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Jan 11, 2019 08:52:52   #
cbpat1
 
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the challenges of some of the issues we have facing us today. Would you be trying to destroy the president, and have him removed from office, or would you try to work with him, and hope to get good things done for the country? Would you be in favor of the wall, or would you fight him tooth and nail to keep the wall from becoming a reality? Do you think the wall is immoral? Would you be in favor of lower taxes, both individual and corporate, or would you be in favor of raising corporate taxes and raise individual tax rates on wealthy, so they pay their ”fair share”.

Just curious. I think I know where most of you stand, but, want to see how widely your views all very. Sometimes when I read different post, it’s like people’s ideas very so much, I wonder sometimes if they are even from the same country.

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Jan 11, 2019 09:00:04   #
Bcon
 
Those questions never come up to the Anti Trumpers. No need to think, just oppose.

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Jan 11, 2019 09:16:07   #
Airforceone
 
cbpat1 wrote:
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the challenges of some of the issues we have facing us today. Would you be trying to destroy the president, and have him removed from office, or would you try to work with him, and hope to get good things done for the country? Would you be in favor of the wall, or would you fight him tooth and nail to keep the wall from becoming a reality? Do you think the wall is immoral? Would you be in favor of lower taxes, both individual and corporate, or would you be in favor of raising corporate taxes and raise individual tax rates on wealthy, so they pay their ”fair share”.

Just curious. I think I know where most of you stand, but, want to see how widely your views all very. Sometimes when I read different post, it’s like people’s ideas very so much, I wonder sometimes if they are even from the same country.
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the ... (show quote)


Let say yes let’s work with the president and look at the events over the last 5 weeks.

The Republican lead congress worked with Trump to get a clean CR and the house and senate made very few amendments then congress v**ed on a clean CR and almost received 100% when they v**ed on a CR that was coordinated with Trump.

Then Trump got creamed by a Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and Trump refused to sign the CR without $5.8 billion for a wall that Mexico was suppose to pay for.

Nobody tried to destroy him over this issue they systematically passed a clean CR and all parties agreed. Then Trump reneged on the deal.

He manufactured this crisis all on his own. Not to mention he had 2 years 100% control over congress he could have gotten his $5 billion in 24 hours. Now we have a government shutdown and Trump uses facts and figures that are 100% false.

He is saying now That he never said Mexico would pay for the wall. Now he is going to use his power of creating a National Security issue and reallocate disaster relief money to pay for a 15th century technology in the 21st century. Nobody is destroying Trump he is doing it to himself.

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Jan 11, 2019 09:22:21   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
cbpat1 wrote:
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the challenges of some of the issues we have facing us today. Would you be trying to destroy the president, and have him removed from office, or would you try to work with him, and hope to get good things done for the country? Would you be in favor of the wall, or would you fight him tooth and nail to keep the wall from becoming a reality? Do you think the wall is immoral? Would you be in favor of lower taxes, both individual and corporate, or would you be in favor of raising corporate taxes and raise individual tax rates on wealthy, so they pay their ”fair share”.

Just curious. I think I know where most of you stand, but, want to see how widely your views all very. Sometimes when I read different post, it’s like people’s ideas very so much, I wonder sometimes if they are even from the same country.
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the ... (show quote)




With the l*****ts reviving the Confederate sentiment in this nation, we're too far apart for negotiating comprehensive solutions for meaningful results. The absurdity of Pelosi and Schumer opposing the 5.6 billion on the border wall and security is evidence of their "destroy President Trump at any cost to the nation"..

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Jan 11, 2019 09:51:04   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I am in charge. I am and I am known as as one of the people. ron vrooman the common man, private; Ronald Charles Vrooman in cursive on my birth certificate and as trustee to the Private Membership Association RONALD CHARLES VROOMAN, THE STRAW MAN; also known as Ronald Charles Vrooman Private Attorney Generals by the United States Congress 42 U.S.C.1988 and18 U.S.C.1510 and 18 U.S.C. 1512 and to be known as “One of the People” also “Qualified Criminal Investigator” and “Federal Witness” and by unrebutted affidavit. Status identified and unrebutted. Others to be named and added later. US Navy veteran. The flesh blood and soul, body-mind-spirit, a man, on Oregon, an Oregonian, a Continuous Traveler, a non-US citizen, born August 14, 1938 Reno, Nevada, with two ancestors, a father and son direct blood-line, that fought for New York in our Revolution. My mother’s father born Stockwell-Gonzalez 1876 New Mexico. General Delivery Beaverton, Oregon [97005] 503 641 8375 ronvrooman38@gmail.com

