Can you imagine someone today looking for a LEADER to execute a Doolittle Raid?
Jan 9, 2019 14:07:05 #
I wouldn't last 2 weeks in today's Navy
Rules were made to be broken, bars were built to be drained every night and refilled for the next day
Where Have All The Real Combat Pilots Gone?
Beginning with McNamara the powers that be decided to run the Air Force like an 8 to 5 business. Warrior leaders of General LeMay's stature were no longer to be found. The fundamental job of the military, "k**l people and break things", became seriously hampered by "rules of engagement" whose guiding logic is political, not successful combat. I agree with the author. If and when the US military is defeated, it will be running the best Day Care centers in the world.
We used to go to the Officers Club or NCO Club Stag Bar on Friday afternoons to drink, smoke and swap lies with our comrades. Think about this when you read the rest of the letter below.
What happened to our Air Force/Marines/Army/Navy (our Military)?
Drinking then became frowned on. Smoking caused cancer and could "harm you." Stag bars became seen as 'sexist'. Gradually, our men quit patronizing their clubs because what happened in the club became fodder for a performance report. It was the same thing at the Airman's Club and the NCO and/or Top 3 clubs. Now we don't have separate clubs for the ranks. (What ever happened to familiarity breeds contempt?)
Instead, we have something called All Ranks Clubs or community clubs. They're open to men and women of all ranks from airman basic to general officer. Still, no one is there. Gee, I wonder why. The latest brilliant thought out of Washington is that the operators ("pilots?") flying remotely piloted aircraft in combat areas from their plush desk at duty stations in Nevada or Arizona should draw the same combat pay as those real-world pilots actually on board a plane in a hostile environment.
More politically correct logic?
They say that RPV operators are subject to the same stress levels as the combat pilot actually flying in combat. ----- REALLY? you're bull-shi&&ing me?
Now that I've primed you a little, read on.
There are many who will agree with these sentiments, but they apply to more than just fighter pilots. Unfortunately, the ones with the guts to speak up or push for what they believe in are beaten down by the "system."
Where have all the real combat pilots gone?
Good Question.
Here is a rant from a retired fighter pilot that is worth reading:
It is rumored that our current Secretary of Defense recently asked the question, "Where are all the dynamic leaders like the ones of the past?" I can only assume, if that is true, that he was referring to Robin Olds, Jimmy Doolittle, Patton, Ike, Boyington, Nimitz, etc.?
Well, I've got the answer:
They were fired before they made major!
Our nation doesn't want those kinds of leaders anymore. Squadron commanders don't run squadrons and wing commanders don't run wings. They are managed by higher-ranking dildos with other esoteric goals in mind.
Can you imagine someone today looking for a LEADER to execute that Doolittle Raid and suggesting that it be given to a dare-devil boozer - his only attributes: He had the respect of his men, an awesome ability to fly, and the organizational sk**ls to put it all together?
If someone told me there was a chance in hell of selecting that man today, I would tell them they were either a liar or dumber than sh&&.
I find it ironic that the Air Force put Brigadier General Robin Olds on the cover of the company rag one month.
While it made me extremely proud to see his face, he wouldn't make it across any base in America (or overseas) without ten enlisted folks telling him to zip up his flight suit, get rid of the cigarette, and shave his mustache off.
I have a feeling that his response would be predictable and for that crime, he would probably get a trip home and Article 15. We have lost the war on rugged individualism and that, unfortunately, is what real pilots want to follow; not because they have to but because they respect leaders of that ilk. We've all run across that leader that made us proud to follow him because you wanted to be like him and make a difference. The individual who you would d**g your testicles through glass for rather than disappoint him.
We better wake the hell up! We're asking our young men and women to go to really shi&&y places; some with unbearable climates, never have a drink, have little or no contact with the opposite sex, not look at magazines of a suggestive nature of any type, and adhere to ridiculous regs that require you to tuck your shirt into your PT uniform on the way to the porta-shi&&er at night, in a blinding dust storm, because it's a uniform.
These people we're sending to combat are some of the brightest I've met but they are looking for a little sanity, which they will only find on the outside if we don't get a friggin' clue. You can't continue asking people to live for months or years at a time acting like nuns and priests. Hell, even they get to have a beer. You can't continue to have them shoot at us but we need to call the Pentagon to get permission to shoot back!
Who are we afraid of offending? The guys that already h**e us enough to strap C-4 to their own bodies and walk into a crowd of us? Think about it.
I'm extremely proud of our young men and women who continue to serve.
I'm also very in tune with what they are considering for the future and I've got news for whoever sits in the White House, Congress, and our so-called military leaders. Much talent has and will continue to hemorrhage from our services, because wanna-be warriors are tired of fighting on two fronts - - one with our enemies, another against our lack of common sense.
Take it or leave it - that's just the way it is, no. ifs, ands, or buts.
