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Jan 19, 2019 08:42:43   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green New Deal” is the most radical and destructive policy proposal offered by a member of Congress in decades. Not only would it destroy roughly 3.4 million jobs related to the f****l f**l industry by eliminating nearly all f****l f**l use by 2030, it would also require “upgrades” to every home and business building in the country and the creation of single-payer health care, a “basic income” program, and a federal jobs guarantee, among many other left-wing policies.

With the backing of Ocasio-Cortez, what was once thought to be a fringe policy idea has gained significant momentum in recent months. At least 40 members of the House have said they support the Green New Deal, and eight likely Democratic p**********l candidates have also said they support most or all of the plan, including Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee and Senators Cory Booker, D-N.J., Kamala Harris, D-Calif., Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.

Although the Green New Deal has received huge amounts of media attention in recent weeks – both positive and negative – the radical origins of the plan have not. Ocasio-Cortez has been labeled an innovative thinker for offering the allegedly visionary Green New Deal, but the t***h is that most of these ideas have been floating around socialist circles since at least the early 2000s, and there is strong evidence to suggest that much of the draft text of Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is merely a revised version of the “Leap Manifesto,” a socialist green-energy plan pushed by far-left environmentalists in Canada.

The “Leap Manifesto” proposes making Canada 100 percent dependent on g***n e****y by 2050, 20 years later than Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. It also calls for “a universal program to build and retrofit energy efficient housing” and huge new “green” public t***sportation projects. Like the Green New Deal, the “Leap Manifesto” encourages “a more localized and ecologically-based agricultural system,” and it proposes the creation of a “universal basic annual income” program. Also in line with the Green New Deal, it demands raising existing taxes and the creation of a carbon-dioxide tax.

The “Leap Manifesto,” which received significant media attention when it was introduced in 2015, was created by a large coalition of far-left organizations and activists in Canada, including Hollywood stars like Ellen Page, Rachel McAdams and Donald Sutherland. The plan was authored by a who’s who of Canadian “eco-socialists” and l*****ts, such as Naomi Klein – a noted critic of capitalism who once wrote that the only way to save the planet from c*****e c****e is “shredding the free-market ideology that has dominated the global economy for more than three decades.”

Some of the other radical people and organizations involved include the influential environmentalist David Suzuki – who has said on multiple occasions he believes political figures who deny the theory humans are causing catastrophic g****l w*****g should be thrown in jail – and 350.org, a left-wing environmental group founded by Bill McKibben.

McKibben is the author of “Maybe One: A Case for Smaller Families,” a book encouraging all people not to have more than one child because, according to McKibben, population growth is hurting the planet. In a lengthy 1998 article for The Atlantic, McKibben even went so far as to say it’s “bad news” the world’s population had grown to six billion.

Among the manifesto’s “initiating organizations” are numerous other far-left groups, such as Black L***s M****r–Toronto, Greenpeace Canada and Climate Justice. Socialist organizations endorsing the plan include ACORN, the International Socialists, Socialist Project, and the Socialist Caucus of Canada’s New Democratic Party, among dozens of others.

Ocasio-Cortez’s close relationship with the Sunrise Movement and Justice Democrats – organizations credited with helping Ocasio-Cortez create her draft proposal – is a direct connection to the socialist “Leap Manifesto.” Some of the leaders of the Sunrise Movement came from McKibben’s 350.org, and Justice Democrats is run by a former member of Bernie Sanders’ 2016 p**********l campaign, which also included numerous advocates of the “Leap Manifesto” and McKibben’s many calls for banning f****l f**ls.

Even Ocasio-Cortez’s branding of the Green New Deal as a kind of “Marshall Plan” that would be “similar in scale to the mobilization efforts seen in World War II” is eerily similar to an article McKibben authored for The New Republic in August 2016, titled "A World at War".

McKibben’s article is riddled with World War II comparisons. For example, McKibben wrote, “And just as FDR brought in experts from the private sector to plan for the defense build-out, she [Hillary Clinton] could get the blueprints for a full-scale climate mobilization in place even as she rallies the political will to make them plausible. Without the same urgency and foresight displayed by FDR—without immediate executive action—we will lose this war.”

