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Feb 4, 2019 20:19:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
BigMike wrote:
You're saying what we're seeing is business as usual? Bulls**t!




Look em up!! for 10 years or more...

what do you see a different this year?

what was different last year??

Done before and will be again..

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Feb 4, 2019 20:33:25   #
Seth
 
Ferrous wrote:
These i******s aren't trying to "not be caught"... They present themselves to the border agents and state they are seeking asylum. They have been schooled to say this to use our laws against us.

Our politicians are to blame for this immigration mess we find ourselves in. Trump wants to finally deal with true immigration reform but the Democrats and "Never Trumps" are bound and determined to not ever give him a win. They put their own hatred for the president over the well being of our Nation. They are breaking their sworn oath to protect this Nation from enemies both foreign and domestic.
These i******s aren't trying to "not be caugh... (show quote)


Totally true.

Problem being, today's Democrat leadership and those behind them make a mockery of our political system and the Constitution because their ultimate goals include upending the first and doing away with the second..

Trump is in the way, and they can't have that.

Their goal is a socialist planet run by a kleptocracy of elites.

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Feb 4, 2019 20:37:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
Look em up!! for 10 years or more...

what do you see a different this year?

what was different last year??

Done before and will be again..


They're being organized and paid by someone?

Or are you saying that's always happened?

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Feb 4, 2019 20:43:52   #
L8erToots
 
woodguru wrote:
Wouldn't these busts indicate the job doesn't need a wall?
No, it means that if that much is being smuggled into the country on any given day at one point of entry and there are hundreds of unmonitored (unofficial) points of entry along the border, imagine the amount crossing that we DON'T catch.
You either care about the overdose deaths from these drugs, or you don't. Liberals care enough about people being overweight and/or diabetic and think nothing of passing legislation to limit the amount of soft drinks everyone in their state can buy at one time to prevent it (or change the meals in EVERY school across the country), but not do something that only stops the people bringing these deadly drugs INTO our country? C'mon...that just doesn't make sense, meaning the Dem politicans are feeding their v**ers bulls**t.
The world needs do-gooders, just focus on what helps and protects the people of OUR country, not others at our human expense.
Read "Law of Nations" http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm and see thousands of years of successful (and failed) societies and nations to see where BOTH our parties have led us towards destruction, not success.

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Feb 4, 2019 20:46:42   #
L8erToots
 
BigMike wrote:
Oh yeah. Folks on our side have to understand Trump did not walk blindly into this. He's good at what he's doing and he has Help.

Every Battle is Won or Lost Before it is Ever Fought



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Feb 4, 2019 20:56:08   #
L8erToots
 
BigMike wrote:
In 2015 I saw a perfect storm of circumstance would overtake Klinton and said so numerous times on the OPP. Now I realize Klinton is a casualty in a much bigger perfect storm.

All the bad behavior before and after the e******n is just a part of a much larger problem and Trump is acting as a crucible to bring the dross to the top. This irritating delay is to give folks time to wake up and SEE.

Pollsters, pundits and politicians can't tell what God is saying to Americans in the privacy of their hearts.
In 2015 I saw a perfect storm of circumstance woul... (show quote)
I remember (that's about the time I joined OPP) and I agree 100% with your assessment... patience is a virtue we have to relearn and endure because human nature likes to RESIST change ("if something is not outright k*****g me, it means I'm surviving and at least I know it's "safe" so I'm not going to change it").

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Feb 4, 2019 23:30:38   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
L8erToots wrote:
I remember (that's about the time I joined OPP) and I agree 100% with your assessment... patience is a virtue we have to relearn and endure because human nature likes to RESIST change ("if something is not outright k*****g me, it means I'm surviving and at least I know it's "safe" so I'm not going to change it").


I learned something about patience in prison. No choice but! This is a siege against an entrenched and powerful enemy. The fortifications are extensive and have to be taken down a brick at a time.

Fortunately, their puppets here in America (Klinton, Obama, Comey, and many more who will be exposed) are arrogant and stupid. Look what the i***t governor of Virginia did. What made him say stupid stuff like that in public. God did, that's who! He's making them lift their own skirts. They made a fatal mistake going against God.

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Feb 5, 2019 02:27:11   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
OK, so what did Guatemala do about their problem with Mexico??

Mexico is accepting an ever growing number of refugees from the triangle nations.. They took a large number from the caravan in reference..

These people stopped and hands up asked to be arrested, then treated as the BP treats all such aliens every day.. nothing new other then the action to gain attention to their needs..


