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"Trump Shutdown": A Celebration of Ignorance.
Dec 29, 2018 11:09:41   #
Gatsby
 
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is but one possible alternative, and that is "Ignorance".

Congress has failed its Constitutional responsibility, that of presenting the president with a spending bill.

Until Congress does fullfill that Constitutional responsibility, the current shutdown Must continue.

The Constitution of the United States.
Article. I.
Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the V**es of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons v****g for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or V**e to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

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Dec 29, 2018 11:23:28   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Congress's main job is to do the peoples business. That includes a budget. These ass hats all need replaced. We need "clean" bills and actual v**es so we the people can see what they are v****g on and who exactly is v****g. Of course the people are mostly ignorant sheeple. The fact that they repeat the media and left talking points, that walls don't work, when the proof around the world is just the opposite is proof.
Gatsby wrote:
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is but one possible alternative, and that is "Ignorance".

Congress has failed its Constitutional responsibility, that of presenting the president with a spending bill.

Until Congress does fullfill that Constitutional responsibility, the current shutdown Must continue.

The Constitution of the United States.
Article. I.
Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the V**es of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons v****g for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or V**e to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is ... (show quote)

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Dec 29, 2018 11:33:37   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Gatsby wrote:
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is but one possible alternative, and that is "Ignorance".

Congress has failed its Constitutional responsibility, that of presenting the president with a spending bill.

Until Congress does fullfill that Constitutional responsibility, the current shutdown Must continue.

The Constitution of the United States.
Article. I.
Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the V**es of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons v****g for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or V**e to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is ... (show quote)


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they forgot!!!!!

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Dec 29, 2018 11:55:01   #
Gatsby
 
JFlorio wrote:
Congress's main job is to do the peoples business. That includes a budget. These ass hats all need replaced. We need "clean" bills and actual v**es so we the people can see what they are v****g on and who exactly is v****g. Of course the people are mostly ignorant sheeple. The fact that they repeat the media and left talking points, that walls don't work, when the proof around the world is just the opposite is proof.


Congress hasn't passed a budget in this century, instead they play a perverse game of "chicken" a dozen times a year over "spending bills".

Almost invariably pushing the deadline to the final hours, forcing the president to either accept their bill as is, or force a shutdown.

It seems that many of those who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America,

have never READ that Constitution!

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Dec 29, 2018 12:01:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
It's sad but I believe your are correct. I believe every Congress person should have to take classes on the constitution and then pass them before being allowed to cast a v**e on any bill.
Gatsby wrote:
Congress hasn't passed a budget in this century, instead they play a perverse game of "chicken" a dozen times a year over "spending bills".

Almost invariably pushing the deadline to the final hours, forcing the president to either accept their bill as is, or force a shutdown.

It seems that many of those who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America,

have never READ that Constitution!

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Dec 29, 2018 12:32:03   #
Gatsby
 
JFlorio wrote:
It's sad but I believe your are correct. I believe every Congress person should have to take classes on the constitution and then pass them before being allowed to cast a v**e on any bill.


Perhaps President Trump should inform congress that he will not sign any spending bill, short of a full annual budget.

In that way, if future "temporary appropriations" bill do not reach his desk ten days before the deadline,

a temporary shutdown would occur, every time that they are late.

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Dec 29, 2018 18:52:19   #
Lonewolf
 
Have to agree




JFlorio wrote:
Congress's main job is to do the peoples business. That includes a budget. These ass hats all need replaced. We need "clean" bills and actual v**es so we the people can see what they are v****g on and who exactly is v****g. Of course the people are mostly ignorant sheeple. The fact that they repeat the media and left talking points, that walls don't work, when the proof around the world is just the opposite is proof.

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Dec 29, 2018 18:55:56   #
Lonewolf
 
its called kick the can and they have been doing that forever and should be fired they can agree you can sell 100% cheese and not list other ingredients on the label
Just like all beef franks you don't have to list how much chicken is in them!

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Dec 29, 2018 22:11:47   #
Sicilianthing
 
Gatsby wrote:
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is but one possible alternative, and that is "Ignorance".

Congress has failed its Constitutional responsibility, that of presenting the president with a spending bill.

Until Congress does fullfill that Constitutional responsibility, the current shutdown Must continue.

The Constitution of the United States.
Article. I.
Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate,shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the V**es of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons v****g for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or V**e to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
If liberals do not "Lie", then there is ... (show quote)


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Ok but they’ve c*********d the Rules and procedures process long ago right ?

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