PeterS

Now personally I don't understand the logic so I thought perhaps one or two of our conservative friends out there might try to explain.

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/ben-carson-tripling-rent-for-subsidized-housing-will-help-people-escape-poverty-_lAc0y8u-EaAoYj-zqav4Q/?utm_source=Amplify&utm_medium=Intellectualist&utm_campaign=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2bwJBIHk6LutAkQRFfGmOlhWV55fxG9XxhVlzwT-FzVi_pS09109xO2Wk

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Perhaps you could help me as well...
How is going from 30% to 35% tripling?
I apologize... It has been a few years since my school days and I am unfamiliar with modern (progressive) math...
Thank you kindly for taking the time to update me...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, that blows my math sk**ls all to hell.

I believe Carson's proposed rent hike would apply only to those who are capable of working. There is a subsidized apartment complex a half mile from me, from what I know, half of those living there are single mothers, some with 3 or 4 children, the rest are either disabled or elderly. I can't see how this would apply to them. In any case, jobs around here right now are scarce. Nation wide, 40% of those living in subsidized housing are retired--65 or older. I'm sure they would be exempt from this.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I believe you are correct as well...
Subsidized housing serves a valuable purpose but should not be open to those capable of providing for themselves...
From what I have read so far Carson's proposal would act as an incentive for those who are capable to provide more for themselves... Something I believe most strongly in...

Seth

What the left leaning "journalists" and politicans somehow neglect to mention is the considerable number of able bodied men and women who are collecting disability checks from Social Security along with cost of living stipends from their respective states for non-existent disabilities, or what amount to manageable disorders passed off as disabilities.

I could take you for a walk through San Francisco, Venice or Santa Monica, for example, and you would see droves of them, spending their days getting high on weed or using meth, and once they've spent the taxpayers' money in short order on their drug of choice, panhandling or stealing to obtain more funds.

Many of them eventually end up in subsidized housing.

We're talking people in their late teens, twenties and thirties, victims as much of a socialist system as they are of their own laziness or stupidity, because the system allows them to skate on the taxpayers' dime, complicit with so- called "professionals" who diagnose them as disabled and/ or sleazy lawyers who assist them in beating the system.

The younger ones call themselves "dirty kids," and will literally look at you like you're crazy if you even suggest they find some sort of work.

Then there are minority members whose entire upbringings, often in fatherless "homes" on welfare in housing projects, who, thanks to the Democratic Party, see living off the taxpayer as a respectable mode of life, again, most of whom could be working.

Ben Carson's idea makes a lot of sense, something needs to be done to light a fire under these people to make them self sufficient and, through eventual full reentry (or entry, period) into the marketplace, up to an income level where they can live on the fruits of their own efforts.

It's long been my belief that the Democrats' push to allow as many i******s into the country as possible is in part based on their intention to deprive those Americans mentioned above of available unsk**led jobs in order to keep them on the public dole, especially b****s, who they have long seen as a mainstay v****g collective (keeping their neighborhood schools failures at educating, keeping them in fatherless homes, keeping them believing "Republicans want to take everything away from you, Democrats love you and want to 'help' you.")

As far as the white young people mentioned above are concerned, the chaos, filth, excrement and other detritus on public streets or at many subsidized housing sites seems, for some unfathomable reason, to be part and parcel of most "progressive" run cities.

None of these people manage to find themselves mentioned in any of the Democrats' dialogue when discussing subjects such as Ben Carson's proposal, yet they do constitute a considerable number of the people involved.

PeterS

If you read further rent would go from $50 to $150 or three times what they were paying. The question begged is how is paying more in rent a means to escape poverty?

archie bunker Loc: Texas

If an able bodied person can't contrive a way to earn $150.00 a month, they should be shot for being useless to society.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Harkens back to the days of vagrancy laws...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

My apologies...
Have been unable to find that information in the provided link...
Assuming it is true I find myself in agreement with the gentleman posting bellow your reply... In sentiment if not exactly how I word it...

archie bunker Loc: Texas

If you are referring to me, maybe shooting them is a little extreme, but I'm a firm believer in earning your keep. Maybe their parents should be shot for not teaching them to work for what they want.
Quick story.
One of the kids down the road wanted a custom made breast collar, and bridle for his horse, but didn't need it. His dad gave him 10 bucks to get him started, and told him to go earn the rest if he really wanted it that bad.
Well, he knocked on our door asking for work, and put him to work we did. If I remember right, he was 9, or 10 at the time, and didn't have any quit in him. At times, I actually felt bad for him because my wife would have to go out, and d**g him in out of the heat to drink some water, but we paid him the agreed upon price for the jobs at hand, and he gladly did them, and did them well. It took him no time to earn the money he needed to pay the saddle maker from us, and several other nieghbors.
I did my kids the same way, and now, all are self sufficient, successful, and happy.

Comment Loc: California

The welfare state is out of control. I went to get a free shot at the community center and there was a 100 Latino families in line. In the 50s there was not a homeless problem. WW11 was 6 years in the dust but the ended in 50. PSD was not an issue. Homelessness I never saw. I suggest welfare, food supplements are the problem.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

No sir... I truly agree with the sentiment...
(It being Christmas I may not have worded it that way , but I find no fault with the reasoning)
I was able to work odd jobs around the neighborhood before I had hair on my chin.. And under the table until I came of legal age after I had hair on my chin... It was how I earned spending money...
For my fifteenth birthday my mother gave me a resume and told me to start looking... I pitched in for the family with each paycheck... Just the way things were in our house...
To this day I work 7 day weeks and am always happy to lend a hand when needed (does a man's soul good to engage in honest labor - especially that cold beer at the end of the day)..
It's a sad fact that parents today spoil their children (not all I know , but far too many) and we as a society are reaping the "benefits" of that philosophy...
My hat off to you sir and your fine family... Hope your children carry on with their own...

Merry Christmas

archie bunker Loc: Texas

We are on the same page here. I've worked since I can remember, and will keep on till I can't anymore.
I think you would get a kick out of my son, who was the hard one to get there.
His son (my youngest grandson) is 10 months old, and I told him that my wife had bought him some foo foo teddy bear for Christmas. My son laughed, and asked Why? He'll have more fun with the box, and we'll have to keep the bear away from the dogs.
I've been accused of being pragmatic, but I think my son takes the cake! Lol!

I/we (my wife and I) are more blessed in this life than we deserve. That is for sure!
A Merry Christmas to you!

woodguru

Yeah, lets go to red states with unemployed coal towns and welfare populations and shoot them too...

archie bunker Loc: Texas

(F-bomb) You! Twist, and turn, as usual.