Given Ocasio-Cortez’s direct connections to former members of McKibben’s 350.org and the Bernie Sanders p**********l campaign, as well as the close similarities between the language of the Green New Deal and the policies proposed by key environmentalists involved with the “Leap Manifesto,” it seems very likely much of the Green New Deal is nothing more than a recycled version of a failed, three-year-old socialist proposal from Canada.

I guess Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialistic “Green New Deal” proposal isn’t quite as new or visionary as many think it is.

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Jan 19, 2019 08:50:39   #
son of witless
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green New Deal” is the most radical and destructive policy proposal offered by a member of Congress in decades. Not only would it destroy roughly 3.4 million jobs related to the f****l f**l industry by eliminating nearly all f****l f**l use by 2030, it would also require “upgrades” to every home and business building in the country and the creation of single-payer health care, a “basic income” program, and a federal jobs guarantee, among many other left-wing policies.

With the backing of Ocasio-Cortez, what was once thought to be a fringe policy idea has gained significant momentum in recent months. At least 40 members of the House have said they support the Green New Deal, and eight likely Democratic p**********l candidates have also said they support most or all of the plan, including Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee and Senators Cory Booker, D-N.J., Kamala Harris, D-Calif., Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.

Although the Green New Deal has received huge amounts of media attention in recent weeks – both positive and negative – the radical origins of the plan have not. Ocasio-Cortez has been labeled an innovative thinker for offering the allegedly visionary Green New Deal, but the t***h is that most of these ideas have been floating around socialist circles since at least the early 2000s, and there is strong evidence to suggest that much of the draft text of Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is merely a revised version of the “Leap Manifesto,” a socialist green-energy plan pushed by far-left environmentalists in Canada.

The “Leap Manifesto” proposes making Canada 100 percent dependent on g***n e****y by 2050, 20 years later than Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. It also calls for “a universal program to build and retrofit energy efficient housing” and huge new “green” public t***sportation projects. Like the Green New Deal, the “Leap Manifesto” encourages “a more localized and ecologically-based agricultural system,” and it proposes the creation of a “universal basic annual income” program. Also in line with the Green New Deal, it demands raising existing taxes and the creation of a carbon-dioxide tax.

The “Leap Manifesto,” which received significant media attention when it was introduced in 2015, was created by a large coalition of far-left organizations and activists in Canada, including Hollywood stars like Ellen Page, Rachel McAdams and Donald Sutherland. The plan was authored by a who’s who of Canadian “eco-socialists” and l*****ts, such as Naomi Klein – a noted critic of capitalism who once wrote that the only way to save the planet from c*****e c****e is “shredding the free-market ideology that has dominated the global economy for more than three decades.”

Some of the other radical people and organizations involved include the influential environmentalist David Suzuki – who has said on multiple occasions he believes political figures who deny the theory humans are causing catastrophic g****l w*****g should be thrown in jail – and 350.org, a left-wing environmental group founded by Bill McKibben.

McKibben is the author of “Maybe One: A Case for Smaller Families,” a book encouraging all people not to have more than one child because, according to McKibben, population growth is hurting the planet. In a lengthy 1998 article for The Atlantic, McKibben even went so far as to say it’s “bad news” the world’s population had grown to six billion.

Among the manifesto’s “initiating organizations” are numerous other far-left groups, such as Black L***s M****r–Toronto, Greenpeace Canada and Climate Justice. Socialist organizations endorsing the plan include ACORN, the International Socialists, Socialist Project, and the Socialist Caucus of Canada’s New Democratic Party, among dozens of others.

Ocasio-Cortez’s close relationship with the Sunrise Movement and Justice Democrats – organizations credited with helping Ocasio-Cortez create her draft proposal – is a direct connection to the socialist “Leap Manifesto.” Some of the leaders of the Sunrise Movement came from McKibben’s 350.org, and Justice Democrats is run by a former member of Bernie Sanders’ 2016 p**********l campaign, which also included numerous advocates of the “Leap Manifesto” and McKibben’s many calls for banning f****l f**ls.

Even Ocasio-Cortez’s branding of the Green New Deal as a kind of “Marshall Plan” that would be “similar in scale to the mobilization efforts seen in World War II” is eerily similar to an article McKibben authored for The New Republic in August 2016, titled "A World at War".

