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Jan 14, 2019 12:49:06   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative press about Trump and given that many of his own party were actively working against him and given just how little we found of what Russia allegedly did, how exactly did the Russians get Trump elected????? Add to that how most of the "Russian" interference was about agitating people with regards to r****m and race issues, which I would think would have helped Hillary since Trump is obviously a great big ole r****ts, how DID they do it???

We'd better be very careful. If the Russians can do so much with so little, we can't be sure of anything!!!! We'd best nuke'em right now before they put the entire weight of Russian talent into effecting our country!!

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Jan 14, 2019 13:06:59   #
Kazudy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative press about Trump and given that many of his own party were actively working against him and given just how little we found of what Russia allegedly did, how exactly did the Russians get Trump elected????? Add to that how most of the "Russian" interference was about agitating people with regards to r****m and race issues, which I would think would have helped Hillary since Trump is obviously a great big ole r****ts, how DID they do it???

We'd better be very careful. If the Russians can do so much with so little, we can't be sure of anything!!!! We'd best nuke'em right now before they put the entire weight of Russian talent into effecting our country!!
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative p... (show quote)


C'mon nwkt, it is so simple I'm shocked that you can't see what the rest of us see. They the told white married women to pleasure their husbands by v****g for Trump, then the rest of Hillary's v**ers like Whoopi, George Lopez, you know the Hollywood elites they simply put a gun to their head and told them to v**e for Trump or else. Geez it's that simple, can't you see that?

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Jan 14, 2019 13:27:39   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative press about Trump and given that many of his own party were actively working against him and given just how little we found of what Russia allegedly did, how exactly did the Russians get Trump elected????? Add to that how most of the "Russian" interference was about agitating people with regards to r****m and race issues, which I would think would have helped Hillary since Trump is obviously a great big ole r****ts, how DID they do it???

We'd better be very careful. If the Russians can do so much with so little, we can't be sure of anything!!!! We'd best nuke'em right now before they put the entire weight of Russian talent into effecting our country!!
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative p... (show quote)
With all the information out there describing exactly how Russians target v**ers on social media do you realy not understand?

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Jan 14, 2019 13:33:11   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kazudy wrote:
C'mon nwkt, it is so simple I'm shocked that you can't see what the rest of us see. They the told white married women to pleasure their husbands by v****g for Trump, then the rest of Hillary's v**ers like Whoopi, George Lopez, you know the Hollywood elites they simply put a gun to their head and told them to v**e for Trump or else. Geez it's that simple, can't you see that?


I was trying not to be obvious!! Lol!.

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Jan 14, 2019 13:36:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
With all the information out there describing exactly how Russians target v**ers on social media do you realy not understand?


Well over half the Russian social media efforts were about stirring up r****m. How would that help the "r****t" Trump? Lol! And yes, their social media efforts weren't a fraction of the effect of the negative press. Are you saying that the left is just so stupid as to be easily swayed by a meme on social media? Then yes, maybe you're right! Lololol!!!

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Jan 15, 2019 07:26:35   #
rebob14
 
Kevyn wrote:
With all the information out there describing exactly how Russians target v**ers on social media do you realy not understand?


Ohhhhh......now I get it..........you mean unlike dear leader from behind who actually campaigned on international TV in Britain to defeat Brexit? Also worked in Israel to defeat the re-elect of Netanyahu. You’re right......so unlike those sneaky, scary Ruskies!

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Jan 15, 2019 07:29:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
With all the information out there describing exactly how Russians target v**ers on social media do you realy not understand?


Actually there isn't very much. Maybe you could enlighten us.

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Jan 15, 2019 14:43:30   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative press about Trump and given that many of his own party were actively working against him and given just how little we found of what Russia allegedly did, how exactly did the Russians get Trump elected????? Add to that how most of the "Russian" interference was about agitating people with regards to r****m and race issues, which I would think would have helped Hillary since Trump is obviously a great big ole r****ts, how DID they do it???

We'd better be very careful. If the Russians can do so much with so little, we can't be sure of anything!!!! We'd best nuke'em right now before they put the entire weight of Russian talent into effecting our country!!
Given that 98% of the MSM we publishing negative p... (show quote)




Gee didn't you hear. $100,000 of Facebook ads which nearly half were designed to help hildabeast.

So for the hundreds of millions spent between Trump and Hillary, the Russians made Trump win with less than a hundred thousand dollars.
Now that everyone knows that is running for future p**********l e******ns. Instead of spending millions, just higher the Russians and win the e******n for under a hundred K..

This is how brainwashed, moronic, i***tic, just plain stupid the left is, to believe that the Russians effected the e******n outcome and even why Comey said after the investigation that the "Russians did not effect the outcome"

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Jan 15, 2019 14:49:41   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
...and given just how little we found of what Russia allegedly did, how exactly did the Russians get Trump elected?????


