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Jan 5, 2019 12:48:52   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
We are not for open borders and have not had them for decades..

No way will this nation ever by run by the UN.. it is unlawful that it is even attempted and no one proposed that..

Both those ideas are what you got by h**e radio jocks and the right wing fish wrap media..

Not a bit of t***h in those ideas.. only h**e speech by those you hunker down with..

Beat Hillary? So what? She was the 2nd worst candidate running.. no one cares except the pitiful right wingers who mention her everyday..

do you think she still has a role in politics?? let her knit and write and act on TV.. the old lady must be tired and worn..
We are not for open borders and have not had them ... (show quote)


The HildaBeast will never give up, until she is behind bars.

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Jan 5, 2019 12:51:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Bcon wrote:
She tried to wipe clear her e mails, and took a hammer to her phones and hard drives. Does that sound like innocent to you. If it does, Nixon was more innocent than she could ever be.




Ha Ha Ha... the hammer to the phone is actually a recommended action when you replace a sensitive phone. business or government..

Get rid of its possible use for good.. it is one of several standard ways to curtail the unauthorized us of replaced phones..

Nothing wrong at all.. standard.. all OK..

did you love Nixon??? How about Agnew??



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Jan 5, 2019 12:53:20   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"It would be a wasted 20 plus billions dollars and I am a fiscal conservative.. I do not like to spend money when no good comes from it.." - perma-dodge
Have you asked Israel about that?
That lame excuse must be causing you to limp.



I would tell you about Israel but don`t fell like spending the time and bother to one who does not listen at all.

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Jan 5, 2019 12:56:31   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Bcon wrote:
No debate. Passed with no Republican v**es. Dems who were balking we’re threatened with retaliation. Great system the dims have.




Plenty of debate... for 2 years... republicans did v**e before the final.. but at McConnell insistence none v**ed for the finished product, even though they had
some input into the writing..

By the way... do you know the process used to create the rejected trumpcare health plan???

If you do, I bet you will not admit it..

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Jan 5, 2019 13:00:02   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
permafrost wrote:
Plenty of debate... for 2 years... republicans did v**e before the final.. but at McConnell insistence none v**ed for the finished product, even though they had
some input into the writing..

By the way... do you know the process used to create the rejected trumpcare health plan???

If you do, I bet you will not admit it..


I do not one DEM v**ed for it and almost all of the GOP except for a few brave ones . the best was McCain's thumps down lol

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Jan 5, 2019 13:10:32   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
Ha Ha Ha... the hammer to the phone is actually a recommended action when you replace a sensitive phone. business or government..

Get rid of its possible use for good.. it is one of several standard ways to curtail the unauthorized us of replaced phones..

Nothing wrong at all.. standard.. all OK..

did you love Nixon??? How about Agnew??


So smashing phones and bleach bit wash is recommended to government people? Where did you get that?
Even when a impending subpoena is on the menu? Perm, it's a matter of public record that the Clintons have destroyed much of their history of business. The Progs destroy all incriminating evidence, just like a seasoned bookie. Mueller tried to lose the FBI emails of Strzok and his whore 'Page'.. You are fairly smart and know what's up in these cases but feel the need to defend criminal behavior.

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Jan 5, 2019 13:12:00   #
Bcon
 
permafrost wrote:
Look out your window, read a newspaper, watch a real newscast.. you will witness the screwing of our country by a person who has dev**ed his life to c***ting and lying and
out right fraud..

He is an orange fog allowed to spread over our nation by such as you..


For such a bad president in your opinion, he has done more to right America from the wrongs commited in the past than any one of your party has ever done. Great economy,
Highest employment, lowest unemployment, more b****s employed than under your black president, recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol when the last four presidents, except Obama said they wanted to, but didn’t have the balls to do it, got rid of most of Obama’s policies and laws that he created with his pen and phone, etc. etc.
Counter that if possible

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Jan 5, 2019 13:13:22   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
byronglimish wrote:
So smashing phones and bleach bit wash is recommended to government people? Where did you get that?
Even when a impending subpoena is on the menu? Perm, it's a matter of public record that the Clintons have destroyed much of their history of business. The Progs destroy all incriminating evidence, just like a seasoned bookie. Mueller tried to lose the FBI emails of Strzok and his whore 'Page'.. You are fairly smart and know what's up in these cases but feel the need to defend criminal behavior.
So smashing phones and bleach bit wash is recommen... (show quote)


"You are fairly smart and know what's up in these cases but feel the need to defend criminal behavior."