McKibben’s article is riddled with World War II comparisons. For example, McKibben wrote, “And just as FDR brought in experts from the private sector to plan for the defense build-out, she [Hillary Clinton] could get the blueprints for a full-scale climate mobilization in place even as she rallies the political will to make them plausible. Without the same urgency and foresight displayed by FDR—without immediate executive action—we will lose this war.”

Given Ocasio-Cortez’s direct connections to former members of McKibben’s 350.org and the Bernie Sanders p**********l campaign, as well as the close similarities between the language of the Green New Deal and the policies proposed by key environmentalists involved with the “Leap Manifesto,” it seems very likely much of the Green New Deal is nothing more than a recycled version of a failed, three-year-old socialist proposal from Canada.

I guess Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialistic “Green New Deal” proposal isn’t quite as new or visionary as many think it is.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green Ne... (show quote)



Canada is an interesting study in hypocrisy. I monitor the far left up in the Great White North and they complain vigorously about Cananda's oil industry. Canada may be Green, but the power broker hypocrites know where the big money comes from. It comes from oil. Money green still rules the real world, even in far left wing countries.

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Jan 19, 2019 08:55:17   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
Why does anyone give this barking dog Print space and Air Time. She knows next to nothing about government or economics. Dems soon will have no space in their party for anyone who believes in feeding and housing themselves. Just take other peoples money, they have more than they need and we do not want to work, let the other people do it for us.
Nuclearian wrote:
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green New Deal” is the most radical and destructive policy proposal offered by a member of Congress in decades. Not only would it destroy roughly 3.4 million jobs related to the f****l f**l industry by eliminating nearly all f****l f**l use by 2030, it would also require “upgrades” to every home and business building in the country and the creation of single-payer health care, a “basic income” program, and a federal jobs guarantee, among many other left-wing policies.

With the backing of Ocasio-Cortez, what was once thought to be a fringe policy idea has gained significant momentum in recent months. At least 40 members of the House have said they support the Green New Deal, and eight likely Democratic p**********l candidates have also said they support most or all of the plan, including Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee and Senators Cory Booker, D-N.J., Kamala Harris, D-Calif., Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.

Although the Green New Deal has received huge amounts of media attention in recent weeks – both positive and negative – the radical origins of the plan have not. Ocasio-Cortez has been labeled an innovative thinker for offering the allegedly visionary Green New Deal, but the t***h is that most of these ideas have been floating around socialist circles since at least the early 2000s, and there is strong evidence to suggest that much of the draft text of Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is merely a revised version of the “Leap Manifesto,” a socialist green-energy plan pushed by far-left environmentalists in Canada.

The “Leap Manifesto” proposes making Canada 100 percent dependent on g***n e****y by 2050, 20 years later than Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. It also calls for “a universal program to build and retrofit energy efficient housing” and huge new “green” public t***sportation projects. Like the Green New Deal, the “Leap Manifesto” encourages “a more localized and ecologically-based agricultural system,” and it proposes the creation of a “universal basic annual income” program. Also in line with the Green New Deal, it demands raising existing taxes and the creation of a carbon-dioxide tax.

The “Leap Manifesto,” which received significant media attention when it was introduced in 2015, was created by a large coalition of far-left organizations and activists in Canada, including Hollywood stars like Ellen Page, Rachel McAdams and Donald Sutherland. The plan was authored by a who’s who of Canadian “eco-socialists” and l*****ts, such as Naomi Klein – a noted critic of capitalism who once wrote that the only way to save the planet from c*****e c****e is “shredding the free-market ideology that has dominated the global economy for more than three decades.”

Some of the other radical people and organizations involved include the influential environmentalist David Suzuki – who has said on multiple occasions he believes political figures who deny the theory humans are causing catastrophic g****l w*****g should be thrown in jail – and 350.org, a left-wing environmental group founded by Bill McKibben.

McKibben is the author of “Maybe One: A Case for Smaller Families,” a book encouraging all people not to have more than one child because, according to McKibben, population growth is hurting the planet. In a lengthy 1998 article for The Atlantic, McKibben even went so far as to say it’s “bad news” the world’s population had grown to six billion.