What they did was major, there is one element reported that invested $200 million in cyber efforts...

There is evidence linking sophisticated social media tools working in conjunction with Russian entities

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Jan 15, 2019 15:36:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Gee didn't you hear. $100,000 of Facebook ads which nearly half were designed to help hildabeast.

So for the hundreds of millions spent between Trump and Hillary, the Russians made Trump win with less than a hundred thousand dollars.
Now that everyone knows that is running for future p**********l e******ns. Instead of spending millions, just higher the Russians and win the e******n for under a hundred K..

This is how brainwashed, moronic, i***tic, just plain stupid the left is, to believe that the Russians effected the e******n outcome and even why Comey said after the investigation that the "Russians did not effect the outcome"
Gee didn't you hear. $100,000 of Facebook ads whic... (show quote)


LOLOL! It's true!

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Jan 15, 2019 15:37:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
What they did was major, there is one element reported that invested $200 million in cyber efforts...

There is evidence linking sophisticated social media tools working in conjunction with Russian entities


Lets see some evidence for that, not a CNN article!

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Jan 15, 2019 15:46:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
What they did was major, there is one element reported that invested $200 million in cyber efforts...

There is evidence linking sophisticated social media tools working in conjunction with Russian entities
Helloooo! Ding Dong. Anybody home?


The Russians Colluded Massively — with Democrats
By Deroy Murdock

February 24, 2018 11:00 AM

Mueller scours Team Trump for Russian collusion as Dems marinate in it

Special counsel Robert Mueller and his investigators resemble axe-wielding firefighters frantically stomping through a house and not finding so much as a lit birthday candle. Meanwhile, the home next door burns to the basement.

Team Mueller’s never-ending hunt for reds in October 2016 has found zero evidence of Russian collusion among Team Trump. In contrast, Russian collusion among Democrats has been as hard to miss as a California wildfire. And yet they still miss it.

Team Mueller did find Russian interference in the 2016 e******n — and how! The February 16 announcement of federal criminal indictments against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies was a Cold War flashback. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told journalists that Russians close to the Kremlin infiltrated the last p**********l campaign “to promote discord in the United States and undermine public confidence in democracy.”

But Rosenstein threw a bucket of wet sand onto the Left’s simmering narrative that DJT = KGB. The Russian meddling began in 2014, well before Donald J. Trump’s campaign commenced. The Russians promoted Vermont senator Bernie Sanders’s Democratic-primary bid and Green-party nominee Jill Stein’s general-e******n effort. After T***p w*n, the Russians organized pro-Trump and anti-Trump demonstrations, once in New York City on the same day. They also staged an anti-Trump rally in Charlotte.

Furthermore, Rosenstein said, “There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity.” Thus far, anyone on Team Trump who might have worked with Russians did so after being hoodwinked, not due to treason — as Democrats have shouted for more than a year.

Also, none of this should comfort Hillary Clinton. Rosenstein said: “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 e******n.” So, rather than blame Russia for her epic fail, Hillary finally should concede that she lost a mismanaged campaign that barely visited Michigan and avoided Wisconsin as if it had been quarantined.

Throughout these events, the president of the United States was not Donald Trump. It was Barack Obama. He appears to have done little to nothing about this Russian penetration of America’s contest for the White House, other than to tell Putin to “cut it out” at a September 2016 meeting in China.

Meanwhile, as if to bury the illusory Russia–Trump nexus even further, a February 7 U.S.-led coalition airstrike on pro-Assad “mercenaries” in eastern Syria k**led “several dozen” Russians, Moscow admitted. Sending Russians home in boxes is hardly what one would expect from Vladimir Putin’s “puppet” in Washington, no matter how much Joy Behar and Rachel Maddow huff and puff to the contrary.

In short, there is not enough proof of Russian collusion by Trump to fuel a stovetop pilot light.

In contrast, the evidence of Democratic collusion with Russia blazes on, even as Team Mueller ignores it.

The Obama administration’s Russian Reset began in Geneva on March 6, 2009. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton huddled with Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov, and together they pressed a red button that should have been labeled “Reset” in Russian. Instead, Hillary’s aides had mislabeled it with the Russian word for “Overload.” Regardless, once pushed, the button symbolized a red dawn of increasingly cozy U.S.–Russian affairs.
Obama announced on September 17, 2009, that he would cancel President George W. Bush’s plan to station missile-defense systems in Poland and the Czech Republic. “This is a U-turn in U.S. policy,” complained former Czech ambassador to Washington Alexander Vondra. “Russia had furiously opposed the project, claiming it targeted Moscow’s nuclear arsenal,” added Luke Harding and Ian Traynor of London’s Guardian. “Obama’s climb-down is likely to be seen by Russia as a victory.”