I am sovereign with no subjects or rulers and as many peers as can stand and deliver.

cbpat1 wrote:
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the challenges of some of the issues we have facing us today. Would you be trying to destroy the president, and have him removed from office, or would you try to work with him, and hope to get good things done for the country? Would you be in favor of the wall, or would you fight him tooth and nail to keep the wall from becoming a reality? Do you think the wall is immoral? Would you be in favor of lower taxes, both individual and corporate, or would you be in favor of raising corporate taxes and raise individual tax rates on wealthy, so they pay their ”fair share”.

Just curious. I think I know where most of you stand, but, want to see how widely your views all very. Sometimes when I read different post, it’s like people’s ideas very so much, I wonder sometimes if they are even from the same country.
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the ... (show quote)

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Jan 11, 2019 09:57:04   #
vernon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Let say yes let’s work with the president and look at the events over the last 5 weeks.

The Republican lead congress worked with Trump to get a clean CR and the house and senate made very few amendments then congress v**ed on a clean CR and almost received 100% when they v**ed on a CR that was coordinated with Trump.

Then Trump got creamed by a Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and Trump refused to sign the CR without $5.8 billion for a wall that Mexico was suppose to pay for.

Nobody tried to destroy him over this issue they systematically passed a clean CR and all parties agreed. Then Trump reneged on the deal.

He manufactured this crisis all on his own. Not to mention he had 2 years 100% control over congress he could have gotten his $5 billion in 24 hours. Now we have a government shutdown and Trump uses facts and figures that are 100% false.

He is saying now That he never said Mexico would pay for the wall. Now he is going to use his power of creating a National Security issue and reallocate disaster relief money to pay for a 15th century technology in the 21st century. Nobody is destroying Trump he is doing it to himself.
Let say yes let’s work with the president and look... (show quote)


The continuing resolution is a violation of fed law. Congress is charged with making a budget and presenting it to the president. The president is to sign it up or down. Now he is going to force congress to do their job and write a budget.
If the congress had the v**es they could pass anything and override the president veto. When you say
the republicans had both houses of congress you twist the t***h because the senate has only 52 republican senators and you need 60 v**es to pass legslation in the senate.this just proves your ignorance on how the different branches work. All this crap about Rush and Laura making him change his mind is just plain msnbc bulls**t,of course people like you fall for it everytime . When the i***ts took over the house they were set to block all of Trumps initiatives and do all the damage they can to our country and republic along with the citizens. They don't care about anything but their power and they will destroy this country to regain it.Now if your dumb enough to v**e for these anti-American tratiors thats your problem.
He never said how they were going to pay and he told you they were going to pay and now you know how he is going to make them pay.He is recovering money through nafta the crap that clinton created,and helped destroy 2 million jobs.

Now what have demoRATS done for good jobs .

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Jan 11, 2019 10:03:47   #
cbpat1
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I am in charge. I am and I am known as as one of the people. ron vrooman the common man, private; Ronald Charles Vrooman in cursive on my birth certificate and as trustee to the Private Membership Association RONALD CHARLES VROOMAN, THE STRAW MAN; also known as Ronald Charles Vrooman Private Attorney Generals by the United States Congress 42 U.S.C.1988 and18 U.S.C.1510 and 18 U.S.C. 1512 and to be known as “One of the People” also “Qualified Criminal Investigator” and “Federal Witness” and by unrebutted affidavit. Status identified and unrebutted. Others to be named and added later. US Navy veteran. The flesh blood and soul, body-mind-spirit, a man, on Oregon, an Oregonian, a Continuous Traveler, a non-US citizen, born August 14, 1938 Reno, Nevada, with two ancestors, a father and son direct blood-line, that fought for New York in our Revolution. My mother’s father born Stockwell-Gonzalez 1876 New Mexico. General Delivery Beaverton, Oregon [97005] 503 641 8375 ronvrooman38@gmail.com