I see the results of unchecked illegal entry to this nation. I live in California and my neighborhood which was once mainly blue collar workers is now over 90% Hispanics. They live 3 to 4 families to a house. Block the street with cars lined up taking any available spot, New Hispanic money is buying up the homes for sale. Workers go in and convert once single family homes for 2 to 3 living units, all without permits. Police do not patrol the areas because they don't want to alarm the i******s. I was a victim of this Sanctuary BS. A middle aged Hispanic woman with auburn hair crossed over a double yellow line going around a truck blocking her way that was unable to pull into the blocked street until I was able to move. She had no drivers license, registration, and no proof of Insurance. When I got the police report this middle age woman had turned into a licensed 23 year old Hispanic woman with black hair. Complaints to the police was dismissed and I was charged with the accident. Don't tell me about the harm being committed by this unchecked illegal invasion.


I see what is happening to California.

And the border agents do not treat all aliens trying to enter this country the same. They treat the legal ones much different than the illegal ones, I hope.


Those trying to enter this country illegally has reached a crises.

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Feb 5, 2019 05:08:57   #
Seth
 
[[quote=Ferrous]I see the results of unchecked illegal entry to this nation. I live in California and my neighborhood which was once mainly blue collar workers is now over 90% Hispanics. They live 3 to 4 families to a house. Block the street with cars lined up taking any available spot, New Hispanic money is buying up the homes for sale. Workers go in and convert once single family homes for 2 to 3 living units, all without permits. Police do not patrol the areas because they don't want to alarm the i******s. I was a victim of this Sanctuary BS. A middle aged Hispanic woman with auburn hair crossed over a double yellow line going around a truck blocking her way that was unable to pull into the blocked street until I was able to move. She had no drivers license, registration, and no proof of Insurance. When I got the police report this middle age woman had turned into a licensed 23 year old Hispanic woman with black hair. Complaints to the police was dismissed and I was charged with the accident. Don't tell me about the harm being committed by this unchecked illegal invasion.


I see what is happening to California.

And the border agents do not treat all aliens trying to enter this country the same. They treat the legal ones much different than the illegal ones, I hope.


Those trying to enter this country illegally has reached a crises.[/quote]

Liberals/Democrats don't care, because they don't live in your neighborhood.

I've seen this in parts of L.A. County, exactly what you describe, and the worst part is that when longtime American homeowners want to move out because of it, they can't get a decent price for their homes because no one else wants to buy there.

Welcome to Pelosi and Schumer's America.

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Feb 5, 2019 12:35:34   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
how many groups have already come this last year they stand in line to fill out paper work most end up going home. this is nothing but trumps campaign of fear


This is only a Trump made-up crises?... OK


Just business as usual on our Southern border:

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5998737958001/

I did a search if any of the other news agencies were reporting on this and came up with only FOX...


Seems like the Mexican Governor of this Mexican state is taking action.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:33:20   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
BigMike wrote:
They're being organized and paid by someone?

Or are you saying that's always happened?




Mike,

A general information article you may like...

https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-migrant-caravan-misinformation-alert/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/five-myths-about-honduran-caravan-debunked-n922806

MYTH 1: It's being funded by Democrats.

President Donald Trump said at a campaign rally on Thursday that "a lot of money has been passing to people" traveling north from Honduras. A Republican from Florida, Rep. Matt Gaetz, shared a short video that Trump later promoted of migrants being given cash and suggested that they were being funded by left-leaning activist and investor George Soros.

THE FACTS: There is no evidence the caravan is being led by anyone other than Hondurans.

Bartolo Fuentes, a former Honduran lawmaker and social activist, originally got the word out to Hondurans, calling them to meet at the San Pedro Sula bus station to leave the country. Guatemalan police arrested Fuentes last week in the middle of a crowd, shortly after Trump threatened to cut off funding to Guatemala and Honduras if they did not stop the caravan. The caravan now continues without Fuentes, with a handful of different leaders making logistical decisions about when to depart each city.

Immigration experts attribute the size of the caravan and the timing of its travel to cooler weather, as well as gang violence and political turmoil in Honduras after the country's contested p**********l e******n last year.

"The reason that the caravans have been organized are to help protect Central American refugees and migrants as they make the perilous journey through Mexico and to highlight their petitions for asylum," said Elizabeth Oglesby, a professor at the University of Arizona's Center for Latin American Studies.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:40:30   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
they don't charge the border


Rachel Maddow has not let you in on the fact that, they already tried to charge the border and your alien hero's have been throwing rocks at border Patrol agent too.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:41:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
[quote=Ferrous]I see the results of unchecked illegal entry to this nation. I live in California and my neighborhood which was once mainly blue collar workers is now over 90% Hispanics. They live 3 to 4 families to a house. Block the street with cars lined up taking any available spot, New Hispanic money is buying up the homes for sale. Workers go in and convert once single family homes for 2 to 3 living units, all without permits. Police do not patrol the areas because they don't want to alarm the i******s. I was a victim of this Sanctuary BS. A middle aged Hispanic woman with auburn hair crossed over a double yellow line going around a truck blocking her way that was unable to pull into the blocked street until I was able to move. She had no drivers license, registration, and no proof of Insurance. When I got the police report this middle age woman had turned into a licensed 23 year old Hispanic woman with black hair. Complaints to the police was dismissed and I was charged with the accident. Don't tell me about the harm being committed by this unchecked illegal invasion.



