fredlott63

Without vision people die

We have murdered around 60 million of our own children. We abort as many babies in one year as men have died in every war this country has fought since the revolution. This has had an effect on the American conscience. We have elected a government that doesn’t care for the people that v**ed for it. We have allowed the government to legalize a******n and same sex marriage. Neither one has a future. What kind of future can we expect from k*****g children? How many future doctors, lawyers, and Indian chiefs have we k**led already? We have probably k**led the next Donald Trump. The time to concern yourself with providing for a child is before you have sex. It is silly to blame the child for being born. At one time, you were here, and whoever you had sex with was here. The child won’t be conceived until they have sex. There is a reason that when a society becomes matriarchal it disappears. Women have no vision for the future. Women are emotional and make emotional decisions. Actions have consequences. The government should prioritize its actions to produce desired results.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

VERY strong opinion...
Interesting premise...

JW

We have undoubtedly aborted some future greatness but just as surely, terrorists and murderers, child abusers and soulless evils have been done away with as well.

The last thing we need is the government prescribing the paths of our lives. People make mistakes and can do foolish things but when one person does such, very few are impacted. When a government directs a nation to commit the same kind of foolishness or evil, millions pay the price for a certainty. What we need is a mature understanding of our mutual freedom to live as we choose and full acceptance of the personal responsibility that comes with it.

Actions and behaviors that have no future will eliminate themselves. They don't require our help to eliminate them... or to sustain them.

PLizarraga

Wow. I agreed with a great deal of it. Until I reached the part about women. "Harumph", say I. Women have no vision for the future, are emotional and make emotional decisions? Matriarchal societies dissappear? REALLY? In case you haven't noticed, ALL societies tend to disappear, after a certain length of time. Explain better your statements that women are emotional and make emotional decisions - are you implying here that feminine decisions to have a******ns are, "emotional" decisions? As what, opposed to male-made, totally analytic decisions? (Like the one he made when he chose NOT to practice safe sex and NOT to wear a condom, thus preventing an unwanted/un-planned for pregnancy)? I suppose your statements to infer that it no doubt is the woman's fault for getting pregnant in these situations? Because she no doubt made an, "emotional" decision to have unprotected sex, perhaps, swept away by his charismatic charm and irresistible sexual magnetism? Let's be honest. It takes two to tango, always has. With a******n numbers as they are, no one can deny that a******n is being utilized predominantly as a form of, "after-the-fact" birth control. Or, better stated as, "damage control." National statistics show that an extremely vast majority of a******ns are taken by women aged 18-35, with extremely few younger than 18, and also, suprisingly low numbers in women over 35...a time when age and risk factors would suggest that this age bracket might in fact, be higher in seeking a******ns. Not so. Why the significantly higher numbers in the 18-35 years old brackets, during peak reproductive years of mature teens and adult women? I am a 60 year old female. When I was 18, (1976 era), I was married with two children, 14 months apart. At that time, much controversy was afoot over the fact that girls as young as 12 years old could go to Planned Parenthood, request and be prescribed and be put on, birth control pills, without their patents' consent or knowledge. Same with being given an a******n. My question isthis: At what point did American women CHANGE their focus from PREVENTATIVE PREGNANCY, i.e.; birth control, to total lack of responsibility or planning, precaution being thrown to the wind, and an, "Uh-oh, I'd like to get rid of this, "inconvenient aftermath of my selfishly-irresponsible and unprotected coitus please"! Perhaps about the time some i***t, (obviously someone with absolutely NO medical background), came up with the "grab this as a liferope of justification" line ..."Right to my own body" garbage. And I refer to it this way, simply because every champion of womanhood who ever clings to this jargon, completely fails to also champion all the females in utero, whose rights to life, to justice, to continue their individual life cycle already established, is TOTALLY DENIED, deemed inconsequential, and of no merit, when compared to mom's (and I do cringe to call these women that, but whether they like to admit it or not, mothers they are, if even only for so short a period. More appropriately, murderous mothers. Don't like hearing that? Too bad. I've been there, done that - I know, sadly, whereof I speak). At the crux of the initial Roe vs. Wade argument, was the point of, "VIABILITY". The point at which life could be sustained, outside of the womb, without artificial means of support. In just shy of fifty years since that landmark legal decision, (and please note: I said, "legal". Not medical, not moral. There's a difference), the unbelievable advances in medical technology during this almost half a century, has reduced the point of, "viability", to almost nothing. At the front end, in vitro fertilization, cyrogenically frozen embryos, implantation, surrogacy, you name it, there is barely a window that by today's standards, would hold up to that critical, landmark-decision-making criteria in today's realm of medical technology and innovation. "Woe be unto Ye", should our Supreme Court have this issue placed before it for review, that standard don't hold. And how grossly hypocritical is it of our society to use viability as a standard in the first place, especially for terminating pregnancies, who have years of, "quality of life" ahead of them, when we turn around and implement a HUGE double standard by placing our infirm, our elderly, on tons of life-sustaining dialysis, pumps, pacemakers, bypasses, respirators, even oxygen at home, all means of sustaining the lives of people, (outside the womb, I might add), who would otherwise, NOT BE VIABLE without such artificial means if support! So, what, euthanasia is next then? If so, where does society draw the line on whose lives are worth investing in, and WHO should decide this?
By the way, my one and only grandson was born at 20 weeks. That's five months, for you moronsvwho keep telling me it is not a baby, not human yet, etc. He weighed just over two pounds is all, but breathed on his own just fine, no hylaine membrane disease, no t***sfusions, no jaundice, tiny but perfectly beaming, grunnibg from ear to ear, very happy to be here, thsnk you. And I, for one, have no doubt that he was a human form quite sinevtime BEFORE his very premature birth, at twenty weeks. He didn't just, "Zap"! become human in one instant, seconds before his birth. But he DID sap, become one, the moment he was conceived. Born with two grinning simplest...a BABY!

