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Jan 15, 2019 00:08:10   #
PJT
 
Unintended. U stupid or just so fanatical you're totally obsessed? Nobody talking about wall in middle of river or even on the exact surveyed spot of border.
I have a better but not original solution.
Lay a cobalt strip along border except for a few very narrow check points.

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Jan 15, 2019 00:21:17   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Oh come on UC, are you not bright enough to realize there are sections of the border that would not require a wall? Sheesh, you are a one trick pony!

The Democratic position is that we fund the government until February and discuss the best ways to secure the border . Trump agreed to sign it. The way I heard it, some talking heads on Fox gave him a hard time about signing a bill with no money for the wall. All he had to do was veto the bill. I doubt that Congress would have been able to override that veto. Now I wonder if he knows about that process.

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Jan 15, 2019 08:39:57   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
The Democratic position is that we fund the government until February and discuss the best ways to secure the border . Trump agreed to sign it. The way I heard it, some talking heads on Fox gave him a hard time about signing a bill with no money for the wall. All he had to do was veto the bill. I doubt that Congress would have been able to override that veto. Now I wonder if he knows about that process.


And exactly what does this have to do with your silly picture and post;
Let's see anyone build a wall down the middle of this river. One side is Mexico, one side is U.S.
I was responding to?

Oh, I see. The old tired, worn out socialist democrat ploy of deflection. Are you simply one of the mindless progressive lemmings afflicted with TDS who h**es Trump regardless of what he does?

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Jan 15, 2019 09:18:26   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
permafrost wrote:
trump had the mouth going and demanding his wall before anything else was said.

then he was told no wall money in the bill congress passed and McConnell has sitting on his desk rather then following govt procedure..

so the orange con made no attempt, only demanded his way. when not given it, he walked out..

No guts, no balls and no love for the country..


That's not quiet what happened.

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer first words upon entering the room were "No wall, no negotiations."

So President Trump without saying a word gut up and left the meeting.

I do not blame him, I would and have left negotiations under simular circumstances when attempting to acquire a 510 acre estate from the 5 heirs. They had all the saleable timber cut and still wanted the original price with the timber. The appraided value was $2,647 per acre. They didn't want to negotiate so my attorney and I left the meeting.

A few days they called my Attorney's office and lowered the price to $2,000 per acre the first of December. My attorney told them the price was way out of line.

The land is in a remote part of Southwest Mississippi next to a 477 acre plot that occasionally floods when the Mississippi River is in flood state. It has been up for sale for around 10 years with no buyers. South of the plot is bayou owned by Cajuns.

The heirs from New Orleans were anxious to sell as they were money hungry. Now my Attorney is a master of negotiations. So we set up a meeting in his New Orleans office.

Sgt. Major and three other hand picked employees as security guards, the five heirs, my Attorney and myself. My attorney told them this is the final negotiations it's a take it or leave it offer of $1,500 cash take it or leave it. Then he uncovered $750,000 in $100 bills that was covered up on his desk.

The 5 heirs were almost drooling as their eyes almost propped out of their heads. To be completed honest, it was the first time I have ever seen that much cash at one time.

I am used to having $100,000 cash on hand before but not that much. The heires almost fought over who was to be first to sign the bill of sale. My attorney paid each in cash for their signatures. I even allower my men to act as guards and take them by limousine to their bank.

My attorney got a nice bonus for his work. He saved me close to $270,000 on the deal. Thanks to the greed of the heires.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:25:01   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
Did you even read what I said about how the government is supposed to work.? Have you ever looked at the terrain of Southwestern United States and seen how impossible it is build a wall along the entire border? Don't you care that most of the population does not want a wall. We want border security which we are willing to consider but Mr Trump insists that it be a wall and nothing else. Does it make no difference to you that your dear leader does not take the advice of any experts but simply says it's my way or the highway. That is no way to govern a country. If that's the kind of country you want why don't you move to North Korea or Russia where the leader has total control over the people.
Did you even read what I said about how the govern... (show quote)


I am sure the loyal American Patriots will gladly pay for a oneway ticket to the Socialist country or C*******t country of your choice.

Bs sure the doorknob doesn't hit you in the bdhind. Doorknobs are hard to clean, so I am told.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:33:28   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Hadenough wrote:
Blownwolf,

You’re right they passed bills to open the government with little or nothing to support our border. Peeloosly and Upchuck think rows of wet toilet paper are enough to stop the invaders.
Tick Tock Tick Tock TDS boom
MAGA


Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don't want to stop their illegal criminal aliens because they will have to pay minimum wages to workers to harvest their fruit and vegetables.

This will cut into their profits, and they will have to match Social Security payments and collect income taxes. They will lose millions of illegal v**ers also.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:39:47   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
Let's see anyone build a wall down the middle of this river. One side is Mexico, one side is U.S.


Of course there us no need for a man made wall there. Nature has provided it's own wall.

Anyone with a 3rd grade education would realize that. Maybe the Dim-O-Crats don't have many spokespersons with more education than that.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:42:34   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Oh come on UC, are you not bright enough to realize there are sections of the border that would not require a wall? Sheesh, you are a one trick pony!


Agreed.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:46:38   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
old marine wrote:
Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don't want to stop their illegal criminal aliens because they will have to pay minimum wages to workers to harvest their fruit and vegetables.

