Steve700

It is pointless to argue with liberals and l*****ts. In the first place, they will not often rationally debate; they will however argue; mostly by way of insulting and denying.

And here is the reason why;

When you argue with them, you are not arguing facts or statistics, you are arguing against a religion. (Marxist humanism) Understand that conservatism, capitalism, and liberty are all founded in empirical evidence that has proven, time and time again, that when a people are free and you do not tax them to death, they will thrive and succeed. Limitless examples throughout history show this, not to mention that terabytes of economic data support this as well. Simply by observation, it is obvious that capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty and squalor than any other system on the planet. It is also evident that a populace grounded in a firm foundation of morals and values chooses capitalism. The opposite, of course, is true of leftism; that a degenerating populace is more sucsestable to Marxist/L*****t propaganda. This becomes easy when you consider t***h unknowable. The Libs say that is so because we are all too culturally biased to know t***h and everything is relative anyway. Liberalism enables a narcissist to feel better about himself; that he is more noble and caring, a better and finer and therefore more enlightened human being. Leftism is simply something for the masses to opiate themselves on and feel good about it. i.e.- it socialism, leftism, liberalism IS A RELIGION. L*****ts ideology, wh**ever the strain, is not based in reality. It is based in a belief. Specifically, a belief that they WANT to believe in. There is no empirical evidence. With the left there is no rational thought or intellectual honesty or rigor involved in their thinking.

Capitalism is the BEST economic system, hands down, period, besides the other reasons, it is the only system based in reality.

T***h and prosperity is not a value to the left. Their value is e******y. And in their immoral ignorance they have a tendency to excuse evil, not taking into full account that with our free will, the choices we make determine our destiny. We all know that where all born equal but only under a Marxist ideology do we remain equal. With freedom and liberty we are able to make the most of our talent, creativity and ambition. A conservative realizes that human nature is basically selfish and evil and that we have to be cultured out of that. (making the training in moral principles necessary) The liberal on the other hand, believes human nature to be basicly good and trusts government to have their best interest at heart and take care of their needs. It seems to me it's enough of a leap in faith to expect your family to do that much less a ruling elite who considers themselves above you. In their mesmerized optimistic "what could be" fantasy philosophy liberal equal opportunity has morphed into equal result. Keep in mind "a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have" -- "the bigger the government; the smaller the citizen" Yeah, in the fantasy l*****t utopia we will all be equal all right --- EQUALLY POOR

skott Loc: Bama

Not paying taxes is not capitalism. We have never had a complete capitalism market. There have always been restraints and restrictions. Even before the U.S. existed.

skott Loc: Bama

Your argument using religion is just plain wrong. "Liberal" is a word like "tall". It is comparative. Jesus was more liberal than the Sanhedrin. Does that make him a "liberal". He was also more liberal than the old testament god. He abolished an eye for an eye, and the other conservative Laws of Moses. He must be a Marxist according to you.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

By "Not paying taxes ...." I assume that you mean "corporate taxes", and in my opinion, there should be no corporate taxes. Do away with corporate taxes, and you have no gripe about the silly loopholes in the corporate tax laws.

Even though we may have never had a complete or perfect capitalist system, it does not negate the fact that capitalism is by far the best market system yet devised.

jay-are

Jesus was a liberal. People in America who also believe as Jesus did are called conservative today. People in America who call themselves liberal today are actually people who believe in the opposite of what Jesus taught. The reason they are called liberal today is that they just stole that description in the early 1900's to hide what they truly believe. Those who call themselves liberal today are not liberal, they are big government, tyrannical control, conservatives. They just lie, and call themselves liberal to decieve you. They are the Marxists. People who are called conservative in America today accept the label to differentiate themselves from the big government Marxist people.

The big government Marxists are liars, and they are lying when they claim to be liberal.

True liberals do believe in freedom, not control. Those who call themselves "liberals," today, do so to hide their true intentions. What really characterizes our modern version of liberals is that they lie. Everything they say, and everything they represent is a lie.

That is why, if you read American history, the founders were considered liberal. Current liberals are just conservatives (desirous of using government power to control people) who call themselves liberal as a deception to deceive people into following them.

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-8875-3.html#159598

skott Loc: Bama

I did not say it was. I think perfect is capitalism with safety features.

skott Loc: Bama

I love when a conservative says a liberal lies. That's the pot calling the kettle black. I would make you a list about the lies just about Obama and ACA, but it would take me all day and then some, and I have a job.

jay-are

How about "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?" Who told that lie, the conservatives or the liberals?

skott Loc: Bama

How about Obama is a muslin? How about "death panels"? How about government run health care? It is government mandated insurance. I still have all of my doctors. Did you lose yours?

rickdri

Jesus was neither a conservative or a liberal. He taught love for fellow man. He did not abolish God's (his) laws, he only softened them. He wanted people to realize that everyone is a hypocrite and that all need the love of God to sustain themselves. These arguments about whether he was a democrat or a republican have become crass in nature. They are ridiculous. He wasn't a political figure. Remember he said give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's. Meaning he is only interested in your soul not your earthly possessions.

jay-are

Will you eat crow when you lose your doctor? What do you think will happen when the employer mandate is reinstated?

Regarding Obama is a Muslim, have you seen this thread?
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-14972-1.html

The lie about healthcare is that it will never become government run. Obama and the liberals fully intend for it to become that eventually. They lie when they claim that is not their intent.

I don't have insurance. I don't believe in it. I see insurance as a racket, a protection scheme, that should be outlawed in the same way that Al Capone's activities were illegal and stopped by the legal system.

skott Loc: Bama

He is not a muslin. That thread is just h**e and bulls**t. Somehow all the "Christians" on here think it is ok to h**e. The government healthcare we have is medicare. the recipients love it. It is higher rated than any private insurance.

jetson

Jesus was the old testament God. He did all the creating and led the Israelites out of Egypt.

jay-are

Christians don't h**e, they are interested in self defense. Muslims h**e and k**l those who don't submit. Christians don't force anyone to be a Christian. They only recognize that the Christians are good guys that can be trusted and Muslims are bad guys to be wary of.

jay-are

That thread is not h**e and untrue. It is factually accurate information.

Regarding Obama is a Muslim, have you seen this thread?
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-14972-1.html