Now you're against facts because now you think they can't be proven. That's quite amazing, you've rationalized yourself well into justifying your unbendable beliefs. Facts can be proven that's why they're facts, now anyone can refuse to believe them, but that doesn't mean they are uncredible even though they appear unvalidated to the disbeliever. Man's impact on the environment is a perfect example, many of Trumps lies...proven by actual actions and quotes, except not believed to the nonbeliever.

Trump riding on the momentum of Obama's initiations. We are now beginning to see the fruition of Trump's efforts. Though we have already seen how his tax breaks have only benefited the wealthy reinvesting back into themselves and hardly spreading their new gains to lower level employees,(so much fo tricle down economics once again) we will begin to see the effects to the environment, and
see how defunding the ACA will be throwing the sick and elderly under the bus. All his actions are going to get real personal, real soon.

From the latest poll I saw, the US has taken a dive, even after the biggest buying season, how many have gotten laid off now? What's happened with Apple, Chevy, farmers, Kmart, Walmart, Sears, just to name a few?

Trump riding on the momentum of Obama's initiations. We are now beginning to see the fruition of Trump's efforts. Though we have already seen how his tax breaks have only benefited the wealthy reinvesting back into themselves and hardly spreading their new gains to lower level employees,(so much fo tricle down economics once again) we will begin to see the effects to the environment, and
see how defunding the ACA will be throwing the sick and elderly under the bus. All his actions are going to get real personal, real soon.

From the latest poll I saw, the US has taken a dive, even after the biggest buying season, how many have gotten laid off now? What's happened with Apple, Chevy, farmers, Kmart, Walmart, Sears, just to name a few?

Facts??? We doan' need no stinkin' facts!!! Seriously, I'm about s**k of facts. I have researched high and low to find facts that I believe to be accurate, meaning I also research who is doing the publishing, and who is doing the writing. And I have found those facts and presented them here on OPP in debates and what do I get? that's BS. We, if it IS BS, show me something to prove it(facts). What are facts? Are facts true? When your facts disagree with my facts, how do we resolve whose facts are correct. How do you find facts these days? If you just look far enough to find what you want to see, then you ain't lookin' hard enough. If you trust ANY media, you still need to look deeper...see who wrote the article. What I like to find in facts is when say, the Washington Post or the New York Times ( both KNOWN to be anti Trump) prints an article that says Trump did something, anything ...right! Or that Trump was right months after making a claim or an accusation. THAT'S when I would believe something they said about Trump. CNN and the others that Trump has labeled as f**e news have put out so many unseen, unvalidated, and outright false stories on Trump, until I don't pay them any mind, unless Trump has something to say about a story. THEN I watch to see what happens. How can you be sure that your facts are better than my facts. How can you trust a fact checker when said checker shows a political bias?What about when someone on the left side says Trump is an orange buffoon? or a drug addict? Yes, people on the right side do it too ( I did it for a short while, then decided to act maturely). I keep saying this over and over, the rhetoric of division is used pretty much equally by both sides. I don't like facts anymore. Facts make you mad when other people don't accept them. Facts hurt embarrass you when somebody is able to prove your facts wrong. Facts can insult you when somebody puts one out there that just smacks you in the face. No, I am losing my desire to have facts, cause' you know what? If you facts are right or wrong, the other side willnot believe you OR your facts. Facts? We doan need no stinkin' facts!!!