Rules were made to be broken, bars were built to be drained every night and refilled for the next day
Where Have All The Real Combat Pilots Gone?
Beginning with McNamara the powers that be decided to run the Air Force like an 8 to 5 business. Warrior leaders of General LeMay's stature were no longer to be found. The fundamental job of the military, "k**l people and break things", became seriously hampered by "rules of engagement" whose guiding logic is political, not successful combat. I agree with the author. If and when the US military is defeated, it will be running the best Day Care centers in the world.
We used to go to the Officers Club or NCO Club Stag Bar on Friday afternoons to drink, smoke and swap lies with our comrades. Think about this when you read the rest of the letter below.
What happened to our Air Force/Marines/Army/Navy (our Military)?
Drinking then became frowned on. Smoking caused cancer and could "harm you." Stag bars became seen as 'sexist'. Gradually, our men quit patronizing their clubs because what happened in the club became fodder for a performance report. It was the same thing at the Airman's Club and the NCO and/or Top 3 clubs. Now we don't have separate clubs for the ranks. (What ever happened to familiarity breeds contempt?)
Instead, we have something called All Ranks Clubs or community clubs. They're open to men and women of all ranks from airman basic to general officer. Still, no one is there. Gee, I wonder why. The latest brilliant thought out of Washington is that the operators ("pilots?") flying remotely piloted aircraft in combat areas from their plush desk at duty stations in Nevada or Arizona should draw the same combat pay as those real-world pilots actually on board a plane in a hostile environment.
More politically correct logic?
They say that RPV operators are subject to the same stress levels as the combat pilot actually flying in combat. ----- REALLY? you're bull-shi&&ing me?
Now that I've primed you a little, read on.
There are many who will agree with these sentiments, but they apply to more than just fighter pilots. Unfortunately, the ones with the guts to speak up or push for what they believe in are beaten down by the "system."
Where have all the real combat pilots gone?
Good Question.
Here is a rant from a retired fighter pilot that is worth reading:
It is rumored that our current Secretary of Defense recently asked the question, "Where are all the dynamic leaders like the ones of the past?" I can only assume, if that is true, that he was referring to Robin Olds, Jimmy Doolittle, Patton, Ike, Boyington, Nimitz, etc.?
Well, I've got the answer:
They were fired before they made major!
Our nation doesn't want those kinds of leaders anymore. Squadron commanders don't run squadrons and wing commanders don't run wings. They are managed by higher-ranking dildos with other esoteric goals in mind.
Can you imagine someone today looking for a LEADER to execute that Doolittle Raid and suggesting that it be given to a dare-devil boozer - his only attributes: He had the respect of his men, an awesome ability to fly, and the organizational sk**ls to put it all together?
If someone told me there was a chance in hell of selecting that man today, I would tell them they were either a liar or dumber than sh&&.
I find it ironic that the Air Force put Brigadier General Robin Olds on the cover of the company rag one month.
While it made me extremely proud to see his face, he wouldn't make it across any base in America (or overseas) without ten enlisted folks telling him to zip up his flight suit, get rid of the cigarette, and shave his mustache off.
I have a feeling that his response would be predictable and for that crime, he would probably get a trip home and Article 15. We have lost the war on rugged individualism and that, unfortunately, is what real pilots want to follow; not because they have to but because they respect leaders of that ilk. We've all run across that leader that made us proud to follow him because you wanted to be like him and make a difference. The individual who you would d**g your testicles through glass for rather than disappoint him.
We better wake the hell up! We're asking our young men and women to go to really shi&&y places; some with unbearable climates, never have a drink, have little or no contact with the opposite sex, not look at magazines of a suggestive nature of any type, and adhere to ridiculous regs that require you to tuck your shirt into your PT uniform on the way to the porta-shi&&er at night, in a blinding dust storm, because it's a uniform.
These people we're sending to combat are some of the brightest I've met but they are looking for a little sanity, which they will only find on the outside if we don't get a friggin' clue. You can't continue asking people to live for months or years at a time acting like nuns and priests. Hell, even they get to have a beer. You can't continue to have them shoot at us but we need to call the Pentagon to get permission to shoot back!
Who are we afraid of offending? The guys that already h**e us enough to strap C-4 to their own bodies and walk into a crowd of us? Think about it.
I'm extremely proud of our young men and women who continue to serve.
I'm also very in tune with what they are considering for the future and I've got news for whoever sits in the White House, Congress, and our so-called military leaders. Much talent has and will continue to hemorrhage from our services, because wanna-be warriors are tired of fighting on two fronts - - one with our enemies, another against our lack of common sense.
Take it or leave it - that's just the way it is, no. ifs, ands, or buts.
Jan 9, 2019 15:22:40 #
Capt-jack wrote:
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Amen and Amen I am with you on this one thanks for the post it makes sense to me.
Jan 10, 2019 10:45:15 #
Capt-jack wrote:
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So sad. Thanks for posting and may God save us.
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