Ezra Dean Tallry, five months gestation & born!

PeterS

I am reading a book about the 1700's and in it was an early recipe on how to abort a fetus. A******n has been with us for centuries yet when we put a number to it we are mortified. There are over a million Plan-B sold every year so if you really want to s**t your pants then add that into your equation. As for same-sex marriage, why do you care how two people conduct their lives? Why don't you stop being so emotional and learn to live and let live? Don't you trust in your god? If you do then don't you think he can take care of a few homo's and a******ns? And after all, 25% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. So even god gets into the a******n act. If a******n is really your thing then why don't you calculate how many pregnancies there each year then multiply it by .25 and then run it out for a few thousand years. YOUR GOD had k**led far more little babies than women ever have...

fredlott63

You are nuts. God doesn't k**l children.

MarvinSussman

Isn't it strange: that the people most concerned with a******n are most often the same people who oppose birth control and federally-financed free nurseries and free health care and free trade schools and universities and spending on infrastructure that will provide good construction jobs and full employment for would-be fathers? A******n is caused by lack of money! Unless it happens to a rich conservative woman who can fly to Sweden!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Disagree...
A******n is not caused by a lack of money..
It is caused by a lack of personal responsibility... With all of the various forms of birth control available , not to mention the surefire proven effectiveness of abstainance , it is inconceivable that an individual is forced into a******n via economic inadequacy...
Except when deemed medically necessary (my prayers for those individuals who have faced such a situation) or in the cases of rape or incest (my prayers for those individuals as well) a******n can (almost always) be traced back to a lack of common sense...

Free free free... Why is it we (or at least I) frequently hear about rich parents raising entitled brats... Free does not develop a sense of moral character... On the other hand there are countless stories of hardworking, sacrificing people who have beat the odds and made something of their lives...

I agree that spending on infrastructure is needed... But not because of a******n...
Men should work to provide for their families and if unable should abstain from procreation (my opinion)...
Sex is neither a right nor a freedom , it is a privilege that comes with enormous responsibility...

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Too bad your mom didn't utilize a******n..

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Most all a******ns are for convenience.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Because you folks don't practice what you preach why because you all haven't learned to live and let live which make you all hypocrites !

You all demand that everyone must cater to your whims !

So instead of you all learning to live and let live you all demand folks that don't want to bow to your lifestyle be hauled into court and be forced to do so !

Again you all are hypocrites !

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

So here we have another I want everything free just give me give me give me so who pays and pays and pays for all the free stuff ?

pafret Loc: Northeast

A******n is an evil that impacts each and every one of us. "Child abusers and soulless evils" are not a necessary adjunct to human life. The resources dumped into a******n mills of the Planned no Parenthood organization could be used to improve the lot of those citizens who are predominantly using those soul-k*****g services.

Wonttakeitanymore

I don’t remember same sex being mentioned peter! Did I miss something? Gay has nothing to do with this argument except for the fact that they are not condoned by God and cannot procreate, therefore a mute point!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Its irresponsibility, period...Some HealthClinics provide condoms and birth control right along with healthcare, yet, those same people don’t take responsibility of their actions using a******n as their choice later.. They simply do not care...

We provide many tools from sex education forward yet it makes little difference.. I’m sure it gets through to some but not near enough...

Someone here said its a money issue??? Having money or not does not change the rage of passion in the moment.. It just enables one to get that a******n quicker than the one that has to come up with it...

Was a time society frowned upon divorce and pregnancy out of wedlock~~ now, no concern for either.. We have enabled a society of no moral compass and it reeks havoc on us now..Where there is no society soon enough there is no nation...