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Jan 11, 2019 18:06:10   #
debeda (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
If you remember, hilliar was separating herself from obama early in her campaign.
Then, Serverg@te happened and hilliar suddenly was at obama's mercy. So they cut a deal, hilliar dances to every obama whistle, she escapes prosecution, and they will fix it that she wins the election. Obama will even stay in Washington DC to help hilliar become his third term.
It mostly played out. That's why hilliar publicly apologized to obama when she lost. No one was more disappointed than obama. He lost to Trump.
If you remember, hilliar was separating herself f... (show quote)


AGREED

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Jan 11, 2019 18:43:38   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
Only to those who are very unstable like Trump... where's the National emergency , Americans working without getting paid?... seems that Trump has a long history of not paying people for their labor... no big deal... just Trump doing business like usual...


Government kommiecrats? Who gives a mueller. Besides, they'll get paid when Pelosi says they will get paid by giving Trump a bill he will sign. Until then, the government lifers can choose to get a real job or just wait for Pelosi to make her decision.

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Jan 11, 2019 18:53:58   #
eagleye13 (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
Trump couldn't save a rational thought... he has shut down our Government wanting to declare a National emergency for funding a wall that won't be completed for 5 years... now there's a stable genius ...


Democrats don't want more wall.
We need more wall.
We are going to get more wall.
The Dems can only delay it.

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Jan 11, 2019 19:14:31   #
emarine (a regular here)
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Democrats don't want more wall.
We need more wall.
We are going to get more wall.
The Dems can only delay it.


Maybe the Dems will delay it but the Independents will sort it out to where it does some good... so far Trump has failed In his every action... deploying combat troops to the border & cutting off the pay for the Coast Guard a Military branch trained for the heavy lifting enforcing our drug problems is just plain ignorant in every aspect... Trump finally did something all by himself that he can take full credit for... the longest government shut down in history... MAGA fool...

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Jan 11, 2019 19:42:53   #
eagleye13 (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
Maybe the Dems will delay it but the Independents will sort it out to where it does some good... so far Trump has failed In his every action... deploying combat troops to the border & cutting off the pay for the Coast Guard a Military branch trained for the heavy lifting enforcing our drug problems is just plain ignorant in every aspect... Trump finally did something all by himself that he can take full credit for... the longest government shut down in history... MAGA fool...


Democrat Congressmen put America in this shut down position.
There have been several times in the past decades that a wall was promised, and then nothing.
Trump knows that!!!

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Jan 11, 2019 20:52:24   #
emarine (a regular here)
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Democrat Congressmen put America in this shut down position.
There have been several times in the past decades that a wall was promised, and then nothing.
Trump knows that!!!




Na this ones on Trump, if we really needed a wall it would have been built when mass border crossings were a much bigger problem... Trumps a loose cannon selling fear... the only National emergency is Trump himself... logic dictates you don't crap on the men & women protecting our shore line which is much longer than our southern border & much harder to protect... you Trump supporters are devoid of logic...

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Jan 11, 2019 21:44:15   #
EmilyD (a regular here)
 
maximus wrote:
According to Fox News, the Center for Immigration Studies says that each illegal costs the Feds $82,191 over the life span of the illegal.

This estimate means that for every 100,000 illegal immigrants that are stopped from crossing the border, it would save taxpayers $8.2 billion over the illegal immigrants’ lifetimes, the report states.

The report also concludes that a southern border wall between the U.S. and Mexico would only have to stop four percent of undocumented migrants, or about 60,000 over the next 10 years, to recoup the cost of President Trump’s $5 billion funding ask.

There's also this aspect...

Several "Angel parents" -- the mothers and fathers of U.S. citizens killed by illegal immigrants -- are accusing top Democrats of being out of touch with “regular America” after they claimed President Trump is “manufacturing a crisis” at the border to win support for the construction of his long-promised wall.

So, yes I KNOW the wall will pay for itself. Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters both have high walls around their homes ( Obama too), and why, anyone might ask? To "keep unwanted people out"...to "stop" uninvited entry to their property is the ONLY answer.

I know that you are aware that Pelosi, Shumer, Obama, and many other democrats previously were in support of a wall for much more money that Trump is asking for, so why the 180 degree turnaround? Only ONE thing has changed...Trump got elected.
That one fact moves it out of the realm wasteful, useless, immoral points and moves it firmly into the "We don't want the wall only because Trump does" line of BS.
I also believe that the 90% of immigrants arriving at airports you mentioned, are legal.
Absolutely...the wall WILL work AND pay for itself.
According to Fox News, the Center for Immigration ... (show quote)

Excellent post! Although I think it will be called BS by the left without any research whatsoever.

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Jan 11, 2019 21:48:41   #
EmilyD (a regular here)
 
Gatsby wrote:
Plummeted, to 1,000 Illegals PER DAY entering our country through our southern border.

To think that our border can be secured without a fence, is shear Ignorance.

Combined, a good "border fence", a good "Border Road", "surveillance" cameras and drones;

along with increased human assets, could reduce that number to less than 10.

That prospect is what liberals find unacceptable!

You know what Gatsby? that number of 1,000 per day is just a guesstimate. Those are the ones that someone actually sees sneaking across the border. I believe that number is way higher...it is a pretty long border! And it's hard to count the night sneakers.

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Jan 11, 2019 22:20:36   #
kankune
 
debeda wrote:
Mexico will pay for the wall by losing the drug trade


Mexico will pay for the wall thru the billions we will save taking care of these illegals!

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Jan 11, 2019 22:25:00   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
kankune wrote:
Mexico will pay for the wall thru the billions we will save taking care of these illegals!


Biggest payback is that Mexico will have to keep its own people.

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Jan 11, 2019 22:37:15   #
kankune
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Biggest payback is that Mexico will have to keep its own people.


Shoot Mike...its not even the Mexicans anymore. How many people are filtering in to these caravans from terrorists countries? I say a hell of a lot!

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Jan 11, 2019 22:59:04   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
kankune wrote:
Shoot Mike...its not even the Mexicans anymore. How many people are filtering in to these caravans from terrorists countries? I say a hell of a lot!


Yer right. But they all arrive together through Meheeko.

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Jan 12, 2019 00:15:08   #
debeda (a regular here)
 
kankune wrote:
Mexico will pay for the wall thru the billions we will save taking care of these illegals!


basically Mexico will pay for the wall 10 times over

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Jan 12, 2019 01:01:10   #
kemmer (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
And a stable country.

A stable country??? Where the hell do you live? Trump is ripping this country apart.

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Jan 12, 2019 01:03:59   #
kemmer (a regular here)
 
kankune wrote:
Mexico will pay for the wall thru the billions we will save taking care of these illegals!

Mexico isn't going to pay a dime. That fool Trump says NAFTA 2.0 will pay for the wall and the Senate hasn't even ratified it yet. Besides, whatever new money coming in will go to private businesses because there are little or no tariffs being laid against Mexico.

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