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Dec 24, 2018 07:55:11   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-stock-market-performance-is-now-crushing-trumps.html


As the stock market continues its Trump slide toward the worst performance since the Great Recession, Obama’s stock market performance is now twice as good as Trump‘s.
The Washington Post reported a statistic that has Trump scared:

Before the market downturn, Trump would take prepared remarks and add comments about the economy, officials say. But lately, he has tweeted less about the economy.

The Dow’s performance since Trump took office is now significantly less than what was achieved at the same point in Barack Obama’s presidency. The Dow is up 18 percent under Trump, compared with 45 percent at this point under Obama, according to Bespoke Investments.
Trump has repeatedly faulted the Federal Reserve for the market slide. But on Wall Street, many say Trump’s recent actions are also to blame.

Except for complaining about the Fed, Trump has largely gone silent on the economy. His days of bragging about and taking credit for the stock market are long gone. It now seems like everytime Trump opens his mouth, he says something else that causes the market to tumble. Trump started a trade war then oversold his trade war truce with China. Trump bragged that he would be proud to shut down the government, and then he did shut down the government. All of these events were Trump created, and they sent markets plunging.
Trump is just above the historical average for presidents at this point in their terms of 15.5%, and he is plunging fast toward the Republican p**********l average of 11%.

Wall Street has lost confidence in Trump and each more erratic move that Trump makes only worsens the crisis. A recession is looming, and no one has confidence that Trump will be able to deal with it.
Wall Street has finally caught up with the rest of the country in that they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama.
For more discussion about this story join our Rachel Maddow and MSNBC group.

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Dec 24, 2018 08:09:21   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-stock-market-performance-is-now-crushing-trumps.html


As the stock market continues its Trump slide toward the worst performance since the Great Recession, Obama’s stock market performance is now twice as good as Trump‘s.
The Washington Post reported a statistic that has Trump scared:

Before the market downturn, Trump would take prepared remarks and add comments about the economy, officials say. But lately, he has tweeted less about the economy.

The Dow’s performance since Trump took office is now significantly less than what was achieved at the same point in Barack Obama’s presidency. The Dow is up 18 percent under Trump, compared with 45 percent at this point under Obama, according to Bespoke Investments.
Trump has repeatedly faulted the Federal Reserve for the market slide. But on Wall Street, many say Trump’s recent actions are also to blame.

Except for complaining about the Fed, Trump has largely gone silent on the economy. His days of bragging about and taking credit for the stock market are long gone. It now seems like everytime Trump opens his mouth, he says something else that causes the market to tumble. Trump started a trade war then oversold his trade war truce with China. Trump bragged that he would be proud to shut down the government, and then he did shut down the government. All of these events were Trump created, and they sent markets plunging.
Trump is just above the historical average for presidents at this point in their terms of 15.5%, and he is plunging fast toward the Republican p**********l average of 11%.

Wall Street has lost confidence in Trump and each more erratic move that Trump makes only worsens the crisis. A recession is looming, and no one has confidence that Trump will be able to deal with it.
Wall Street has finally caught up with the rest of the country in that they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama.
For more discussion about this story join our Rachel Maddow and MSNBC group.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-sto... (show quote)


" they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama. "



You have lifted my spirits during this cold, rainy, dismal winter weather.

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Dec 24, 2018 08:26:48   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
" they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama. "



You have lifted my spirits during this cold, rainy, dismal winter weather.
" they miss the steady, competent, and intel... (show quote)


Too bad it won't help the jittery trump market.

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Dec 24, 2018 09:35:15   #
badbob85037
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-stock-market-performance-is-now-crushing-trumps.html


As the stock market continues its Trump slide toward the worst performance since the Great Recession, Obama’s stock market performance is now twice as good as Trump‘s.
The Washington Post reported a statistic that has Trump scared:

Before the market downturn, Trump would take prepared remarks and add comments about the economy, officials say. But lately, he has tweeted less about the economy.

