JoyV

The left and RINOs have had to resort to outright lies and falsified figures to support their untenable position. Only by such obfuscation can anyone claim there is no crisis. In case you haven't looked at my previous response, here are the actual numbers from CBP.


FY18 FMUA UAC Total Apprehensions
Sector FY 2018 FY 2018 FY 2018
Big Bend 741 989 8,045
Del Rio 2,829 1,297 15,833
El Centro 3,539 2,715 29,230
El Paso 12,312 5,461 31,561
Laredo 597 2,879 32,641
Rio Grande 63,278 23,757 162,262
San Diego 4,408 2,491 38,591
Tucson 4,954 5,023 52,172
Yuma 14,554 5,424 26,244
USBP Southwest Border Total
107,212 50,036 396,579

Family units change by sector:
ector

FY2017

FY2018

% Change
FY17 to FY18

Big Bend

941 741 -21%
Del Rio

2,453 2,829 15%
El Centro

1,798 3,539 97%
El Paso

8,609 12,312 43%
Laredo

865 597 -31%
Rio Grande

49,896 63,278 27%
San Diego

2,944 4.408 50%
Tucson

2,042 4,954 143%
Yuma

6,074 14,554 140%



Unaccompanied Alien Children by Sector
Sector FY2017 FY2018 % Change

Big Bend 811 989 22%
Del Rio 1,349 1,297 -4%
El Centro 1,531 2,715 77%
El Paso 3,926 5,461 39%
Laredo 2,033 2,879 42%
Rio Grande 23,708 23,757 0%
San Diego 1,551 2,491 61%
Tucson 3,659 5,023 37%
Yuma 2,867 5,424 89%

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/usbp-sw-border-apprehensions

JoyV

Where do you get your figures? Just claiming something is so because you want to believe it does not make it true. I challenge you to back up your assertions with official documentation. i.e. NOT news articles!!!! CBP, ICE, DHS, etc.

Although there are plenty of people who overstay their visas, there are not more than those who invade.

I don't know the figures on drugs, and won't seek them out at this time. But if the majority don't cross our borders than we have an even bigger problem than I knewA and it still doesn't mean we can ignore the border as PLENTY is coming over including through my own property!

Come live on the front lines for a while and then assert how safe it is! I am in a rural area yet I've had more than 1 neighbor murdered. Shootouts between i******s and combines CBP and Sheriffs on the property and close to it. Dog shot. Fences taken down. House broken into multiple times. Traffickers trekking through property with automatic weapons. Terrorists picked up only miles away.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Border crossings have been declining for 20 years an d are at an all time low..

If you want to cut down the number of i******s in a serous way, close all the airports and seal the tight..

No one who is not painted orange wants to waste money on an ineffective wall..

You need not ask of the Democrats why for two years Trump, Ryan, and McConnell just sat around with their thumbs up their butts, and other than passing a tax cut did absolutely nothing else. They didn’t even attempt to pass a budget with the money to fulfill Trump’s “e******n Promise”. But maybe Ryan and McConnell bought Trump’s declaration the Mexicans would pay for the wall so they felt no sense of urgency to pass funding for the wall. Or maybe it’s just a matter of Trump’s sense of priorities suck.

So now the 2018 e******ns arrive and the Democrats take back control of the house. A good number of the newly elected Democrats are more radical and have run, and won, on anti-Trump and anti-Wall platforms. Now it doesn’t matter what you think, or what Trump thinks of these new congressmen and congresswomen. They don’t give a damn about you, or Trump. Some of them even possibly envision an America without people like you and Trump. But they’ve been given a mandate from the majority of v**ers of their congressional districts to impeach Trump. If I hired you to do a job and you didn’t get the job done, I’d fire you in a heartbeat. Guess what? That’s one of the mandates that’s also been given to many of the Democrats, “Get ’er done or get out”. Nancy Pelosi understands that it’s no longer to be business as usual.

I have to correct you on your observation of Democrats continuing to block the wall. Government is shut down now because Trump refused to negotiate, and in fact boasted he would take full responsibility for the shutdown. “I owned this shutdown“ he boasted, although now he’s resorted to his old ways of trying to “weasel out” by blaming anyone other than himself. Maybe it’s just a matter that Trump’s negotiating sk**ls suck, or maybe Trump just sucks as being a human being.

Trump’s not real smart, but he’s smart enough to know that it isn’t going to be all that difficult for the Democrats to come up with impeachable offenses.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

with the news sources being consistent and even the republicans who are not trump lackeys opposed to the wall. I will accept the information given.

I can not disregard the situation for you personally in your local area so I will of course accept that..

Other then those who support trump and will not say otherwise.. the wall is regarded as a waste of money.

Drugs are mostly hidden in cargo or trucks and coming via gates and truck routs, a wall will not change that..

Better ways to do the job are needed and all sides seem in favor of improved security.. it is not the wall or
nothing..

I think this covers it for most of us. right or left..

