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Feb 2, 2019 14:27:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
The topic of Obama having a good reason to give Iran billions in cold hard cash comes up from time to time. So, here's the deal:

I'll make it simple for you. You don't give billions to a terror sponsoring country for any reason what so ever, even if you think it's their money. Does that help??? No matter what the scenario, no matter what yo might have heard, Iran is the greatest terror threat to the entire world and the greatest supporter of terrorists world wide. Period. There are zero reasons to give them any money what so ever. Period. End of story!

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Feb 2, 2019 14:34:28   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The topic of Obama having a good reason to give Iran billions in cold hard cash comes up from time to time. So, here's the deal:

I'll make it simple for you. You don't give billions to a terror sponsoring country for any reason what so ever, even if you think it's their money. Does that help??? No matter what the scenario, no matter what yo might have heard, Iran is the greatest terror threat to the entire world and the greatest supporter of terrorists world wide. Period. There are zero reasons to give them any money what so ever. Period. End of story!
The topic of Obama having a good reason to give Ir... (show quote)


So what's Trump's excuse for giving Russia back money by lifting sanctions? Money and strategic resources that will be going into arms manufacturing that will be used in places against the sides we are supporting.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:17:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
So what's Trump's excuse for giving Russia back money by lifting sanctions? Money and strategic resources that will be going into arms manufacturing that will be used in places against the sides we are supporting.


It's an issue, no doubt, but in the Russian example, without Russia's help, we could not have defeated ISIS or driven them down to where they are at this point. So you tell me.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:30:09   #
Officer Jim Loc: Florida
 
[quote=woodguru]So what's Trump's excuse for giving Russia back money by lifting sanctions? Money and strategic resources that will be going into arms manufacturing that will be used in places against the sides we are supporting.[/quote

This is a childish response. Why should we let Obama off the hook for giving Iran $20 billion just because we allowed Russia to have $100 Million of his own money back. Take one issue at a time.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:50:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
[quote=Officer Jim][quote=woodguru]So what's Trump's excuse for giving Russia back money by lifting sanctions? Money and strategic resources that will be going into arms manufacturing that will be used in places against the sides we are supporting.[/quote

This is a childish response. Why should we let Obama off the hook for giving Iran $20 billion just because we allowed Russia to have $100 Million of his own money back. Take one issue at a time.[/quote]

So OJ, did we give Russia a 100 million or a Russian or a Russian company 100 million dollars?? And, when was the last time Russia was involved in a terrorist attack. Are you aware of the help we got with ISIS??

But over all, I agree with you.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:50:40   #
Carol Kelly
 
woodguru wrote:
So what's Trump's excuse for giving Russia back money by lifting sanctions? Money and strategic resources that will be going into arms manufacturing that will be used in places against the sides we are supporting.


Hardly the same thing. Use your head.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:51:48   #
Carol Kelly
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So OJ, did we give Russia a 100 million or a Russian or a Russian company 100 million dollars?? And, when was the last time Russia was involved in a terrorist attack. Are you aware of the help we got with ISIS??

But over all, I agree with you.


He simply wasn’t thinking. It’s that same Russia/Trump baloney.

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Feb 2, 2019 16:03:09   #
Officer Jim Loc: Florida
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
He simply wasn’t thinking. It’s that same Russia/Trump baloney.


No I was thinking just fine. What we did to Russia by lifting sanctions was just International Political business that made sense as they did us great favors. What Obama did for Iran at the very best borders on Treason. Of course Hillary Clinton was heavily involved in actions like this while she was SoS so the both share in this treasonous action.

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Feb 2, 2019 19:44:57   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
He simply wasn’t thinking. It’s that same Russia/Trump baloney.


I know.

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Feb 2, 2019 21:36:17   #
redpill Loc: Oregon - not PDX
 
woodguru wrote:
So what's Trump's excuse for giving Russia back money by lifting sanctions? Money and strategic resources that will be going into arms manufacturing that will be used in places against the sides we are supporting.


Deflection abounds. If the topic was about the general releasing of US funds to other countries, then so be it. But always throwing in a red herring to the discussion is annoying. Obama committed treason for sending $20B to Iran. Discuss that.

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Feb 2, 2019 22:56:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
redpill wrote:
Deflection abounds. If the topic was about the general releasing of US funds to other countries, then so be it. But always throwing in a red herring to the discussion is annoying. Obama committed treason for sending $20B to Iran. Discuss that.


Indeed!

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Feb 3, 2019 11:20:57   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The topic of Obama having a good reason to give Iran billions in cold hard cash comes up from time to time. So, here's the deal:
I'll make it simple for you. You don't give billions to a terror sponsoring country for any reason what so ever, even if you think it's their money. Does that help???

No. Returning Iran's frozen money was part of a deal made with Iran and the EU. If the money wasn't returned, there would be no incentive for Iran halting production of nuclear weapons.

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Feb 3, 2019 11:29:40   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
No. Returning Iran's frozen money was part of a deal made with Iran and the EU. If the money wasn't returned, there would be no incentive for Iran halting production of nuclear weapons.


Sure kemmer, what ever you say. I see it as a bribe which is totally ignored by Iran. Just how stupid was Obama on this deal anyway??? He negotiated with terrorists. He paid ransom for hostages. And in this, he bribed a terrorist country. I truly lack the words for such way over the top stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Feb 3, 2019 11:37:42   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Sure kemmer, what ever you say. I see it as a bribe which is totally ignored by Iran. Just how stupid was Obama on this deal anyway??? He negotiated with terrorists. He paid ransom for hostages. And in this, he bribed a terrorist country. I truly lack the words for such way over the top stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh we always welcome comments from peanut gallery. Fortunately, the EU is trying to keep the deal intact so that the world won't have to worry about Iran's a-bombs.
Whoever will be the Democratic president starting in 2021 will cancel most of Trump's follies and rejoin the EU in the Iran nuclear deal.

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Feb 3, 2019 11:49:09   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Oh we always welcome comments from peanut gallery. Fortunately, the EU is trying to keep the deal intact so that the world won't have to worry about Iran's a-bombs.
Whoever will be the Democratic president starting in 2021 will cancel most of Trump's follies and rejoin the EU in the Iran nuclear deal.


I have read the deal word for word and am astounded that it was made. No surprise visits. No inspection of military bases. Not even full inspection of bases known to be involved in spinning down radioactive materials. LOL! Are yo kidding me???? And the only authority to confirm compliance is the International Atomic Energy Agency. What an utter joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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