Indeed, Vladimir Putin applauded Obama’s strategic abandonment of the Poles and Czechs. The Russian strongman said: “I do anticipate that this correct and brave decision will be followed by others.”

Putin soon savored more first-class service on the Russian Collusion Express. Barely a month after shafting Poland and the Czech Republic, Team Obama began to ply Putin with planes. To that end, Hillary jetted to Moscow on October 13, 2009.

“We’re delighted that a new Russian airline, Rosavia, is actively considering the acquisition of Boeing aircraft,” Clinton declared at Moscow’s Boeing Design Center. “The Ex-Im Bank would welcome an application for financing from Rosavia to support its purchase of Boeing aircraft.” Three days later, the Washington Post reports, “Boeing formally submitted its bid for the Russian deal.”

On June 1, 2010, the Kremlin-owned Rostekhnologii company — now Rostec — decided to purchase up to 50 Boeing 737s for Russia’s national airline, Aeroflot. Price: $3.7 billion.

That August 17, just ten weeks later, Boeing unveiled a $900,000 gift to the Clinton Foundation to “help support the reconstruction of Haiti’s public education system” after an earthquake had pulverized that destitute island the previous January.

Hillary also promoted Skolkovo, an “innovation city” near Moscow, backed by Kremlin seed rubles worth some $5 billion.

“At a long meeting I had with [Russia’s then-president Dimitry] Medvedev outside Moscow in October 2009, he raised his plan to build a high-tech corridor in Russia modeled after our own Silicon Valley,” Hillary explained. “I suggested that he visit the original in California,” she added.

Hillary’s State Department arranged for 22 leading U.S. venture capitalists to tour Skolkovo in May 2010. Medvedev, in turn, traversed Silicon Valley the next month.

State persuaded Cisco, Google, and Intel, among others, to join Skolkovo. By 2012, the project boasted 28 “Key Partners” in America, Europe, and Russia. Three-fifths of these organizations donated to the Clinton Foundation or paid Bill Clinton speaking fees. From Russia with Money, an August 2016 paper by the Government Accountability Institute, reported that 17 “Key Partners” contributed between $6.5 million and $23.5 million to the Clinton Foundation.

But by 2013, the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Program warned: “Skolkovo is arguably an overt alternative to clandestine industrial espionage.” Boston-based FBI agent Lucia Ziobro concluded in 2014, “The FBI believes the true motives of the Russian partners, who are often funded by their government, is to gain access to classified, sensitive, and emerging technology from the companies.”

While visiting Moscow on March 24, 2010, Hillary justified these actions: “Our goal is to help strengthen Russia.”

She said this to First Channel TV host Vladimir Pozner, a Soviet-era relic who still communicates in barely accented English — just as he did when he tried to sell Western audiences on the joys of C*******m.

Rosatom, the Russian State Atomic Energy Corporation, announced plans on June 8, 2010, to buy a 51.4 percent stake in Uranium One — a Canadian company whose international assets included some 20 percent of America’s reserves of the active ingredient in atomic reactors and nuclear weapons. This $1.3 billion purchase of a strategic-commodity company required the approval of the mysterious Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. Hillary was one of nine federal-agency chiefs on CFIUS (pronounced SIPH-ee-us).

Three weeks later, Bill Clinton keynoted a Moscow conference staged by a Kremlin-tied investment bank that promoted Uranium One’s acquisition. Renaissance Capital paid Clinton $500,000 for his one-hour speech that June 29.

CFIUS’s evaluation of Rosatom’s offer, Clinton Cash author Peter Schweizer observed, coincided with “a spontaneous outbreak of philanthropy among eight shareholders in Uranium One.” Then-chairman Ian Telfer gave the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative $3.1 million. Founder Frank Giustra gave the Clinton Foundation $131.3 million. Before, during, and after CFIUS’s review, Schweizer calculates, “shareholders involved in this t***saction had t***sferred approximately $145 million to the Clinton Foundation or its initiatives.”

Leading congressional Republicans rebelled.

“We believe that this potential takeover of U.S. nuclear resources by a Russian government–owned agency would pose great potential harm to the national security of the United States,” Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida, then the ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, wrote CFIUS’s then-chairman, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. The top Republicans on the Financial Services, Homeland Security, and Armed Services Committees also signed Ros-Lehtinen’s October 5, 2010, letter, which beseeched CFIUS to “block the sale.”

As a CFIUS member, the ever-voluble Hillary could have heeded this red alert and stopped Putin from controlling a fifth of U.S. uranium supplies.

No such luck.

Eighteen days after the GOP’s admonition, CFIUS let Rosatom purchase a majority stake in Uranium One. Subsequent investments pushed the Kremlin’s share of Uranium One to 100 percent by January 2013.