Among the manifesto’s “initiating organizations” are numerous other far-left groups, such as Black L***s M****r–Toronto, Greenpeace Canada and Climate Justice. Socialist organizations endorsing the plan include ACORN, the International Socialists, Socialist Project, and the Socialist Caucus of Canada’s New Democratic Party, among dozens of others.

Ocasio-Cortez’s close relationship with the Sunrise Movement and Justice Democrats – organizations credited with helping Ocasio-Cortez create her draft proposal – is a direct connection to the socialist “Leap Manifesto.” Some of the leaders of the Sunrise Movement came from McKibben’s 350.org, and Justice Democrats is run by a former member of Bernie Sanders’ 2016 p**********l campaign, which also included numerous advocates of the “Leap Manifesto” and McKibben’s many calls for banning f****l f**ls.

Even Ocasio-Cortez’s branding of the Green New Deal as a kind of “Marshall Plan” that would be “similar in scale to the mobilization efforts seen in World War II” is eerily similar to an article McKibben authored for The New Republic in August 2016, titled "A World at War".

McKibben’s article is riddled with World War II comparisons. For example, McKibben wrote, “And just as FDR brought in experts from the private sector to plan for the defense build-out, she [Hillary Clinton] could get the blueprints for a full-scale climate mobilization in place even as she rallies the political will to make them plausible. Without the same urgency and foresight displayed by FDR—without immediate executive action—we will lose this war.”

Given Ocasio-Cortez’s direct connections to former members of McKibben’s 350.org and the Bernie Sanders p**********l campaign, as well as the close similarities between the language of the Green New Deal and the policies proposed by key environmentalists involved with the “Leap Manifesto,” it seems very likely much of the Green New Deal is nothing more than a recycled version of a failed, three-year-old socialist proposal from Canada.

I guess Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialistic “Green New Deal” proposal isn’t quite as new or visionary as many think it is.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green Ne... (show quote)

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Jan 19, 2019 08:58:43   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
Canada is an interesting study in hypocrisy. I monitor the far left up in the Great White North and they complain vigorously about Cananda's oil industry. Canada may be Green, but the power broker hypocrites know where the big money comes from. It comes from oil. Money green still rules the real world, even in far left wing countries.


I would hardly categorize Canada as a 'far left wing' country... Although we are perhaps headed in that direction... The Western (oil producing) provinces are still very conservative (with the exception of certain areas in BC)... The East is very dependent on the west's resources and the revenue Brought in by them...

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Jan 19, 2019 10:18:29   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I would hardly categorize Canada as a 'far left wing' country... Although we are perhaps headed in that direction... The Western (oil producing) provinces are still very conservative (with the exception of certain areas in BC)... The East is very dependent on the west's resources and the revenue Brought in by them...


I just wish Americans would start electing normal people again.

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Jan 19, 2019 11:23:44   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green New Deal” is the most radical and destructive policy proposal offered by a member of Congress in decades. Not only would it destroy roughly 3.4 million jobs related to the f****l f**l industry by eliminating nearly all f****l f**l use by 2030, it would also require “upgrades” to every home and business building in the country and the creation of single-payer health care, a “basic income” program, and a federal jobs guarantee, among many other left-wing policies.

With the backing of Ocasio-Cortez, what was once thought to be a fringe policy idea has gained significant momentum in recent months. At least 40 members of the House have said they support the Green New Deal, and eight likely Democratic p**********l candidates have also said they support most or all of the plan, including Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee and Senators Cory Booker, D-N.J., Kamala Harris, D-Calif., Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.

Although the Green New Deal has received huge amounts of media attention in recent weeks – both positive and negative – the radical origins of the plan have not. Ocasio-Cortez has been labeled an innovative thinker for offering the allegedly visionary Green New Deal, but the t***h is that most of these ideas have been floating around socialist circles since at least the early 2000s, and there is strong evidence to suggest that much of the draft text of Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is merely a revised version of the “Leap Manifesto,” a socialist green-energy plan pushed by far-left environmentalists in Canada.

