JoyV

The 1.3 billion was specified to exclude the wall. It was for the normal border security which last year cost over $22 billion.

Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Funding by Year: FYs 2010 -2019
($ billions)
2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 PB2018 PB2019
CBP $10.1 $9.6 $10.2 $10.3 $10.6 $10.9 $11.2 $12.1 $13.9** $14.2
ICE $5.4 $5.5 $5.5 $5.4 $5.3 $6.0 $5.8 $6.4 $7.6 $8.3
EOIR $0.3 $0.3 $0.3 $0.3 $0.3 $0.3 $0.4 $0.4 $0.5 $0.6
Total $15.8 $15.4 $16.0 $16.0 $16.2 $17.2 $17.4 $18.9 $22.0 $23.1
** With the caps deal, the Administration is seeking an additional $15.6B above the FY 2018 Budget level
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FY19-Budget-Fact-Sheet_Border-Security.pdf

JoyV

When you give up 3 limbs for your country and fellow Americans without complaint; then you can at least apply your character assassination as an equal. His actions, and lack of whiny complaining are not the behavior of a greedy c***t!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

What a snob.

JoyV

If you want to look at Rasmussen reports and polls, why not go to the Rasmussen Reports site instead of the Hill? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

Here is a poll from their homepage on the wall with very different results. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2019/v**ers_see_border_wall_as_effective_but_no_emergency

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Granted, your second link is to a poll that is about six months newer than the one I posted. I wasn't aware of your first link, nor did I find your second in my search. However, though my first link was provided by The Hill, the poll originated from Rasmussen. I notice no comment from you on the highly respected Pew Research's poll. My links came from searching under polls for/against the border wall. I will add that the following excerpt from your second link is far cry from a ringing endorsement for a border wall. Also, it does not address as to whether or not the public is for or against its being built.

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 52% of Likely U.S. V**ers believe the construction of a wall is likely to slow or stop i*****l i*********n across the U.S.-Mexico border, with 36% who say it’s Very Likely to work. Forty-five percent (45%) say a border wall is unlikely to slow or stop i*****l i*********n, including 27% who say it’s Not At All Likely to do so."

It is easy to concede that, with enough searching, one can find numerous conflicting polls. In large part, they can vary depending upon the period of time in which they were taken, or who took them.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Moose Drool, huh

A few years ago, The Sgt. Major & I traveled to the northern coast of Minnesota, from Duluth to Grand Portage and beyond into Canada. We ate at a small café, 'The Lemon Wolf', just off the shore of Lake Superior. Along with ordering my first taste of Walleye, I noticed the beer list included names of strange brews unbeknownst to me...one by the name of 'Moose Drool.' Even though I am not a drinker...intrigued by the name...I felt compelled to try it. As I recall, it had a taste similar to Texas' own Shiner Bock.

I brought the empty bottle home with me as a souvenir. It still sits in my den. If I am not mistaken, it is brewed in Montana...is it not

JoyV

And the demographics of the people included in the poll. For instance, many polls have heavy participation by urban residents, moderate participation by suburban residents, and very little participation by rural residents. If the ones doing the poll have political, religious, or ethnic biases; the demographics will often reflect that and the results will be even more skewed. Another very common practice by biased poll makers is to use questions which are worded in such a way that you have no fair options. So I put no faith in poll results whether they support or oppose my position.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I do not disagree any of what you write here. Yet, it was your question which drew my response:

JoyV wrote: "Where does the 70% figure come from? Unless it is from a poll taken by a left wing news site of their readers; I cannot fathom where that figure came from. I believe more Americans are in favor of the wall."

Neither Pew Research nor Rasmussen are considered "left-wing news sites."

kemmer

You'd be mistaken.

kemmer

For 2 years Rasmussen has placed Trump's approval rating 20-30 points higher than any other poll. This demonstrates the reliability of Rasmussen. It's a blatant pro-Trump organization.

kemmer

Or maybe you could learn to spell?

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Ah, the spelling police have arrived...

JoyV

According to how some of the questions are worded in polls publicised by Pew Research, I would say they lean left but not far left. They at least make an attempt to be unbiased. Rasmussen I agree is not left leaning.

Thanks for answering where the 70% figure came from. I do not believe it is accurate, but that is because I do not believe polls are accurate most of the time. So never rely on them. The closest thing which can tell what the majority of people want is v****g. Even that is not certain due to not everyone v****g, fraud, and errors. Take my state's midterm e******n. After the b****ts had been counted, a new rule was instituted which invalidate mail in b****ts from all but three counties. Those three being urban counties. Some rural counties have more than 90% of their b****ts returned as mail in b****ts. Martha McSalley won the Senate seat by a large margin until the mail in b****ts were excluded giving Sinema the win.

JoyV

Whether I am right or wrong is a matter of opinion. Neither of us can prove it. Polls vary widely on their results so people choose which they want to believe. You'll note I did not claim that most Americans want the wall. I said I BELIEVE most Americans want the wall. It is a statement of opinion, not a statement of fact.

JoyV

I used Rasmussen because it was one of the sites quoted in the post I was responding to. The figure I was responding to was from an earlier report. My response was from a more recent report. Both were from Rasmussen.