The Dow’s performance since Trump took office is now significantly less than what was achieved at the same point in Barack Obama’s presidency. The Dow is up 18 percent under Trump, compared with 45 percent at this point under Obama, according to Bespoke Investments.
Trump has repeatedly faulted the Federal Reserve for the market slide. But on Wall Street, many say Trump’s recent actions are also to blame.

Except for complaining about the Fed, Trump has largely gone silent on the economy. His days of bragging about and taking credit for the stock market are long gone. It now seems like everytime Trump opens his mouth, he says something else that causes the market to tumble. Trump started a trade war then oversold his trade war truce with China. Trump bragged that he would be proud to shut down the government, and then he did shut down the government. All of these events were Trump created, and they sent markets plunging.
Trump is just above the historical average for presidents at this point in their terms of 15.5%, and he is plunging fast toward the Republican p**********l average of 11%.

Wall Street has lost confidence in Trump and each more erratic move that Trump makes only worsens the crisis. A recession is looming, and no one has confidence that Trump will be able to deal with it.
Wall Street has finally caught up with the rest of the country in that they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama.
For more discussion about this story join our Rachel Maddow and MSNBC group.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-sto... (show quote)


Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the economy works as they do about everything else. But no one is going to tell them as it would be a waste of time. But for all with the sense God gave a piss ant how many times has the Federal Reserve raised interest rates in the last year? I swear you buy them books, send them to school and for what? Still haven't a clue on basic economy.

Look ass clowns obama did absolutely nothing for America, it's people or or allies. He was a t*****r and so was his administration. From holder running guns with obama's approval to hillarys covering her pay to play criminal gun running to Syria. Democrats get played like a used fiddle their whole lives. On their death bed they are still clueless. One word, California.Not enough? Then here's 10 more 10, Detroit, Oakland, St Louis, Memphis, Stockton, Birmingham, Baltimore, Cleveland, Atlanta, Milwaukee. Still completely clueless scratching your ass and biting our fingernails. The reason this infection doesn't die out is food stamps. Democrats would have all starved by now if it were not for food stamps.







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Dec 24, 2018 09:41:20   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Bob can only post worthless opinion pieces from his left wing sites. He knows nothing of the economy as you say. Math and facts upset him and his ilk. to hard to spin so they never take a hard look at the data since it doesn't fit their ideology. He's one of the more clueless, childless and ignorant on OPP.
https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/05/federal-funds-target-rate/

badbob85037 wrote:
Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the economy works as they do about everything else. But no one is going to tell them as it would be a waste of time. But for all with the sense God gave a piss ant how many times has the Federal Reserve raised interest rates in the last year? I swear you buy them books, send them to school and for what? Still haven't a clue on basic economy.

Look ass clowns obama did absolutely nothing for America, it's people or or allies. He was a t*****r and so was his administration. From holder running guns with obama's approval to hillarys covering her pay to play criminal gun running to Syria. Democrats get played like a used fiddle their whole lives. On their death bed they are still clueless. One word, California.Not enough? Then here's 10 more 10, Detroit, Oakland, St Louis, Memphis, Stockton, Birmingham, Baltimore, Cleveland, Atlanta, Milwaukee. Still completely clueless scratching your ass and biting our fingernails. The reason this infection doesn't die out is food stamps. Democrats would have all starved by now if it were not for food stamps.
Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the ... (show quote)

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Dec 24, 2018 09:46:02   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the economy works as they do about everything else. But no one is going to tell them as it would be a waste of time. But for all with the sense God gave a piss ant how many times has the Federal Reserve raised interest rates in the last year? I swear you buy them books, send them to school and for what? Still haven't a clue on basic economy.

Look ass clowns obama did absolutely nothing for America, it's people or or allies. He was a t*****r and so was his administration. From holder running guns with obama's approval to hillarys covering her pay to play criminal gun running to Syria. Democrats get played like a used fiddle their whole lives. On their death bed they are still clueless. One word, California.Not enough? Then here's 10 more 10, Detroit, Oakland, St Louis, Memphis, Stockton, Birmingham, Baltimore, Cleveland, Atlanta, Milwaukee. Still completely clueless scratching your ass and biting our fingernails. The reason this infection doesn't die out is food stamps. Democrats would have all starved by now if it were not for food stamps.
Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the ... (show quote)







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Dec 24, 2018 10:46:25   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the economy works as they do about everything else. But no one is going to tell them as it would be a waste of time. But for all with the sense God gave a piss ant how many times has the Federal Reserve raised interest rates in the last year? I swear you buy them books, send them to school and for what? Still haven't a clue on basic economy.