The “Leap Manifesto” proposes making Canada 100 percent dependent on g***n e****y by 2050, 20 years later than Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. It also calls for “a universal program to build and retrofit energy efficient housing” and huge new “green” public t***sportation projects. Like the Green New Deal, the “Leap Manifesto” encourages “a more localized and ecologically-based agricultural system,” and it proposes the creation of a “universal basic annual income” program. Also in line with the Green New Deal, it demands raising existing taxes and the creation of a carbon-dioxide tax.

The “Leap Manifesto,” which received significant media attention when it was introduced in 2015, was created by a large coalition of far-left organizations and activists in Canada, including Hollywood stars like Ellen Page, Rachel McAdams and Donald Sutherland. The plan was authored by a who’s who of Canadian “eco-socialists” and l*****ts, such as Naomi Klein – a noted critic of capitalism who once wrote that the only way to save the planet from c*****e c****e is “shredding the free-market ideology that has dominated the global economy for more than three decades.”

Some of the other radical people and organizations involved include the influential environmentalist David Suzuki – who has said on multiple occasions he believes political figures who deny the theory humans are causing catastrophic g****l w*****g should be thrown in jail – and 350.org, a left-wing environmental group founded by Bill McKibben.

McKibben is the author of “Maybe One: A Case for Smaller Families,” a book encouraging all people not to have more than one child because, according to McKibben, population growth is hurting the planet. In a lengthy 1998 article for The Atlantic, McKibben even went so far as to say it’s “bad news” the world’s population had grown to six billion.

Among the manifesto’s “initiating organizations” are numerous other far-left groups, such as Black L***s M****r–Toronto, Greenpeace Canada and Climate Justice. Socialist organizations endorsing the plan include ACORN, the International Socialists, Socialist Project, and the Socialist Caucus of Canada’s New Democratic Party, among dozens of others.

Ocasio-Cortez’s close relationship with the Sunrise Movement and Justice Democrats – organizations credited with helping Ocasio-Cortez create her draft proposal – is a direct connection to the socialist “Leap Manifesto.” Some of the leaders of the Sunrise Movement came from McKibben’s 350.org, and Justice Democrats is run by a former member of Bernie Sanders’ 2016 p**********l campaign, which also included numerous advocates of the “Leap Manifesto” and McKibben’s many calls for banning f****l f**ls.

Even Ocasio-Cortez’s branding of the Green New Deal as a kind of “Marshall Plan” that would be “similar in scale to the mobilization efforts seen in World War II” is eerily similar to an article McKibben authored for The New Republic in August 2016, titled "A World at War".

McKibben’s article is riddled with World War II comparisons. For example, McKibben wrote, “And just as FDR brought in experts from the private sector to plan for the defense build-out, she [Hillary Clinton] could get the blueprints for a full-scale climate mobilization in place even as she rallies the political will to make them plausible. Without the same urgency and foresight displayed by FDR—without immediate executive action—we will lose this war.”

Given Ocasio-Cortez’s direct connections to former members of McKibben’s 350.org and the Bernie Sanders p**********l campaign, as well as the close similarities between the language of the Green New Deal and the policies proposed by key environmentalists involved with the “Leap Manifesto,” it seems very likely much of the Green New Deal is nothing more than a recycled version of a failed, three-year-old socialist proposal from Canada.

I guess Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialistic “Green New Deal” proposal isn’t quite as new or visionary as many think it is.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s, D-N.Y., “Green Ne... (show quote)



Is there any doubt that A O'C is the talking head for the same old control elements that have been trying to subjugate our people. The Totalitarian, Socialist Left does not care what destruction it wreaks in order to gain control of the nation.

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Jan 19, 2019 11:26:35   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I would hardly categorize Canada as a 'far left wing' country... Although we are perhaps headed in that direction... The Western (oil producing) provinces are still very conservative (with the exception of certain areas in BC)... The East is very dependent on the west's resources and the revenue Brought in by them...


Classic example of Socialism, those who cannot produce, dictating to those who are producing the wealth of the nation.

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Jan 19, 2019 13:42:19   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I would hardly categorize Canada as a 'far left wing' country... Although we are perhaps headed in that direction... The Western (oil producing) provinces are still very conservative (with the exception of certain areas in BC)... The East is very dependent on the west's resources and the revenue Brought in by them...


