Bcon

Thursday, a video surfaced of Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) explaining how she found out that she had been elected to Congress.

Apparently, her young son alerted her to this fact though Tlaib ran essentially unopposed.

“Mama, look, you won. Bullies don’t win,” her woke child apparently said in reference to President Donald J. Trump.


According to Tlaib, her response was “Baby, they don’t. Because we’re gonna go in there, we’re gonna impeach the motherfucker.”



Tlaib has two boys with her ex-husband. The youngest, Yousif, is seven and was well-documented on Tlaib’s campaign trail, during which the media fawned over the single mother as Superwoman. Her oldest boy is only slightly older than Yousif. It is unclear which son Tlaib was talking to in her expletive-filled rant, but neither son has reached the age where a sane parent would consider cursing in front of him

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I don't believe there is ever an age when a civil person would consider cursing to be of value...

Perhaps in the company of one's fellows...
Far away from the reach of fairer ears...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Gee I wonder why that b***h has an x. Wonder what libs on here will defend her?least we’ll know who’s hopeless.

rumitoid

I agree. Maybe because I am old and grew up in parochial schools that had some very strict rules on language and conduct. There was no "locker room" talk, or if it was heard by a priest or brother, there would be hell to pay. I guess we all should have "fairer ears."

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I have noted that you avoid the baser portions of the English vocabulary , and am appreciative of the fact...

I was refering to women ; the fairer sex.

"locker room" talk is fine between consenting adults (although I personally prefer to keep sexual relations a private affair), but should not be used in the presence of a young and impressionable audience...

rumitoid

Okay, we may have basic disagreements or just a different view. I find calling women the fairer sex disparaging. There is a history behind that I will not get into now. "locker room" talk is never fine because by its very nature as such it is demeaning to women. Not okay anytime. Rapists can get approval from such talks. It inculcates a culture of macho dominance and the low regard of women as b***hes, whores, stupid, hysterical, and more. Item one: not to be respected but taken.

This may seem a heavy-handed response but that is just how I see it. Which is one of the reasons why Trump's comments on the Access Hollywood cemented him in my mind, rightly or wrongly, as total scum. And I feel he has proven me correct in that assessment.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Women are beyond doubt the fairer sex... In every sense of the word "fair"... One does not disparage a woman by treating her with respect and honor..
Locker room talk need not be demeaning. I know several women who find it quite 'flattering' (Although I personally do not enjoy it).... I am sure there are also women who engage in locker room talk....
I assure you (in my opinion) that a rapist would not wish to be caught by the men I know who have engaged in locker room talk... Yes , they are very macho and that extends to protecting their women...
Women are always to be respected and under the appropriate circumstances to be taken as well...
The Access Hollywood tape was disturbing, but I know many individuals who speak differently in private than in public... It should never have been made , let alone made public... By that premise any individual may be held accountable for any comment made at any time.... Very totalitarian...

We have a different opinion of POTUS 45...
But that is as it is...

rumitoid

Thank you for responding, but I feel you missed my point. We are people, no one fairer than another by any criterion. Respect and honor is for all humanity and not a select class of g****r, race, ethnicity, or a collection of expensive toys. Or authority.

Locker room talk, by its nature and moniker, is demeaning. Definition of Locker room talk: "Crude, vulgar, or bawdy talk, often involving boasts about one's sexual conquests." You said, "I know several women who find it quite 'flattering.'" Masochist find the whip or torture the same, and sadists appreciate it. Does not make it right or sane or good or okay.

"I am sure there are also women who engage in locker room talk...." That says absolutely nothing. Sure, this talk can be sometimes light-hearted and not purposely demeaning, just playful boasting or dares or image, yet at its fundamental nature--for one, few or all--there is the debasement factor.

You missed my point with this response. I said such talk could encourage a rapist (when hearing how his peers denigrated women). You said, "I assure you (in my opinion) that a rapist would not wish to be caught by the men I know who have engaged in locker room talk... Yes , they are very macho and that extends to protecting their women..." I agree on that about being caught but that has nothing to do with what I said.

"The Access Hollywood tape was disturbing, but I know many individuals who speak differently in private than in public... It should never have been made , let alone made public... By that premise any individual may be held accountable for any comment made at any time.... Very totalitarian...
If your private cannot be made public, where is your integrity? Or as Jesus said, "Even in your thoughts..." It is like these politic figures on the Right making r****t comments and dog-whistles then claiming it was just a joke. Or was misunderstood. To me, any r****t utterance is a mind-set, no accident. And that is true of locker room talk. To say what Trump said is, for me, as stated, an indictment of his character. No decent man would ever utter such total garbage. It would never occur to him.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

(((laughin))) what a load...aren't you another one round here that calls the trumpy a POS

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I separate the sexes and treat them differently... It was how I was raised and my father before me and so on... Respecting a woman is not the same as respecting a man... As we are different so too should the respect given and received be different... But I agree that we appear to be missing each other's respective points...

It is for each individual to determine what they feel is flattering or demeaning... Quote:"Masochist find the whip or torture the same, and sadists appreciate it. Does not make it right or sane or good or okay."... If consenting adults agree to it then I will cast no judgement... My standards apply to myself and myself alone...

Boasting is a part of human nature... I have (personally) always assigned locker room talk to the category of male-bonding... It is not something I engage in (sports and beer are my preferred methods of male-bonding) but I try to be tolerant of it...
Let us agree to disagree yet again...

My point towards the rapist (potential) was that the locker room talk I have heard certain individuals (from my circles) engage in would in no way encourage such an action... Nor would it in anyway make such an action appear justifiable... An analogy would be my cousins in the NRA who believe strongly in gun rights, but who would in no way condone or promote mass shootings... Unless the locker room talk Focused on the rape and/or abuse of women (at which point I would argue that it was no longer locker room talk but blatant sexism) it would in no way encourage a rapist...

Much of what I do in private I would not want made public... From my personal views on religion to my sexual relations with my wife...I certainly would not want my finances to be made public... Nor is it anyone's business how how I converse in private with my friends...
I believe Christ also mentioned something about not casting stones...
R****m is a word that gets bandied about far too much these days and is weaponized more often than not (in my opinion) as a way to shut down dialogue... True r****ts are in no way shamed by their beliefs and do not need to claim anything...

Query: When an individual of African decent calls another individual of African decent a 'n****r' does that qualify said individual as a r****t?
Quote : "To me, any r****t utterance is a mind-set, no accident. "


Quote:" To say what Trump said is, for me, as stated, an indictment of his character. No decent man would ever utter such total garbage. It would never occur to him."
I quite agree with you concerning what the usage of such language states about an individual... I am aware that it is a flaw in my character to JUDGE others based on my perceptions (could one do otherwise (?))...
Should the day come when he (POTUS Trump) publically proclaim such filth I will happily join with you in denouncing his character... Until then I will give him the benefit of the doubt as (earlier stated) the tape should never have been made, nor released...

rumitoid

"My standards apply to myself and myself alone..." Really? That's it, my only comment on your appreciated response. We see things differently. No stones.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Quote" "Really?"
Concerning consentual sex between mature individuals in the privacy of their respective domiciles... Of course...

Your responses are equally appreciated...

wolffy

And you love Muslims?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

How exactly did you make that leap?

Bcon

How did Clinton and Kennedy affect your psyche? Do they get a pass?