Airforceone

Now as the Trump shutdown continues there’s a good reason for Democrats to just say no we have had enough of Trump flip flopping on wall issues and blaming democrats.

Just 3 weeks ago the Senate Democrats agreed on an immigration bill of which 100 senators republicans and democrats v**ed yes in agreement with Trump. It was all negotiated with Trump and approved by Congress.

Trump flips on the agreement when Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh critize him and we all know these two control the ignorant Trump supporters along with Fox News.

Before the mid term e******n all Trump had to do was except a 10 to 14 year path to citizenship for Children of Undocumented brought here at a young age. Or having a parent that is an American citizen.

That deal was on the table for months for Trump to accept. All Trump had to do was give 1.8 million Dreamers a path to citizenship and Democrats would have given Trump full funding of $25 billion for his wall that Mexico was suppose to pay for.

Where Trump supporters refuse to read legislation and for what reason I do not know. They want to maintain there ignorance and r****t agenda. The Democrats offer Full wall funding in exchange for DACA which only invovled 1.8 million kids it received 54 v**es in the senate but 60 was needed to prevent a Trump Veto. But Trumps alternative to the democrats legislation only received 39 v**es in the senate. This only proves that Trump is an i***t and his disfunctional followers just continue to listen to his lies and misinformation.

Trump may have wished he had it to do over again, but it’s to late. The White House lost its leverage when the courts ruled that this White House I***t could not scap the DACA Policy. Now Trump has DACA and no wall. But this just proves time and time again how stupid he is. This would have been hugh for republicans going into the mid terms not to mention it would have been the biggest victory of the Trump presidency. For reasons he ought to regret.

Now full funding for his border wall and all he had to do was accept the conditions of 1.8 million children brought to this country as kids. These are the conditions.

Under the age of 31 since 6/15/07 employed and paying US taxes.
Came to the US before age 16 birthday.
Resides in the US since 6/15/07 and currently in school, graduated or received certificate of completion, honorable discharge from the US military.
Have not been convicted of a felony, 3 or more misdemeanors.

( WOW DID THESE PEOPLE CREATE A THREAT TO THE ANERICAN PEOPLE)

Only .004% of our population invovled DACA. But the White House I***t turned down full funding. And now this i***t whines again that it’s the democrats.

It’s estimated that approximately 9000 dreamers now serving in the military. These groups include Doctors, Nurses, Service members, proficiency in languages which is considered vital to strategic importance to our military. This again proves Trump does not want a wall he wants the issue to blame democrats.

But Trump has never told his supporters that 702,000 VISA overstays per year is the biggest Immigrstion problem but the (DEMOCRATS WERE STILL WILLING TO GIVE HIM FULL FUNDING FOR HIS USELESS WALL, THAT ALL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES SAY ITS A WASTE OF TAX PAYER FUNDS) VISA overstays are the problem but this White House i***t continues to fill his ignorant supporters that these i******s are flooding across our borders. What sense does it make to spend $25 billion on a wall out in the desert when they can just come here legally.

Oh and by the way just to update the ignorant Trump supporters the biggest offenders of VISA overstays are the Canadians how come we are not building a wall along the Canadian border.

These are facts but there’s no getting through the r****t agenda of Trump supporters because Mexico is brown Canada is white.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

woodguru

Trump had one year, if not two...and plenty of funding to do really comprehensive work on complete breakdowns of the sections of wall and other border security such as high tech sensors and drones. The fact is the real cost is north of $50 billion to do the job right, and the other part of the equation is to address the other end, which is far more comprehensive immigration reforms and internal security.

Putting real numbers to this forces different realities to be looked at as far as effective policies and control.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

We care about progress, not perfection. You're wasting your time.

JoyV

You are mistaken. Trump's compromise offer, which had some bipartisan support, was to include not just the roughly 700,000 Dreamer immigrants who have applied for DACA protection since 2012, but an additional 1.1 million i*****l i*******ts who could have qualified but have not yet applied. In return he wanted Congress to fund the wall, end the draft lottery; make it legal for children to be housed with their parents beyond the 20 days of the Flores agreement (which would reduce the number of children being separated from parents); and include a plan to reduce chain migration, hopefully phasing it out over several years for the families of DACA recipients. Despite this being a big win on all points the Democrats have said they wanted, and an even bigger win for DACA; this was rejected by the Senate because it included a border wall!

I can find no bill passed by both houses of congress on border security which Trump has vetoed. There are several proposals which are being floated in Congress but none have so far passed both houses.

Gatsby

"Democrats would have given Trump full funding of $25 billion for his wall" is a LIE.

What Democrats offered was a 'promise' of $25 billion, someday.

That and $7.95 (plus tax and gratuity), will buy you a cup of coffee.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

...and a sweetroll in NV.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Thank God... I thought it was my Poor search engine sk**ls... I also could not find this bill..

Airforceone

Then why did you v**e for Trump where the hell is the progress, deficit exploding, Stock market declining, No infrastructure bill, no healthcare, no wall, trade wars, no middle class tax cuts, 17 Trump related investigation where his associates and advisor’s headed to jail, the government is shut down, North Korea still building Nukes just released by North Korea we will stop building Nukes when the US dismantles there’s, so WTF progress are you talking about.

Airforceone

He never got to veto these bills because he informed Republican leaders he would veto the bill if passed in the house. But stop your BS about DACA who gives a damm if there were 1.8 or 2.8 they were brought here as Children they married Americans have families in the US and they are more American than you are.

Chain migration has nothing to do with DACA so don’t pull that garbage. Are you talking about the same Chain migration that trumps wife brought her parents into this country. Are you talking about Trumps wife that came here on a temporary VISA and stayed met Trump got married and with his money and influence got her citizenship. Give me a break Trump blew it. Over a year ago and now he’s looking for the same deal. But the courts already blew Trump out of the water.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You would rather see Trump fail than see America secure, and successful.

JoyV

Did you READ my post? Trump offered to INCREASE the number covered under DACA!!!!

Which bill are you referring to? There are about half a dozen in congress. What Trump said was he would veto ANY which did not include funding for the wall.

As for more American than I, I am an American Indian. Who has more right to call themselves Americans than American Indians!

Of course chain migration is associated with DACA. It is the practice of DACA recipents' resident status being used as a means for relatives of the DACA recipient to go to the head of the line to enter our country.

Melania did not come here illegally, nor was she brought here illegally as a child. She came to this country legally and went through the process of becoming a citizen. Her citizenship was NOT purchased. Citizenship is not for sale! When her parents came, she was not in a semi-legal position of a DACA recipient but was a United States citizen. So the comparison is flawed.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

You'll find that "mistaken" is a common theme in his posts.

waltmoreno

Reagan made a similar bargain with the democrats. Where they promised him funding for a wall in exchange for amnesty for millions of i*****l a***ns. Turns out that the amnesty part came through - but funding for the wall never came through.
Reagan considered it to be one of his worst mistakes of his presidency.
Trump will NOT allow himself to be bamboozled.

But Trump's already exploring other ways to get the wall. Including having the military do the work. And taking advantage of the El Chapo Act. Which allows the government to seize assets of drug lords to use for funding the wall. El Chapo's assets are said to be in the vicinity of 14 billion dollars.
MAGA!!!