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Come together': US Dems introduce gun background check bill
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Jan 10, 2019 17:00:05   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
woodguru wrote:
A mental health law was set to go into effect and it was repealed...

No point in being personally insulting because you are ignorant, keep it civil there buddy.



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Jan 10, 2019 17:27:50   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Silly rhetoric, tightening up on who can get them makes it harder


I see you know very little about reality

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Jan 10, 2019 17:35:30   #
woodguru
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
You just defeated your own argument. You just stated how quickly you can change magazines. Do you actually think there is a real difference in the amount of rounds you can put out using ten instead of 30 round magazines? I mean a realistic difference. It could even be more with a ten round, since they are less likely to experience feeding malfunctions. A rifle with a pistol grip is illegal, but that same rifle with a thumbhole stock is just fine? A bayonet lug makes a rifle illegal? Tell us, how many people in the last ten years have been k**led by a bayonet equipped rifle?
Background checks? Universal? In 2014, there were a little over 76,000 stops on purchases from FFL dealers. Less than 100 were prosecuted, resulting in less than 30 convictions.
Since the mid sixties, there have been fewer than 1200 people k**led in mass shootings in this country. That's more than fifty years, to get to a fraction of the number of people who are k**led retail every year.
Most of the people who committed mass shootings passed background checks. As for the others, according to the BATFE the average gun recovered from a criminal is several years old and stolen. So expanding background checks will accomplish......what? An even greater number of non prosecutions?
The right says enforce the laws we have. The left says pass more laws that won't be enforced either.
You just defeated your own argument. You just stat... (show quote)


I think I know the difference between three of the same physical size magazines that hold 30 shots combined because they are limited to ten, and three that hold 90 because they have 30 each...

again my case being that I'd rather have the ability to get one with limited magazine size than not be able to get one at all. I personally know that boatloads of people can be k**led with anything, I have semi auto .22 target pistols that have 10 shot magazines, I have 18 magazines and can carry all 18 mags in my coat pockets. For an AR rifle eighteen 10 shot mags takes up too much space to carry conveniently. For the AR with 30 shot mags it's only six magazines. So quite frankly in close quarters the person carrying 18 magazines for a .22 is a far greater threat to more lives than the guy with an AR if he can't get bigger mags than 10 shots.

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Jan 10, 2019 17:57:11   #
teabag09
 
I think I would rather take my chance of being hit by a .22 from a target pistol than being hit by a .223 or 5.56. Same diameter of bullet, night and day power and destruction of flesh and bone difference. Mike
woodguru wrote:
I think I know the difference between three of the same physical size magazines that hold 30 shots combined because they are limited to ten, and three that hold 90 because they have 30 each...

again my case being that I'd rather have the ability to get one with limited magazine size than not be able to get one at all. I personally know that boatloads of people can be k**led with anything, I have semi auto .22 target pistols that have 10 shot magazines, I have 18 magazines and can carry all 18 mags in my coat pockets. For an AR rifle eighteen 10 shot mags takes up too much space to carry conveniently. For the AR with 30 shot mags it's only six magazines. So quite frankly in close quarters the person carrying 18 magazines for a .22 is a far greater threat to more lives than the guy with an AR if he can't get bigger mags than 10 shots.
I think I know the difference between three of the... (show quote)

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Jan 10, 2019 20:02:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
You just defeated your own argument. You just stated how quickly you can change magazines. Do you actually think there is a real difference in the amount of rounds you can put out using ten instead of 30 round magazines? I mean a realistic difference. It could even be more with a ten round, since they are less likely to experience feeding malfunctions. A rifle with a pistol grip is illegal, but that same rifle with a thumbhole stock is just fine? A bayonet lug makes a rifle illegal? Tell us, how many people in the last ten years have been k**led by a bayonet equipped rifle?
Background checks? Universal? In 2014, there were a little over 76,000 stops on purchases from FFL dealers. Less than 100 were prosecuted, resulting in less than 30 convictions.
Since the mid sixties, there have been fewer than 1200 people k**led in mass shootings in this country. That's more than fifty years, to get to a fraction of the number of people who are k**led retail every year.
Most of the people who committed mass shootings passed background checks. As for the others, according to the BATFE the average gun recovered from a criminal is several years old and stolen. So expanding background checks will accomplish......what? An even greater number of non prosecutions?
The right says enforce the laws we have. The left says pass more laws that won't be enforced either.
You just defeated your own argument. You just stat... (show quote)



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Jan 10, 2019 20:04:30   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Silly rhetoric, tightening up on who can get them makes it harder


Everyone should be armed...An Armed society is a polite society

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Jan 11, 2019 22:35:16   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
woodguru wrote:
I think I know the difference between three of the same physical size magazines that hold 30 shots combined because they are limited to ten, and three that hold 90 because they have 30 each...

again my case being that I'd rather have the ability to get one with limited magazine size than not be able to get one at all. I personally know that boatloads of people can be k**led with anything, I have semi auto .22 target pistols that have 10 shot magazines, I have 18 magazines and can carry all 18 mags in my coat pockets. For an AR rifle eighteen 10 shot mags takes up too much space to carry conveniently. For the AR with 30 shot mags it's only six magazines. So quite frankly in close quarters the person carrying 18 magazines for a .22 is a far greater threat to more lives than the guy with an AR if he can't get bigger mags than 10 shots.
I think I know the difference between three of the... (show quote)


You are conveniently overlooking the fact that almost every mass shooting has occurred in "gun free zones" where no one can shoot back and magazine size is not that important. Ten rounders would work as well as the thirties, and these shootings are not exactly spur of the moment things. They are planned out, so your "convenience" theory is a little absurd.
Do you think that these shootings all occur in gun free zones by accident or coinky-dink?

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