Look ass clowns obama did absolutely nothing for America, it's people or or allies. He was a t*****r and so was his administration. From holder running guns with obama's approval to hillarys covering her pay to play criminal gun running to Syria. Democrats get played like a used fiddle their whole lives. On their death bed they are still clueless. One word, California.Not enough? Then here's 10 more 10, Detroit, Oakland, St Louis, Memphis, Stockton, Birmingham, Baltimore, Cleveland, Atlanta, Milwaukee. Still completely clueless scratching your ass and biting our fingernails. The reason this infection doesn't die out is food stamps. Democrats would have all starved by now if it were not for food stamps.
Looks like thes Democrats know as much on how the ... (show quote)


That's classic deflection.

First, google (or use your favorite search engine) 'trump on the stock market'. You will find plenty of sources that show the President taking credit for the market. It's was one of his favorite metrics....til it wasn't. Like the weather, just wait a day and Trump's story will change. You can make the argument that a President has very little control over the economy, but then you'd better tell that to Mr. Trump. Or you take credit during good times and blame during bad. Can't have it both ways.
Bad Bob was just hoisting the President on his own petard.

Second, your screed about Obama is another data point in a hypothesis I've developed over the past two years: the more troubled the Trump Presidency, the more we hear about Obama and Mrs. Clinton from the right wing. Your equivalent of screaming into the night.

This is gonna be a fun two years.

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Dec 24, 2018 10:53:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
That's classic deflection.

First, google (or use your favorite search engine) 'trump on the stock market'. You will find plenty of sources that show the President taking credit for the market. It's was one of his favorite metrics....til it wasn't. Like the weather, just wait a day and Trump's story will change. You can make the argument that a President has very little control over the economy, but then you'd better tell that to Mr. Trump. Or you take credit during good times and blame during bad. Can't have it both ways.
Bad Bob was just hoisting the President on his own petard.

Second, your screed about Obama is another data point in a hypothesis I've developed over the past two years: the more troubled the Trump Presidency, the more we hear about Obama and Mrs. Clinton from the right wing. Your equivalent of screaming into the night.

This is gonna be a fun two years.
That's classic deflection. br br First, google (o... (show quote)


I have to disagree here, Stiffy. We've been screaming about Obama, and Clinton long before Trump threw his hat in the ring.

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Dec 24, 2018 11:13:54   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
archie bunker wrote:
I have to disagree here, Stiffy. We've been screaming about Obama, and Clinton long before Trump threw his hat in the ring.


LOL. Point taken. Can't argue with you there.

Dang....that's gonna complicate my data collection and analysis.

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Dec 24, 2018 11:17:43   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-stock-market-performance-is-now-crushing-trumps.html


As the stock market continues its Trump slide toward the worst performance since the Great Recession, Obama’s stock market performance is now twice as good as Trump‘s.
The Washington Post reported a statistic that has Trump scared:

Before the market downturn, Trump would take prepared remarks and add comments about the economy, officials say. But lately, he has tweeted less about the economy.

The Dow’s performance since Trump took office is now significantly less than what was achieved at the same point in Barack Obama’s presidency. The Dow is up 18 percent under Trump, compared with 45 percent at this point under Obama, according to Bespoke Investments.
Trump has repeatedly faulted the Federal Reserve for the market slide. But on Wall Street, many say Trump’s recent actions are also to blame.

