to act on it. For someone who is apparently against 'partisan investigations', he sure seems quick to point the finger - particularly for a man who has many close allies and colleagues currently under indictment, and for a man who has even been implicated in several criminal activities himself. Funny, that.

Trump is well aware that his actions both before and during his time as President have not been particularly above-board. He also knows that the priority of the Democrats in the House is now to reassert the oversight prerogatives that the Republicans have largely been ignoring (in their complicity of Trump's actions) over the past two years.

If any President had done half of what Trump has done, you could guarantee that hearings and impeachments would have been the result - hell, look at what was done to Bill Clinton. The restoration of the Democrats to congressional authority was largely on the basis of trying to regulate the President's overreach of authority, and ensure that he is held responsible for his actions - and the Democrats would be failing in their duty to the e*****rate not to follow through.

More than that, though, Trump is scared to death of Robert Mueller, and that's very telling. They do say that an innocent man has nothing to fear, and I feel that applies here. Trump is continuing his usual line of attempting to discredit investigations that are clearly pointing to him - but Mueller was empowered precisely because he is a diligent investigator known for his integrity and thoroughness, on both sides of the aisle. He's the type of man that won't stop until he's reached the very bottom of the barrel, and that scares the crap out of the President. If he's as innocent as he likes to claim, one has to ask: why?

Using the platform of the State of the Union to express this just goes to show how desperate Trump must be feeling - that was a personal plea to put an end to something that is clearly going to have significant ramifications for the President, something he very much seems to fear. I'm again brought back to that single thought: if he has nothing to hide, he should have nothing to fear. That he is responding this way, continuing that same consistent need to undermine judicial oversight…it says he's not innocent at all. He has something to hide, and he's terrified that wh**ever it is (whether kompromat, or something worse) is going to end up exposed.

End the 'partisan' investigations? Why would we do that: they've borne fruit so far, and for Trump to continue to react this way suggests that there's yet more to come. It isn't in the best interest of Donald Trump for the investigation to continue, but it's most definitely in the interests of the United States to get answers - something any other President would understand and even appreciate, I suspect.
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