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Jan 18, 2019 18:14:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Evangelicals are doing a great job tolerating the kinds of sin that are unacceptable
WTF do you know about what kinds of sin are unacceptable? WTF do you know about anything spiritual or religious? You're just mouthing progressive bulls**t.

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Jan 18, 2019 18:33:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
Tolerance for sin comes easiest for those who sin the most. The hard right loves it


You really do hit yourself in the head with a hammer because it feels good when you stop don't you? I expect you are so completely lost that you actually believe your own comment. That's a real tragedy. You moral relativistic atheist have become the pinnacle of virtue. Uh huh! Right!

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Jan 18, 2019 18:37:15   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
Evangelicals are doing a great job tolerating the kinds of sin that are unacceptable


You need help keeping your mouth shut because every time you make a comment like the one above you reveal how truly nuts, wrong and uninformed you are.

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Jan 18, 2019 18:55:56   #
Morgan
 
Bad Bob wrote:
If Jesus was a conservative, he would've been worshiping the sun God.


If Jesus was a conservative, he'd have guards with semi-automatics at the doors, choosing who can come into his church.

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Jan 18, 2019 19:18:03   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
WTF do you know about what kinds of sin are unacceptable? WTF do you know about anything spiritual or religious? You're just mouthing progressive bulls**t.


What do you know about what I know?

I know a p*******e has no business running for the senate, especially when he's already been kicked off the bench twice for violations of the constitution.

I know Trump is a despicable human being

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Jan 18, 2019 20:09:45   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Morgan wrote:
If Jesus was a conservative, he'd have guards with semi-automatics at the doors, choosing who can come into his church.


A lot you don't yet know about Jesus and being a conservative. But I understand you "think" you know a great deal so that's all you need to satisfy yourself as being a resident expert huh?

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Jan 18, 2019 20:18:50   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
What do you know about what I know?

I know a p*******e has no business running for the senate, especially when he's already been kicked off the bench twice for violations of the constitution.

I know Trump is a despicable human being


I know you think you know everything worth knowing. And I concur that you are entitled to your ridiculous opinions. They are entertaining in a sick and demented way.

If Trump is, as you claim, a despicable human being then why haven't you wholly embraced him? You might need to reassess your opinion.

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Jan 18, 2019 21:39:21   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
woodguru wrote:
I'll kind of go with that one, I get it, my progressive side causes me to be labeled as a liberal by the hard right.


Why is there a need to label oneself?? Does that label define you ??

Are we not more than that label of something for something?? I say yes, we are and you are known for the totality of your being not just one percieved conception...Yes???

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Jan 18, 2019 21:45:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
Why is there a need to label oneself?? Does that label define you ??

Are we not more than that label of something for something?? I say yes, we are and you are known for the totality of your being not just one percieved conception...Yes???


We do enjoy our cliques, don't we?

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Jan 18, 2019 21:59:14   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
woodguru wrote:
Which side professes love and tolerance for gays, for other races, for everyone?

There is no halfway or circumstances, you either do or you don't


Neither, one lies about their alledged support while the other claims its immorality, at least as they see it...

I believe life is a compromise, to a certain degree, remove it and you get well, we get what we are living right now~~ checkmate, stagnation, and lost is the miraculous ability in finding a compromise none may agree with but that moves us forward..

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Jan 18, 2019 22:41:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We do enjoy our cliques, don't we?


That we do.. I suspect for some they believe it truly defines them..


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Jan 18, 2019 22:51:58   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
lindajoy wrote:
Neither, one lies about their alledged support while the other claims its immorality, at least as they see it...

I believe life is a compromise, to a certain degree, remove it and you get well, we get what we are living right now~~ checkmate, stagnation, and lost is the miraculous ability in finding a compromise none may agree with but that moves us forward..


If a conservative Christian slowly and over time compromise his faith, a little bit here, a little bit there, what will be the inevitable results? And to whom are they compromising and who ultimately gains? The Christian always loses. It's really a moot point because millions of serious people of faith for two thousand choose martyrdom because they could not compromise their faith. It continue to happen every single day. Politicians can compromise over political issues. What can a Christian gain by compromising Christ? When Democrats and Republicans held the same morals, values and respect for the faith, they were never called on to compromise anything except politics and our political system worked. Not the situations we face today is it?

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Jan 18, 2019 22:59:49   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
That we do.. I suspect for some they believe it truly defines them..



And for others the cliques are defined by them

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Jan 18, 2019 23:28:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
padremike wrote:
Sorry mon cher but Jesus was very intolerant of sin but is always joyful to forgive those who truly repent.


??? I’m a bit confused here?? Intolerant of sin??? If so then why is so much of the bible discussing forgiveness of sin by He above..

Please help me understand better...

I said nothing of He and sin but will say,
Jesus forgave a murderer and thief and preached forgiveness of sin~~

Lest we forget ~~

Matthew 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins...

Ephesians 4:31-32
31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.m

John 1:8-10 English Standard Version (ESV)

8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the t***h is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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Jan 18, 2019 23:51:24   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
padremike wrote:
If a conservative Christian slowly and over time compromise his faith, a little bit here, a little bit there, what will be the inevitable results? And to whom are they compromising and who ultimately gains? The Christian always loses. It's really a moot point because millions of serious people of faith for two thousand choose martyrdom because they could not compromise their faith. It continue to happen every single day. Politicians can compromise over political issues. What can a Christian gain by compromising Christ? When Democrats and Republicans held the same morals, values and respect for the faith, they were never called on to compromise anything except politics and our political system worked. Not the situations we face today is it?
If a conservative Christian slowly and over time c... (show quote)


I suspect that is best said by defining what Christian values there are to compromise as much as its a matter of personal conviction in our individual acceptance as we hold our faith true..

As you point out it has always in some way been c*********d for us and in some way of moral redress we have to fight to preserve our Christianity... A never ending challenge to do away with Christians we must stay the challenge and in every challenge succeed..

I wish we were not under constant attack but we are and have been since the inception of Jesus to show us the way to Our Lord.. I accept that and will always stand in my Faith as I believe Him to be..
The rest I have to just pray they are as committed and will not compromise..

And, no, Mike it isn’t the same at all when we consider what we have c*********d for the PCBS over anything else..

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