Except for complaining about the Fed, Trump has largely gone silent on the economy. His days of bragging about and taking credit for the stock market are long gone. It now seems like everytime Trump opens his mouth, he says something else that causes the market to tumble. Trump started a trade war then oversold his trade war truce with China. Trump bragged that he would be proud to shut down the government, and then he did shut down the government. All of these events were Trump created, and they sent markets plunging.
Trump is just above the historical average for presidents at this point in their terms of 15.5%, and he is plunging fast toward the Republican p**********l average of 11%.

Wall Street has lost confidence in Trump and each more erratic move that Trump makes only worsens the crisis. A recession is looming, and no one has confidence that Trump will be able to deal with it.
Wall Street has finally caught up with the rest of the country in that they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama.
For more discussion about this story join our Rachel Maddow and MSNBC group.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-sto... (show quote)


The Market is gonna have conniptions as the Fed get fails and gets audited. Central banks are in trouble. I told my Ma to get rid of her Deutsche Bank and buy some silver.

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Dec 24, 2018 11:27:48   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
LOL. Point taken. Can't argue with you there.

Dang....that's gonna complicate my data collection and analysis.


I h**e to make things complicated, since I'm a simple guy, but couldn't help pointing that one out. Now I feel guilty for increasing your workload.

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Dec 24, 2018 11:34:23   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
archie bunker wrote:
I h**e to make things complicated, since I'm a simple guy, but couldn't help pointing that one out. Now I feel guilty for increasing your workload.


No worries. I too like simplicity, but it's going to make me think harder so I'm kinda grateful. It's a nice gift you handed me. Hope you and Mrs. Bunker have a Merry Christmas.


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Dec 24, 2018 11:47:16   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-stock-market-performance-is-now-crushing-trumps.html


As the stock market continues its Trump slide toward the worst performance since the Great Recession, Obama’s stock market performance is now twice as good as Trump‘s.
The Washington Post reported a statistic that has Trump scared:

Before the market downturn, Trump would take prepared remarks and add comments about the economy, officials say. But lately, he has tweeted less about the economy.

The Dow’s performance since Trump took office is now significantly less than what was achieved at the same point in Barack Obama’s presidency. The Dow is up 18 percent under Trump, compared with 45 percent at this point under Obama, according to Bespoke Investments.
Trump has repeatedly faulted the Federal Reserve for the market slide. But on Wall Street, many say Trump’s recent actions are also to blame.

Except for complaining about the Fed, Trump has largely gone silent on the economy. His days of bragging about and taking credit for the stock market are long gone. It now seems like everytime Trump opens his mouth, he says something else that causes the market to tumble. Trump started a trade war then oversold his trade war truce with China. Trump bragged that he would be proud to shut down the government, and then he did shut down the government. All of these events were Trump created, and they sent markets plunging.
Trump is just above the historical average for presidents at this point in their terms of 15.5%, and he is plunging fast toward the Republican p**********l average of 11%.

Wall Street has lost confidence in Trump and each more erratic move that Trump makes only worsens the crisis. A recession is looming, and no one has confidence that Trump will be able to deal with it.
Wall Street has finally caught up with the rest of the country in that they miss the steady, competent, and intelligent leadership of Barack Obama.
For more discussion about this story join our Rachel Maddow and MSNBC group.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/23/obamas-sto... (show quote)


19,732 was the height of the market under Obama. It is a bit less than 23,000 today. Keep on blowing smoke.

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Dec 24, 2018 11:50:13   #
Comment Loc: California
 
JFlorio wrote:
Bob can only post worthless opinion pieces from his left wing sites. He knows nothing of the economy as you say. Math and facts upset him and his ilk. to hard to spin so they never take a hard look at the data since it doesn't fit their ideology. He's one of the more clueless, childless and ignorant on OPP.
https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/05/federal-funds-target-rate/



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Dec 24, 2018 11:58:42   #
woodguru
 
The only reason Trump saw any increases the first year was because it was the direction it had been headed under Obama. Trends don't change, they just keep doing what they've been doing unless you actively start making policy changes that will affect them over time. Trump aggressively made change after change that is known to be hard on the market and economy. It was not dems that made the changes that aren't working, dems have not had a chance to change anything, yet the ignorant right is already running the rhetoric that dems are trashing the market.

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