JoyV

Detentions declined under Obama when he instituted restrictions on who could be detained. And the numbers declined when he redefined who could be counted. Ask those living on the border and the CBP agents working on the border. The number of people illegally crossing our southern border DID NOT go down. But agents could not detain except under specified circumstances.

Now the CBP are no longer restricted, and all i******s detained or who were attempted to be detained (in other words they got away); are counted.

2015 and 2016 were the worst years. Even though this year the numbers have increased more due to the caravans; at least CBP is working hard to catch and detain them. In 2015 and 2016, CBP would give a warning that they had a know dangerous i*****l a***n in their sights heading toward my property but the Obama CBP restrictions would not allow them to detain the alien, so stay out of sight until they gave the all clear. That happened at least once a week. Then trains of at least 30 traffickers wearing large packs which I assume were full of drugs would trek through every a couple of times a month. Human traffickers were not as frequent. No more than once a month. And all the time Obama was claiming the border situation was minor and traffic was down. Even claims that more i******s were leaving than entering with i***ts believing that fantasy!

In 2018 not a single train made it to my property. And I am only 4 miles from the border and less than 20 miles from the nearest CBP station. CBP caught all groups before they reached here. There were 2 individuals my dogs spotted and I called CBP. One was an illegal and one was an American either lost or planning to meet i******s. In areas farther out and less confined, they miss more. I say confined because the trail they use to cross my property is the river itself. The riparian area is usually less than a quarter mile wide. So the only reason so many got through in the Obama 2nd term is his shackling of the CBP.

JoyV

The news sources supposedly get their figures from DHS, CBP, or ICE. So if their numbers differ from the source numbers from those agencies; why would you choose to believe their numbers over the official ones? The lists I posted are directly off the CBP site. I provided a link. But you choose to accept the news information with numbers which are different than the official numbers. Either the numbers the news uses were made up by one and copied by the rest; or are from several years ago.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

""The great majority of drugs come via commercial shipments as hidden contraband or mixed among
the cargo..""

How do you know this? Someone guessed? If known, it would have been stopped.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Proponents of a border wall often claim that it would help the United States solve its opioid addiction problem by blocking heroin smugglers from Mexico. This reveals a misunderstanding of how cross-border smuggling works.

The vast majority of the drug that enters from Mexico does so through “ports of entry”—the 48 official land crossings through which millions of people, vehicles, and cargo pass every day. “Heroin seizures almost predominantly are through the port of entry and either carried in a concealed part of a vehicle or carried by an individual,” then-U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Gil Kerlikowske told a congressional committee last year. “We don’t get much heroin seized by Border Patrol coming through, I think just because there are a lot of risks to the smugglers and the difficulty of trying to smuggle it through,” he said.

“The most common method employed by Mexican TCOs [T***snational Criminal Organizations] involves t***sporting drugs in vehicles through U.S. ports of entry (POEs),” the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) reported in its 2016 National Drug Threat Assessment. “Illicit drugs are smuggled into the United States in concealed compartments within passenger vehicles or commingled with legitimate goods on tractor trailers,” according to the document.

Heroin is small in volume. “It’s a relatively small amount—40-50 tons, we think—of heroin that feeds the heroin epidemic in the United States,” Gen. John Kelly, then the commander of U.S. Southern Command, told a Senate committee in 2015. The amount has probably increased somewhat today, but still takes up little space: all the heroin consumed in the United States in an entire year could probably fit into two 40-foot shipping containers.


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THE FACTS: Wh**ever constraints agents might have faced, they deported more than 2 million immigrants during the eight years Obama was in office, more than in previous administrations. They sent back 409,000 in 2012 alone, a record.

Republican lawmakers and some ICE officials did complain that they were directed to ignore some immigrants found living in the country illegally if they didn’t have serious criminal histories or otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.

Spicer outlined a similar priority, saying enforcement would focus “first and foremost” on those who have a criminal record or post a risk to the public. Still there’s little question that enforcement will be broadened.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Sorry, must still be needing more coffee.. had some CBP numbers to post and left them out..

these only compare 16, 17 total but give a bit of over view..

Hard to read, i never get charts to post nicely..


OTAL CBP ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
Numbers below reflect FY2016 and FY2017 totals, FY2018TD (October 1, 2017 - August 31, 2018)

FY2016 FY2017 FY2018TD
OFFICE OF FIELD OPERATIONS (OFO)
Total Inadmissibles1 274,821 216,370 204,288
U.S. BORDER PATROL
Total Apprehensions2 415,816 310,531 361,993
Total Enforcement Actions 690,637 526,901 566,281
1Inadmissibles refers to individuals encountered at ports of entry who are seeking lawful admission into the United States but are determined to be inadmissible, individuals presenting themselves to seek humanitarian protection under our laws, and individuals who withdraw an application for admission and return to their countries of origin within a short timeframe.
2Apprehensions refers to the physical control or temporary detainment of a person who is not lawfully in the U.S. which may or may not result in an arrest.