You have universal healthcare, do you not ? At any rate like us in the US of A you have your share of pointy headed radicals infesting your education industry. I doubt some of these people could survive in jobs where they had to produce measurable results. Education is one of those fields where it can be difficult to determine whether the product you are putting out is any good. Failure can always be blamed on the quality of the students. Test results can be manipulated.

Your Eastern Liberals are similar to ours'. They have no clue where the wealth comes from which they wish to spend on their fantasies. They h**e Capitalism, Christianity, the Patriarchy., and funny as it seems they h**e T*********rs because most of them are male and are thus trying to steal victim status from females. All in all they are well educated and good at logic, but of late they only speak in echo chambers. They are only good in attack mode. Kinda like the Liberals here. Unable to defend their ideas when confronted.

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Jan 19, 2019 19:51:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
pafret wrote:
Classic example of Socialism, those who cannot produce, dictating to those who are producing the wealth of the nation.


Or a case of humanity preying on humanity...

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Jan 19, 2019 20:18:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
You have universal healthcare, do you not ? At any rate like us in the US of A you have your share of pointy headed radicals infesting your education industry. I doubt some of these people could survive in jobs where they had to produce measurable results. Education is one of those fields where it can be difficult to determine whether the product you are putting out is any good. Failure can always be blamed on the quality of the students. Test results can be manipulated.

Your Eastern Liberals are similar to ours'. They have no clue where the wealth comes from which they wish to spend on their fantasies. They h**e Capitalism, Christianity, the Patriarchy., and funny as it seems they h**e T*********rs because most of them are male and are thus trying to steal victim status from females. All in all they are well educated and good at logic, but of late they only speak in echo chambers. They are only good in attack mode. Kinda like the Liberals here. Unable to defend their ideas when confronted.
You have universal healthcare, do you not ? At any... (show quote)



We have a form of universal healthcare... It varies from province to province... My mother lives in BC and her healthcare is through the BC government... My cousins in Alberta go through their province... Although healthcare is mandated by federal law it did not start from the federal government... I am thinking I should do a post on the history of Canadian healthcare... It would clarrify many misconceptions..

Thank you for differentiating between Eastern liberals and Western Liberals in Canada... the difference is quite noticeable...

The new government is certainly quite radical (Although the East taking from the West is nothing new)...

Our education system (also provincial) has taken a number of 'hits' from the federal government, as well as from sources Closer to home... It pains me to say that the average product of the system today is ill equiped to compete in a competative job market...

Our nation has always been strong as we considered ourselves a mosaic (as compared to the meltingpot of the US) and respected individual communities' rights to live as they pleased.... This is no longer the case... We have become a nation of entitled children... Playing at the game of 'snowflake victimhood'... And attempting to right every 'perceived wrong' in our history....

Sorry... I become more emotional when discussing my nation...

Your 'echo chamber' remark was dead on...

A pleasure to meet you... Are you a Jr?

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Jan 20, 2019 13:34:51   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We have a form of universal healthcare... It varies from province to province... My mother lives in BC and her healthcare is through the BC government... My cousins in Alberta go through their province... Although healthcare is mandated by federal law it did not start from the federal government... I am thinking I should do a post on the history of Canadian healthcare... It would clarrify many misconceptions..

Thank you for differentiating between Eastern liberals and Western Liberals in Canada... the difference is quite noticeable...

The new government is certainly quite radical (Although the East taking from the West is nothing new)...

Our education system (also provincial) has taken a number of 'hits' from the federal government, as well as from sources Closer to home... It pains me to say that the average product of the system today is ill equiped to compete in a competative job market...

Our nation has always been strong as we considered ourselves a mosaic (as compared to the meltingpot of the US) and respected individual communities' rights to live as they pleased.... This is no longer the case... We have become a nation of entitled children... Playing at the game of 'snowflake victimhood'... And attempting to right every 'perceived wrong' in our history....

Sorry... I become more emotional when discussing my nation...

Your 'echo chamber' remark was dead on...

A pleasure to meet you... Are you a Jr?
We have a form of universal healthcare... It varie... (show quote)


A Jr. No. Witless did that honor to one of my other siblings for which I am grateful, although he was really a second and not a Jr.