Soon after taking total control of Uranium One, Rosatom CEO Sergei Kiriyenko crowed: “Few could have imagined in the past that we would own 20 percent of U.S. reserves.”

Obama clearly signaled the Kremlin that the Russian collusion would continue in his second term. At a March 26, 2012, meeting in Seoul, South Korea, an open microphone captured his conversation with Medvedev, which neither knew was being recorded.

Obama asked for Russia’s patience, “particularly with missile defense.” Obama added: “This is my last e******n. . . . After my e******n, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev replied: “I will t***smit this information to Vladimir.”

Obama got Moscow to rescue him from his Syrian “red line” fiasco.

Obama boasted in August 2012 that “a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized.”

On August 21, 2013, Syrian dictator Bashar Assad struck rebel-controlled Ghouta with sarin nerve gas, k*****g hundreds of civilians, including boys and girls. The whole world was watching as Obama did nothing, even after Assad clearly poisoned his way across that red line.

Then–secretary of state John Kerry generated titters that September 8 when he said that America might ruffle Assad with “unbelievably small” air strikes. Kerry also said that day in London that Assad should surrender his chemical weapons and “allow a full and total accounting for that.”

Moscow loved the concept.

“Within an hour, an hour and a half,” Kerry said, “I got a phone call from Sergei Lavrov of Russia suggesting that was a really good idea.”

By mid-September, the U.S. and Russia agreed that Assad would remain untouched, and Syria would sign the Chemical Weapons Convention and yield its toxins.

While doves defended this display of diplomacy and disarmament over resolve and force, this policy certainly increased Russia’s global prestige and regional influence. But ultimately this agreement proved hollow when Assad yet again unleashed chemical weapons on his people last April, k*****g some 100 civilians. In response, President Trump finally enforced Obama’s red line by raining 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles on Shayrat airfield, whence Assad had perpetrated that chemical assault.

Republican senators Charles Grassley of Iowa and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina drafted a January 4 criminal referral against former British spy Christopher Steele.

“According to the law firm Perkins Coie,” Grassley and Graham wrote, in June 2016, “Mr. Steele’s dossier-related efforts were funded through Fusion GPS by that law firm on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton Campaign.” Steele’s work scored him $160,000.

Grassley and Graham note: “On the face of the dossier, it appears that Mr. Steele gathered much of his information from Russian government sources inside Russia.” (Emphasis added.) The contents of this “salacious and unproven” dossier (in former FBI chief James Comey’s words) wound up triggering a questionable wiretap on former Trump adviser Carter Page and filling newspapers and broadcasts with anti-Trump propaganda.

So, the relentless, fruitless quest for Russian collusion among Team Trump instead finds it alive and well among Team Clinton — and as tough to detect as a May Day march through Red Square.

If Special Counsel Robert Mueller sincerely wishes to expose Russian collusion in general, rather than search in vain for the Republican strain of this v***s, he should scrutinize the other side of the aisle. Democrats colluded with Russia from 2009 to at least 2016. If Mueller has no idea where to look, he might start by connecting the nine dots that appear above.

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Jan 15, 2019 16:50:05   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
[quote=Blade_Runner]Helloooo! Ding Dong. Anybody home?


The Russians Colluded Massively — with Democrats
By Deroy Murdock

February 24, 2018 11:00 AM

Mueller scours Team Trump for Russian collusion as Dems marinate in it. Quote.




As always the dems accuse conservatives of crimes they are neck deep in, also like massive v***r f***d and the over 1.5 million I******s they just found or Hillary stealing the e******n from Sanders.
They are ugly, evil trolls the l*****t.

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Jan 15, 2019 17:03:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
[quote=jack sequim wa]
Blade_Runner wrote:
Helloooo! Ding Dong. Anybody home?


The Russians Colluded Massively — with Democrats
By Deroy Murdock

February 24, 2018 11:00 AM

Mueller scours Team Trump for Russian collusion as Dems marinate in it. Quote.




As always the dems accuse conservatives of crimes they are neck deep in, also like massive v***r f***d and the over 1.5 million I******s they just found or Hillary stealing the e******n from Sanders.
They are ugly, evil trolls the l*****t.
Helloooo! Ding Dong. Anybody home? br br br b T... (show quote)



That is their MO!

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Jan 15, 2019 18:51:53   #
Mikeyavelli
 
On the way to v**e for Hillary Clinton, a long black limousine pulled up and the two most beautiful blondes asked if they could give me a ride to the polls.
I said sure, and boy was I glad. They had champagne for me...and what happened next I've never experienced, but though these two gorgeous women spoke very little English, we communicated in the most basic of ways. They had only one request, v**e for Trooomp, they said, and they will take me home for more.
Even though I really wanted to v**e for Hillary, I wanted those russkie babes more, so I v**ed for Trump just like they asked.
They promised that they would come back in 2020 to see me. Can't wait!

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