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Unintended Consequences

PJT wrote:

Lone Wolf: Trump AND the Democrats shut down part... (show quote)

WRONG! Both houses passed a spending bill which Trump said he would sign. Then when he got it he changed his mind because there was no funding for the wall. At that point he should have vetoed the bill. Then congress could have overridden the veto. That's how our government is supposed to work. For two years the Republican wimps in charge did not have the balls to oppose Trump on anything. So just before Christmas he shuts down the government. People had already scheduled vacations. Pelosi is saying no because the House of Reps is in charge of expenditures which the Senate has to approve or not. The only power the president has is to sign or veto the bill. But since Trump thinks he is a king he shuts down the government instead. When he met with a group of congress people the great negotiator walked out of the meeting because he didn't immediately get his way.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Unintended Consequences wrote:

When he met with a group of congress people the great negotiator walked out of the meeting because he didn't immediately get his way.

Oh come on UC, what's the point in attending a meeting when the first thing out of Pelosi's mouth is "no wall, no negotiation"? I applaud Trump for walking out!

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

tbutkovich wrote:

What’s wrong with this picture? br br Trump gave ... (show quote)

The GOP led Senate has bills that they won't act on so don't blame Congress this is all on Trump and the Senate and the polls are showing it blue wave continues into 2020

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

jimpack123 wrote:

The GOP led Senate has bills that they won't act on so don't blame Congress this is all on Trump and the Senate and the polls are showing it blue wave continues into 2020

You have claimed to be a centrist, correct?

Your progressive posts do not indicate that.

Do you even v**e?

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

PJT wrote:

Jakebreak: you're right. Media stories rile up t... (show quote)

Trump had two fricken years to pass this when he had control of the House and the Senate so this all on Trump having a temper tantrum cause he doesn't know how to govern

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

byronglimish wrote:

You have claimed to be a centrist, correct?

Your progressive posts do not indicate that.

Do you even v**e?

I v**e every e******n from school boards to state e******ns to federal e******ns now do you voate

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

jimpack123 wrote:

I v**e every e******n from school boards to state e******ns to federal e******ns now do you voate

Clear from class queen (female by birth back then) in high school, to everything available to me now.

I v**e on the Right...i know it's hard to tell.

Unintended Consequences

Jakebrake wrote:

Oh come on UC, what's the point in attending a meeting when the first thing out of Pelosi's mouth is "no wall, no negotiation"? I applaud Trump for walking out!

I agree she could have been more diplomatic in explaining her position but he is pretty thin skinned. He gets an F from me for .negotiating sk**ls.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

byronglimish wrote:

Clear from class queen (female by birth back then) in high school, to everything available to me now.

I v**e on the Right...i know it's hard to tell.

I am 59 I try to v**e more toward the middle except for the POTUS race let me tell you why Regan got elected laid off from 3M for almost 5 yrs they broke the unions under Regan George W Bush gets in more layoffs Now Trump's in office and GM is laying people off do you see a patern here? GOP talking points are always cut Medicare cut Social security they call them entilements. they are not entilements when you pay into them

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

jimpack123 wrote:

I am 59 I try to v**e more toward the middle except for the POTUS race let me tell you why Regan got elected laid off from 3M for almost 5 yrs they broke the unions under Regan George W Bush gets in more layoffs Now Trump's in office and GM is laying people off do you see a patern here? GOP talking points are always cut Medicare cut Social security they call them entilements. they are not entilements when you pay into them

So Reagan and Bush kicked truly deserving and needy citizens off of Medicare/Medicade and Socaial Security checks were withheld?

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

byronglimish wrote:

So Reagan and Bush kicked truly deserving and needy citizens off of Medicare/Medicade and Socaial Security checks were withheld?

no I didn't sat that but it was GOP talking points can't deny that even Paul Ryan was bringing that up when he was the Vice president canidate

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

jimpack123 wrote:

no I didn't sat that but it was GOP talking points can't deny that even Paul Ryan was bringing that up when he was the Vice president canidate

"Cry Wolf" is the go to though.

Paul Ryan is useless to the nation.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Unintended Consequences wrote:

I agree she could have been more diplomatic in explaining her position but he is pretty thin skinned. He gets an F from me for .negotiating sk**ls.

"Thin skinned"? You have to be kidding, right? He's a straight talking NYC street fighter not afraid to get in the gutter and wrestle with the socialist democrats. When Pelosi made that ignorant opening statement, Trump walked refusing to waste his time. Why bother when all Pelosi & Schumer would do is obstruct?

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

Jakebrake wrote:

"Thin skinned"? You have to be kidding, right? He's a straight talking NYC street fighter not afraid to get in the gutter and wrestle with the socialist democrats. When Pelosi made that ignorant opening statement, Trump walked refusing to waste his time. Why bother when all Pelosi & Schumer would do is obstruct?

OBstruct now that's the pot calling the kettle black LOL

Unintended Consequences

Trump is rude and crude. He is always angry at someone. He addresses his critics by tweeting nasty replies. He sends his chief of staff to fire people or announces it on twitter.
What he should have done is veto the bill that both houses had v**ed on and then call the meeting to discuss border security, including but not limited to a wall. Shutting down the government is the act of a cowardly dictator. If he declares a national emergency that is another dictatorial act Do you really want a government shutdown every time Congress disagrees with him?