If not Perma? Who?

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Jan 5, 2019 13:28:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
So 100 billion plus, a year on i*****l a***ns is of no concern to you Perm but the wall money disturbs your financial conscience? Check your math..please!




The wall would not remove the i******s sitting with us now, and that is what the over estimated cost is based on.

so the wall would have effect at all on the problem you express..

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Jan 5, 2019 13:34:05   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
The wall would not remove the i******s sitting with us now, and that is what the over estimated cost is based on.

so the wall would have effect at all on the problem you express..


The wall doesn't have to be continuous. The border Patrol officials have said the wall is pertinent in 57 points of entry. Drones and various detection capabilities go with the wall funding. If you have a leak in your boat, do you fix the leak or continue to bail. I say that you do both.

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Jan 5, 2019 13:42:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
jimpack123 wrote:
I do not one DEM v**ed for it and almost all of the GOP except for a few brave ones . the best was McCain's thumps down lol




Exactly, after writing it behind a closed door in a matter of weeks..

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Jan 5, 2019 13:49:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
So smashing phones and bleach bit wash is recommended to government people? Where did you get that?
Even when a impending subpoena is on the menu? Perm, it's a matter of public record that the Clintons have destroyed much of their history of business. The Progs destroy all incriminating evidence, just like a seasoned bookie. Mueller tried to lose the FBI emails of Strzok and his whore 'Page'.. You are fairly smart and know what's up in these cases but feel the need to defend criminal behavior.
So smashing phones and bleach bit wash is recommen... (show quote)



https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-clinton-destroyed-phones-better/

FOLLOWING FRIDAY AFTERNOON'S FBI release of documents about Hillary Clinton’s private email servers, Julian Assange, CNN, and Donald Trump have all railed against the revelation that her aide smashed two of her 13 private BlackBerrys with a hammer in an attempt to destroy them. Trump, with his usual talent for avoiding nuance, summed up the criticism: “People who have nothing to hide don’t smash phones with hammers." But ask a few security and forensics experts, and they'll tell you Clinton's mistake wasn't destroying the devices. If anything, she should have wrecked them more thoroughly.

Whether you're a Secretary of State with a phone full of classified documents or an average sext-sending citizen, data removal is a crucial security step before you let a device leave your control or recycle it. And security experts agree there's at least one surefire way to be certain that data is truly removed and unrecoverable: k**l the hardware. "You destroy that certain piece that’s storing the critical information, and there’s little chance you’re going to get it back," says Eric Brown, a lab manager at the forensic data-recovery firm Flashback Data. "It doesn’t matter how much money you throw at it or how much experience you have."

If Clinton had in fact used a federally-issued Blackberry like President Obama does, it might well have been destroyed after she used it, too. In accordance with a 2012 General Services Administration bulletin, all agencies must either recycle or donate used electronics for reuse. The State Department abides by that policy, too; if Clinton had been using State-issued devices, they would have gone through a similar, if more standardized, process of data deletion. A State Department official explained in a statement to WIRED that "department security policies mandate that all electronic devices are cleared of sensitive or classified information prior to reuse or disposal.” Some devices are wiped and reused, in other words, while others are destroyed as part of the recycling process.

There are plenty of ways to approach data destruction through software-based deletion or overwriting. But hardware destruction has the advantage of simplicity; An amateur might not be certain that a software deletion tool has rendered data unrecoverable against advanced forensic techniques, given that it is sometimes possible to restore "deleted" data. In mechanical hard drives, for example, the system may mark data as deleted but leave it in place until it is overwritten by new inputs. But smash storage hardware to small enough bits, and not even the cleverest forensic techniques can put the data back together coherently. "You can easily physically destroy things," says Brown. "You just need to make sure you're thorough in doing it."

The real issue with the Clinton staff's practice of destroying her Blackberrys is that question of thoroughness. The same staffer who bought and set up Clinton's server told the FBI that of the 13 BlackBerry smartphones Clinton used while at the State Department, there were “two instances where he destroyed Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer," according to the FBI's report. In a situation like Clinton's, there's no way to know whether breaking a device in half or wailing on it with a Ball-Peen actually destroyed the memory chip holding the phone's data. "Destruction doesn't always mean destroyed," Brown says.