I am sovereign with no subjects or rulers and as many peers as can stand and deliver.
I am in charge. I am and I am known as as one of t... (show quote)



Okey dokee then

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Jan 11, 2019 10:05:07   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
vernon wrote:
The continuing resolution is a violation of fed law. Congress is charged with making a budget and presenting it to the president. The president is to sign it up or down. Now he is going to force congress to do their job and write a budget.
If the congress had the v**es they could pass anything and override the president veto. When you say
the republicans had both houses of congress you twist the t***h because the senate has only 52 republican senators and you need 60 v**es to pass legslation in the senate.this just proves your ignorance on how the different branches work. All this crap about Rush and Laura making him change his mind is just plain msnbc bulls**t,of course people like you fall for it everytime . When the i***ts took over the house they were set to block all of Trumps initiatives and do all the damage they can to our country and republic along with the citizens. They don't care about anything but their power and they will destroy this country to regain it.Now if your dumb enough to v**e for these anti-American tratiors thats your problem.
The continuing resolution is a violation of fed la... (show quote)

Actually, with the nuclear option in play, you don't need 60 v**es in the Senate. The problem is that Mitch (The Spineless B***h) McConnell doesn't want to use it. He's afraid the Democrats will start using it when they get a majority, which will happen sooner or later. Newsflash, Mitchey Boy; The Democrats have ALREADY used it.
You have to realize how many RINOs are in the pocket of the US Chamber of Commerce. This outfit never saw an amnesty they didn't like. Many of these RINOs depend on donations from the Chamber to finance their ree******ns and they are afraid someone else's snout might occupy their place at the taxpayer trough.

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Jan 11, 2019 10:36:36   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
cbpat1 wrote:
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the challenges of some of the issues we have facing us today. Would you be trying to destroy the president, and have him removed from office, or would you try to work with him, and hope to get good things done for the country? Would you be in favor of the wall, or would you fight him tooth and nail to keep the wall from becoming a reality? Do you think the wall is immoral? Would you be in favor of lower taxes, both individual and corporate, or would you be in favor of raising corporate taxes and raise individual tax rates on wealthy, so they pay their ”fair share”.

Just curious. I think I know where most of you stand, but, want to see how widely your views all very. Sometimes when I read different post, it’s like people’s ideas very so much, I wonder sometimes if they are even from the same country.
If it were up to you, how would you deal with the ... (show quote)
I am opposite of most OPP members. I p***e myself in thinking for myself and not being like every body else just so people will like me. There is so much I would do but really who cares. End the shutdown-- people are suffering. End the trade war --people are suffering---Reform our immigration system- people are suffering. Tell the t***h in all matters no matter how uncomfortable--people are being lead astray.--- Put people first in all things we do. My pet peeve end homelessnes- Give them all lobotomies and make them tape drywall- I h**e that job..

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Jan 11, 2019 12:15:23   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
vernon wrote:
The continuing resolution is a violation of fed law. Congress is charged with making a budget and presenting it to the president. The president is to sign it up or down. Now he is going to force congress to do their job and write a budget.
If the congress had the v**es they could pass anything and override the president veto. When you say
the republicans had both houses of congress you twist the t***h because the senate has only 52 republican senators and you need 60 v**es to pass legslation in the senate.this just proves your ignorance on how the different branches work. All this crap about Rush and Laura making him change his mind is just plain msnbc bulls**t,of course people like you fall for it everytime . When the i***ts took over the house they were set to block all of Trumps initiatives and do all the damage they can to our country and republic along with the citizens. They don't care about anything but their power and they will destroy this country to regain it.Now if your dumb enough to v**e for these anti-American tratiors thats your problem.
He never said how they were going to pay and he told you they were going to pay and now you know how he is going to make them pay.He is recovering money through nafta the crap that clinton created,and helped destroy 2 million jobs.

Now what have demoRATS done for good jobs .
The continuing resolution is a violation of fed la... (show quote)



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Jan 11, 2019 12:18:16   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Okey dokee then


wwg1wga

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Jan 11, 2019 20:58:51   #
Bcon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Let say yes let’s work with the president and look at the events over the last 5 weeks.

The Republican lead congress worked with Trump to get a clean CR and the house and senate made very few amendments then congress v**ed on a clean CR and almost received 100% when they v**ed on a CR that was coordinated with Trump.