I used to get into severe discussions with Liberals during the Bush years, the dial up years. Since then they no longer wish to hear opposition, but I still visit their sites to monitor their thinking and to remind myself why I h**e their ideology. There is one still active in Eastern Canada and one who used to be in Alaska that are as far left as it gets. They are just as sure that they are moral and right on the issues as I am sure they are not.

I do not mean to disparage your country. Canada and the United States are friends and natural allies, who have common history with English culture. In that we are fortunate because Great Britain is one of the few old World nations to have successful self government traditions. Going back to the Magna Carta and up to Oliver Cromwell, Britain had examples of successful challenges to Divine Right Monarchs, and self governing councils, such as Parliament.

As daughters of Great Britain, the US, Canada, Australia, and the rest, have in my opinion been far more successful by any measure than the former colonies of say, Spain. Canada is often held up to me as an example of successful Liberal government, after which times I generally slam your country pretty hard.

I have heard that Canada has gone the way of Europe in attacking free speech by way of h**e speech laws.

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Jan 20, 2019 19:27:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
A Jr. No. Witless did that honor to one of my other siblings for which I am grateful, although he was really a second and not a Jr.

I used to get into severe discussions with Liberals during the Bush years, the dial up years. Since then they no longer wish to hear opposition, but I still visit their sites to monitor their thinking and to remind myself why I h**e their ideology. There is one still active in Eastern Canada and one who used to be in Alaska that are as far left as it gets. They are just as sure that they are moral and right on the issues as I am sure they are not.

I do not mean to disparage your country. Canada and the United States are friends and natural allies, who have common history with English culture. In that we are fortunate because Great Britain is one of the few old World nations to have successful self government traditions. Going back to the Magna Carta and up to Oliver Cromwell, Britain had examples of successful challenges to Divine Right Monarchs, and self governing councils, such as Parliament.

As daughters of Great Britain, the US, Canada, Australia, and the rest, have in my opinion been far more successful by any measure than the former colonies of say, Spain. Canada is often held up to me as an example of successful Liberal government, after which times I generally slam your country pretty hard.

I have heard that Canada has gone the way of Europe in attacking free speech by way of h**e speech laws.
A Jr. No. Witless did that honor to one of my othe... (show quote)


Sadly yes... We have implemented a number of laws regarding 'h**e speech'... It is a travesty...

Canada currently has a Liberal government.. You would be hard pressed to find someone in the west who would label it as successful...

I found your posts quite acceptable... Just a natural reaction to come to the defense of my country...

A pleasure to meet you..

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Jan 20, 2019 21:57:57   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
I also find no problem with your comments. The only speech I have problem with is h**e and r****t speech. As humans with all deserve our right to FREE speech but at the same time we have to realize the other side deserves the same right. But we do not need laws that limit your rights and the labeling of speech. Just keep clean and funny. Canada currently got a BO for a leader now surly soon the Canadians will send him HOME, which we never did.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sadly yes... We have implemented a number of laws regarding 'h**e speech'... It is a travesty...

Canada currently has a Liberal government.. You would be hard pressed to find someone in the west who would label it as successful...

I found your posts quite acceptable... Just a natural reaction to come to the defense of my country...

A pleasure to meet you..

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Jan 21, 2019 01:16:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Owl32 wrote:
I also find no problem with your comments. The only speech I have problem with is h**e and r****t speech. As humans with all deserve our right to FREE speech but at the same time we have to realize the other side deserves the same right. But we do not need laws that limit your rights and the labeling of speech. Just keep clean and funny. Canada currently got a BO for a leader now surly soon the Canadians will send him HOME, which we never did.


Hi there...
I agree concerning free speech...

May I inquire as too what a BO is?

Nice to meet you...

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Jan 21, 2019 06:24:20   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sadly yes... We have implemented a number of laws regarding 'h**e speech'... It is a travesty...

Canada currently has a Liberal government.. You would be hard pressed to find someone in the west who would label it as successful...

I found your posts quite acceptable... Just a natural reaction to come to the defense of my country...

A pleasure to meet you..


It is good to have a new source of information on Canada. Most of what I get does not come directly from Canadians. As I age I am getting bad with putting names on faces and personalities. I've mixed up some liberals on OPP because they are clones of one mind. Canuckus Deploracus is distinctive. I should be able to pick you out in the crowd here on OPP.

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