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Jan 12, 2019 15:23:28   #
Nickolai
 
BigMike wrote:
The problem is central banking is designed to fail. Go to the root and forget the branches. It's a waste of time.






The wall street investment banks are not part of the central banking system neither was the sub prime mortgage industry. But they are now since the repeal of Glass Stegall Act which had built a firewall between commercial banks, investment banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. The contribution cause of the great depression of the 1930's

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Jan 12, 2019 15:23:44   #
bylm1-Bernie (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/11/trump-winning-shutdown.html


Millions of people and their families are suffering because they aren’t getting paid during the government shutdown, but Trump refuses to open government because he thinks that he is winning.
Politico reported:
On the 20th day of the shutdown, the GOP group tried to jump start bipartisan talks before Trump declares a national emergency to get his wall. But the president rejected their idea to allow congressional committees to sort out his border wall request while the government reopened, deeming the idea likely to leave him with nothing to show for the shutdown.

Vice President Mike Pence and acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney had been consulting with senators about the matter on Thursday. Pence and Mulvaney took the idea to the president, who shot it down, according to multiple people directly involved in the talks. While the congressional committees could still take up Trump’s border wall plan, the president opposes the idea of opening the government before serious wall negotiations have begun, the people said. He told Senate Republicans he believes he is winning the fight and will not sign any stopgap bills at this point.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/11/trump-winn... (show quote)



I can tell you how this problem could be solved. And quickly. Care to take a guess?

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Jan 12, 2019 15:27:16   #
bylm1-Bernie (a regular here)
 
Buzzer wrote:
Mr. Trump's attempts to disrupt the operation of our federal government for perceived personal gain are in fact direct violations of his oath of office. This failure to administer the proper continuing operation of the government is indeed dereliction of duty --- an impeachable offense ---


You forgot to add the word (sarcasm) to your complaint.

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Jan 12, 2019 15:29:56   #
Bad Bob
 
amadjuster wrote:
My Kimber is better.


What was your return last year? And from what funds?

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Jan 12, 2019 15:34:09   #
Bad Bob
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I can tell you how this problem could be solved. And quickly. Care to take a guess?


Indict trump for treason?

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Jan 12, 2019 15:35:38   #
Nickolai
 
padremike wrote:
True to the Progressive philosophy you changed the blame for the disasters they always cause. FYI the congress don't need an imaginary umbrella because they're an "equal" branch. You don't know how your government functions and you just tried another fix the blame trick on someone else. The Bush administration warned the democrats several times that they were heading for a housing and market disaster. More interested in giving away the country to garner votes, they disregarded the warnings. You think Obama saved America by doubling the national debt? He was purposely trying to break the bank. Why don't you search out and find out his reason.
True to the Progressive philosophy you changed the... (show quote)





https://youtu.be/WJaW32ZTyKE

One of the leading contributors to the financial crises in 2008. If Bush warned anybody he should have warned Allan Greenspan that his ideology was flawed and was going to cause millions of Americans to loose their homes jobs, savings, and pensions

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Jan 12, 2019 15:38:17   #
jack sequim wa (a regular here)
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Border Security yes...the Wall, no! Ask the people like my neighbors in McAllen, Texas what they think of the Wall and they will laugh in your face. It's Trump who is playing with people's lives with this unconscionable shutdown! 800,000 Federal workers, most living paycheck to paycheck, will tell you in no uncertain terms what THEY think of the shutdown, and they are not, contrary to what President Trump is putting out there, in support. The "threat" of illegal drugs coming over the border via illegal means is pure, unmitigated bullshit...in point of fact, the vast majority of illegal drugs come across the border at legal entrances. The denial of amnesty for those escaping unfathomable terror is what is un-American. Border security is entirely feasible without "the Wall" via modern technology. And I'm assuming that you aren't one of the many property owners whose land is subject to whatever seizure the government deems "necessary".
Border Security yes...the Wall, no! Ask the peopl... (show quote)




Their opinion of laughing at a wall doesn't change facts of the dozens of nations with walls that keep out 99% invaders. But then some have or had a cross and shoot on site deterrent also. Israel kept out over 99% terrorists and facts prove that over the last decade a few thousand terrorists entered our country by way of southern border.
Opinions or worthless in the face of hard facts.
I see those opposing the wall using more emotions than logic in supporting a political ideology and willfully ignoring the data of cost to tax payers in short and long term entitlements, medical, prisons, courts, man power patrolling open border over one hundred billion per year that could be reduced by 80% forcing immigrants to use legal paths of entry and better protect us from the criminal aspect, terrorist, drug and sex traffic.