This will cut into their profits, and they will have to match Social Security payments and collect income taxes. They will lose millions of illegal v**ers also.


Well said 'old jarhead''! Pelosi & Schumer could care less about governing in a responsible way. Their mission in life is to stop President Trump in each and everything he tries to do, commonly known as TDS.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:54:59   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
The Democratic position is that we fund the government until February and discuss the best ways to secure the border . Trump agreed to sign it. The way I heard it, some talking heads on Fox gave him a hard time about signing a bill with no money for the wall. All he had to do was veto the bill. I doubt that Congress would have been able to override that veto. Now I wonder if he knows about that process.


I am quite sure that President Trump knows all his legal options. He also uses misdirection tactics on the Dim-O-Crats. They never know what to expect from him.

Misdirection tactics are not new. I even used it back in 1963 -1965 in Vietnam to confuse the enemy of our real intentions. It worked everytime.

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Jan 15, 2019 09:57:40   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Jakebrake wrote:
And exactly what does this have to do with your silly picture and post;
Let's see anyone build a wall down the middle of this river. One side is Mexico, one side is U.S.
I was responding to?

Oh, I see. The old tired, worn out socialist democrat ploy of deflection. Are you simply one of the mindless progressive lemmings afflicted with TDS who h**es Trump regardless of what he does?


I agree with you on that. H**e blinds the t***h.

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Jan 15, 2019 10:01:16   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Well said 'old jarhead''! Pelosi & Schumer could care less about governing in a responsible way. Their mission in life is to stop President Trump in each and everything he tries to do, commonly known as TDS.




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Jan 15, 2019 10:08:12   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
That's not quiet what happened.

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer first words upon entering the room were "No wall, no negotiations."

So President Trump without saying a word gut up and left the meeting.

I do not blame him, I would and have left negotiations under simular circumstances when attempting to acquire a 510 acre estate from the 5 heirs. They had all the saleable timber cut and still wanted the original price with the timber. The appraided value was $2,647 per acre. They didn't want to negotiate so my attorney and I left the meeting.

A few days they called my Attorney's office and lowered the price to $2,000 per acre the first of December. My attorney told them the price was way out of line.

The land is in a remote part of Southwest Mississippi next to a 477 acre plot that occasionally floods when the Mississippi River is in flood state. It has been up for sale for around 10 years with no buyers. South of the plot is bayou owned by Cajuns.

The heirs from New Orleans were anxious to sell as they were money hungry. Now my Attorney is a master of negotiations. So we set up a meeting in his New Orleans office.

Sgt. Major and three other hand picked employees as security guards, the five heirs, my Attorney and myself. My attorney told them this is the final negotiations it's a take it or leave it offer of $1,500 cash take it or leave it. Then he uncovered $750,000 in $100 bills that was covered up on his desk.

The 5 heirs were almost drooling as their eyes almost propped out of their heads. To be completed honest, it was the first time I have ever seen that much cash at one time.

I am used to having $100,000 cash on hand before but not that much. The heires almost fought over who was to be first to sign the bill of sale. My attorney paid each in cash for their signatures. I even allower my men to act as guards and take them by limousine to their bank.

My attorney got a nice bonus for his work. He saved me close to $270,000 on the deal. Thanks to the greed of the heires.
That's not quiet what happened. br br Nancy Pelo... (show quote)



That is my idea of a tough negotiation... lot of money to sit on a desk.. impressive.. glad you got the tract..

As for the non-negotiation, I have not seen any report of who said what first, but trump did walk out and that was the end-before-it-started to negotiations..

Now we also have at least one bill sitting on McConnell desk that could put pay back in workers pockets..

Got some new tools to play with..
Got some new tools to play with.....

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Jan 15, 2019 10:09:47   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
permafrost wrote:
marine, t***h,,,,, congress passed a bill. McConnell is sitting on it. May have got a Senate v**e but has not been given to trump..

If a bill went from senate to congress, that is a different bill..


I agree the Dim-O-Crats passed a lot of bills but nothing to address the problem of wall security.

McConnell is not setting on it. The Senate Dim-O-Crats don't have the v**es to pass it.

Thanks to the Obama era 60 v**e mandate imposed to prevent Republican from stopping Dim-O-Crats bills from being v**ed down.

That rule is now working against the Dim-O-Crats and it's their own fault.

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Jan 15, 2019 10:27:38   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
I agree the Dim-O-Crats passed a lot of bills but nothing to address the problem of wall security.

McConnell is not setting on it. The Senate Dim-O-Crats don't have the v**es to pass it.

Thanks to the Obama era 60 v**e mandate imposed to prevent Republican from stopping Dim-O-Crats bills from being v**ed down.

That rule is now working against the Dim-O-Crats and it's their own fault.


trump will not negotiate... he, like a spoiled rich kid, demands his wall or nothing at all.

So all those in hardship over this can thank only trump for the problems.. Makes no difference, pay less or travel problem or no access to some federal park or facility. it is trumps doing and he will let them all hang..

I may check that out, I believe the 60 v**e requirement does not stand for this type of v**e.. only a basic majority... all that stuff you mention was when McConnell was blocking/holding all the judges Obama wanted to appoint, the was expanded to include SC justices also.. all that due to McConnell black politics..



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