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Jan 5, 2019 13:56:51   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-clinton-destroyed-phones-better/

FOLLOWING FRIDAY AFTERNOON'S FBI release of documents about Hillary Clinton’s private email servers, Julian Assange, CNN, and Donald Trump have all railed against the revelation that her aide smashed two of her 13 private BlackBerrys with a hammer in an attempt to destroy them. Trump, with his usual talent for avoiding nuance, summed up the criticism: “People who have nothing to hide don’t smash phones with hammers." But ask a few security and forensics experts, and they'll tell you Clinton's mistake wasn't destroying the devices. If anything, she should have wrecked them more thoroughly.

Whether you're a Secretary of State with a phone full of classified documents or an average sext-sending citizen, data removal is a crucial security step before you let a device leave your control or recycle it. And security experts agree there's at least one surefire way to be certain that data is truly removed and unrecoverable: k**l the hardware. "You destroy that certain piece that’s storing the critical information, and there’s little chance you’re going to get it back," says Eric Brown, a lab manager at the forensic data-recovery firm Flashback Data. "It doesn’t matter how much money you throw at it or how much experience you have."

If Clinton had in fact used a federally-issued Blackberry like President Obama does, it might well have been destroyed after she used it, too. In accordance with a 2012 General Services Administration bulletin, all agencies must either recycle or donate used electronics for reuse. The State Department abides by that policy, too; if Clinton had been using State-issued devices, they would have gone through a similar, if more standardized, process of data deletion. A State Department official explained in a statement to WIRED that "department security policies mandate that all electronic devices are cleared of sensitive or classified information prior to reuse or disposal.” Some devices are wiped and reused, in other words, while others are destroyed as part of the recycling process.

There are plenty of ways to approach data destruction through software-based deletion or overwriting. But hardware destruction has the advantage of simplicity; An amateur might not be certain that a software deletion tool has rendered data unrecoverable against advanced forensic techniques, given that it is sometimes possible to restore "deleted" data. In mechanical hard drives, for example, the system may mark data as deleted but leave it in place until it is overwritten by new inputs. But smash storage hardware to small enough bits, and not even the cleverest forensic techniques can put the data back together coherently. "You can easily physically destroy things," says Brown. "You just need to make sure you're thorough in doing it."

The real issue with the Clinton staff's practice of destroying her Blackberrys is that question of thoroughness. The same staffer who bought and set up Clinton's server told the FBI that of the 13 BlackBerry smartphones Clinton used while at the State Department, there were “two instances where he destroyed Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer," according to the FBI's report. In a situation like Clinton's, there's no way to know whether breaking a device in half or wailing on it with a Ball-Peen actually destroyed the memory chip holding the phone's data. "Destruction doesn't always mean destroyed," Brown says.
https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-clinton-des... (show quote)


Hillary's and Muellers FBI communications have a common, they were both subpoenaed!

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Jan 5, 2019 13:58:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Bcon wrote:
For such a bad president in your opinion, he has done more to right America from the wrongs commited in the past than any one of your party has ever done. Great economy,
Highest employment, lowest unemployment, more b****s employed than under your black president, recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol when the last four presidents, except Obama said they wanted to, but didn’t have the balls to do it, got rid of most of Obama’s policies and laws that he created with his pen and phone, etc. etc.
Counter that if possible
For such a bad president in your opinion, he has ... (show quote)


ALL of the economic gains are nothing but the trend of the last 8 years by Obama and a very quick look will prove it to you..

the reason Jerusalem was not made capitol is a misnomer.. it is left to Israel for that..

the issue was moving the US consulate.. that was discouraged by the several nations in the ME which are affected by this..
they said it was a bad and dangerous idea and the past presidents abide with that advise..

Only trump the fool would think he knows better then the rest of the world.

The EOs action was all that was left after the GOP congress refused to even bring anything President Obama wanted to the floor.
even when it had been originally been a republican idea..



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Jan 5, 2019 14:01:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
Hillary's and Muellers FBI communications have a common, they were both subpoenaed!




What, Muellers communications about agents was subpoenaed??

And what did they find..

Now the Dems will have the subpoena power.. What will they find??

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