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Jan 12, 2019 15:39:38   #
roy
 
Nickolai wrote:
https://youtu.be/WJaW32ZTyKE

One of the leading contributors to the financial crises in 2008. If Bush warned anybody he should have warned Allan Greenspan that his ideology was flawed and was going to cause millions of Americans to loose their homes jobs, savings, and pensions


I agree,the only thing its fixing to happen again soon.

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Jan 12, 2019 15:39:43   #
BigMike (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
The wall street investment banks are not part of the central banking system neither was the sub prime mortgage industry. But they are now since the repeal of Glass Stegall Act which had built a firewall between commercial banks, investment banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. The contribution cause of the great depression of the 1930's


Fiat currency is the root and all the other problems, one of which you properly point out, are distractions from what we want to notice...namely, if the central banks are in trouble because everyone is about as leveraged as they can be, what will the elite families do since Trump has delayed their little world war...notice I said delayed. This still has to happen if they wish to save their system because that's how they designed it way back when.

We have some huge adjustments coming. I'd get some silver.

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Jan 12, 2019 15:41:46   #
Nickolai
 
Seth wrote:
No, Pelosi and Schumer have been making a mockery of America and our political system for a lot longer than Trump's been president, and they can just as easily approve funding for the wall as Trump can sign their budget.

The fact that you could care less about innocent Americans being raped, robbed and murdered says more about you than what your ilk says about the president.

See how you feel if you or a loved one has a tragic experience at the hands of one or more of these criminal aliens.

As far as those federal employees are concerned, of course most of them are Democrats; it's the Democrats who use our hard earned tax dollars to compensate these career civil "servants" double, in pay & benefits, what much harder working people in the private sector with the same jobs earn.

Your ilk believes that everybody's money is the government's to take away and spend at their leisure, and the Democrats waste or simply give away so much of OUR money anyway that the Pelosi/Schumer story about the wall being a "waste of money" rings hollow even as it emerges from the corrupt, lying maws in their lower faces.
No, Pelosi and Schumer have been making a mockery ... (show quote)






Trump is holding government workers hostage and you cannot negotiate with hostage takers . They have to by necessity be defeated no matter what

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Jan 12, 2019 15:58:11   #
bylm1-Bernie (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Indict trump for treason?


Wrong. Care to try again?

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Jan 12, 2019 16:00:49   #
Seth (a regular here)
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Their opinion of laughing at a wall doesn't change facts of the dozens of nations with walls that keep out 99% invaders. But then some have or had a cross and shoot on site deterrent also. Israel kept out over 99% terrorists and facts prove that over the last decade a few thousand terrorists entered our country by way of southern border.
Opinions or worthless in the face of hard facts.
I see those opposing the wall using more emotions than logic in supporting a political ideology and willfully ignoring the data of cost to tax payers in short and long term entitlements, medical, prisons, courts, man power patrolling open border over one hundred billion per year that could be reduced by 80% forcing immigrants to use legal paths of entry and better protect us from the criminal aspect, terrorist, drug and sex traffic.
Their opinion of laughing at a wall doesn't change... (show quote)


Excellent summation.

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Jan 12, 2019 16:07:48   #
Bad Bob
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Wrong. Care to try again?


Money laundering for Russians?

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Jan 12, 2019 16:15:27   #
Seth (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Trump is holding government workers hostage and you cannot negotiate with hostage takers . They have to by necessity be defeated no matter what


Why is Trump the one holding anything? He is simply doing what he said he was going to do, which is well within the authority of any president, D, R or I: that is refuse to sign a budget he does not believe to be in the best interests of the American people, whom he is there to serve.

Pelosi and Schumer were warned going in that he would not sign it if it skimped on what he and most Americans believe is necessary spending to secure our southern -- sovereign -- border.

Pelosi and Schumer, however, are not serving the American people, they are serving their own narrow partisan political interests, which seem to function along the same wavelengths as those shared by corrupt third world shithole dictators.

It's no wonder that so many Democrat politicians leave office exponentially wealthier than they were when they first entered politics.

Sure, Nikoli Nikaolaevitch, continue following their star and see what life becomes in America if they ever take over.

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Jan 12, 2019 16:16:01   #
bylm1-Bernie (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Money laundering for Russians?


No. Brain transplant for Schumer and Pelosi. That will do it.

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