I can not be more specific on my position... and that of most Dems/GOP i know..

I/we are all for border security, and willing to pay for it.

but the "wall" is money down the drain.. the problem with the border has been decreasing for near 20 years, from early 2000.

The wall is c*********d now, even before new portions are built..

Spend the money, yes... do not spend on a useless project..


we have been doing the right stuff, as the stats show..

Do more of the same..

They tell me summer will come again..
They tell me summer will come again.....

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Feb 6, 2019 12:50:56   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike,

A general information article you may like...

https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-migrant-caravan-misinformation-alert/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/five-myths-about-honduran-caravan-debunked-n922806

MYTH 1: It's being funded by Democrats.

President Donald Trump said at a campaign rally on Thursday that "a lot of money has been passing to people" traveling north from Honduras. A Republican from Florida, Rep. Matt Gaetz, shared a short video that Trump later promoted of migrants being given cash and suggested that they were being funded by left-leaning activist and investor George Soros.

THE FACTS: There is no evidence the caravan is being led by anyone other than Hondurans.

Bartolo Fuentes, a former Honduran lawmaker and social activist, originally got the word out to Hondurans, calling them to meet at the San Pedro Sula bus station to leave the country. Guatemalan police arrested Fuentes last week in the middle of a crowd, shortly after Trump threatened to cut off funding to Guatemala and Honduras if they did not stop the caravan. The caravan now continues without Fuentes, with a handful of different leaders making logistical decisions about when to depart each city.

Immigration experts attribute the size of the caravan and the timing of its travel to cooler weather, as well as gang violence and political turmoil in Honduras after the country's contested p**********l e******n last year.

"The reason that the caravans have been organized are to help protect Central American refugees and migrants as they make the perilous journey through Mexico and to highlight their petitions for asylum," said Elizabeth Oglesby, a professor at the University of Arizona's Center for Latin American Studies.
Mike, br br A general information article you may... (show quote)



Perm, do you fully support the caravans?

If so you should contact Schumer and offer up some of your property as a sanctuary.

You won't need dumpsters for their refuse, as they are animals and will drop it where they wish.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:05:39   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike,

A general information article you may like...

https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-migrant-caravan-misinformation-alert/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/five-myths-about-honduran-caravan-debunked-n922806

MYTH 1: It's being funded by Democrats.


Who said it was funded by Democrats?

I have sources that went there, spent days there and talked with many of these people.

Quote:
President Donald Trump said at a campaign rally on Thursday that "a lot of money has been passing to people" traveling north from Honduras.


And...?

Quote:
A Republican from Florida, Rep. Matt Gaetz, shared a short video that Trump later promoted of migrants being given cash and suggested that they were being funded by left-leaning activist and investor George Soros.


And the article in wired did not refute that claim. It said there was no "evidence" Soros was paying them. Since they aren't looking I could care less what they say. I don't know what vid Gaetz shared and I suppose to your source it or any others that have surfaced are not "evidence"?

Quote:
THE FACTS: There is no evidence the caravan is being led by anyone other than Hondurans.


Led by? Love the qualifiers! How about who is being led by the Hondurans?

Quote:
Bartolo Fuentes, a former Honduran lawmaker and social activist, originally got the word out to Hondurans, calling them to meet at the San Pedro Sula bus station to leave the country. Guatemalan police arrested Fuentes last week in the middle of a crowd, shortly after Trump threatened to cut off funding to Guatemala and Honduras if they did not stop the caravan. The caravan now continues without Fuentes, with a handful of different leaders making logistical decisions about when to depart each city.

Immigration experts attribute the size of the caravan and the timing of its travel to cooler weather, as well as gang violence and political turmoil in Honduras after the country's contested p**********l e******n last year.
Bartolo Fuentes, a former Honduran lawmaker and so... (show quote)


Things are tough all over. None of these are reasons for them to INVADE the US.

Quote:
"The reason that the caravans have been organized are to help protect Central American refugees and migrants as they make the perilous journey through Mexico and to highlight their petitions for asylum," said Elizabeth Oglesby, a professor at the University of Arizona's Center for Latin American Studies.


Through Mexico? Real refugees would petition for assylum on the country that borders theirs.

I think this is all bulls**t and the people who own the Dems and Establishment Republicans are trying to do here what they did in Europe.

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