Then Trump got creamed by a Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and Trump refused to sign the CR without $5.8 billion for a wall that Mexico was suppose to pay for.

Nobody tried to destroy him over this issue they systematically passed a clean CR and all parties agreed. Then Trump reneged on the deal.

He manufactured this crisis all on his own. Not to mention he had 2 years 100% control over congress he could have gotten his $5 billion in 24 hours. Now we have a government shutdown and Trump uses facts and figures that are 100% false.

He is saying now That he never said Mexico would pay for the wall. Now he is going to use his power of creating a National Security issue and reallocate disaster relief money to pay for a 15th century technology in the 21st century. Nobody is destroying Trump he is doing it to himself.
Let say yes let’s work with the president and look... (show quote)


Thousands coming over the border every month is only a manufactured crisis to you
liberals who don’t care about the thousands of pounds of drugs and hundreds of
Sex trafficked children , and the hundreds of MS13 gang members, plus the untold number of crimes including murder. You have to be a heartless soul to think this is manufactured. You svoid the t***h as much as Satan.

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Jan 11, 2019 21:01:05   #
Bcon
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I am in charge. I am and I am known as as one of the people. ron vrooman the common man, private; Ronald Charles Vrooman in cursive on my birth certificate and as trustee to the Private Membership Association RONALD CHARLES VROOMAN, THE STRAW MAN; also known as Ronald Charles Vrooman Private Attorney Generals by the United States Congress 42 U.S.C.1988 and18 U.S.C.1510 and 18 U.S.C. 1512 and to be known as “One of the People” also “Qualified Criminal Investigator” and “Federal Witness” and by unrebutted affidavit. Status identified and unrebutted. Others to be named and added later. US Navy veteran. The flesh blood and soul, body-mind-spirit, a man, on Oregon, an Oregonian, a Continuous Traveler, a non-US citizen, born August 14, 1938 Reno, Nevada, with two ancestors, a father and son direct blood-line, that fought for New York in our Revolution. My mother’s father born Stockwell-Gonzalez 1876 New Mexico. General Delivery Beaverton, Oregon [97005] 503 641 8375 ronvrooman38@gmail.com

I am sovereign with no subjects or rulers and as many peers as can stand and deliver.
I am in charge. I am and I am known as as one of t... (show quote)

I don’t know. It sounds to me like you are a f—-ink lunatic.

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Jan 11, 2019 22:14:06   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Have you ever comprehended the founding documents. Or even read them? Start with the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, Then The United States of America's Constitution circa 1819 thru 1859 and in my case Oregon's original Constitution circa 1859.

I am the beneficiary in the contract between the several states and The United States of America know as the Constitution circa 1819 thru 1859.

I am the sovereign the whole operation was created for. My statement earlier is filed into several federal courts of record and a municipal court of record without rebuttal and filed into the public record without rebuttal.

Have you declared your status or are you still a US citizen??? It is for sure you are ignorant.

Bcon wrote:
I don’t know. It sounds to me like you are a f—-ink lunatic.

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Jan 12, 2019 17:26:57   #
maryjane
 
Airforceone wrote:
Let say yes let’s work with the president and look at the events over the last 5 weeks.

The Republican lead congress worked with Trump to get a clean CR and the house and senate made very few amendments then congress v**ed on a clean CR and almost received 100% when they v**ed on a CR that was coordinated with Trump.

Then Trump got creamed by a Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and Trump refused to sign the CR without $5.8 billion for a wall that Mexico was suppose to pay for.

Nobody tried to destroy him over this issue they systematically passed a clean CR and all parties agreed. Then Trump reneged on the deal.

He manufactured this crisis all on his own. Not to mention he had 2 years 100% control over congress he could have gotten his $5 billion in 24 hours. Now we have a government shutdown and Trump uses facts and figures that are 100% false.

He is saying now That he never said Mexico would pay for the wall. Now he is going to use his power of creating a National Security issue and reallocate disaster relief money to pay for a 15th century technology in the 21st century. Nobody is destroying Trump he is doing it to himself.
Let say yes let’s work with the president and look... (show quote)


He had 100% control over congress??? Really?? I must have been in a coma during that time.

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